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maverickthree

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Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« on: November 13, 2002, 09:01:17 pm »

     Just conducting a personal survey of those FS members
and non-members who desire to relocate at the present time. Please indicate what area of the country you're pre-
sently located in and where you desire to go. Also you're
reason for wanting to relocate at this time. Inquiring minds
want to know!!
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2002, 04:16:58 pm »

From Pennsylvania to Wyoming

I have stated the reason in other threads: Federal jurisdiction is at a minimum where there is not contiguous border with another nation, or with the seacost. That precludes treaty or maritime jurisdiction over things like drugs.
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2002, 06:04:44 pm »

I live in TN.  The largest city in my state is D.  However, over 55% of the people outside of that city are R or other.  Because Memphis is so big the entire state is D (in state politics, Gov, both houses, and S. Court).  The only D state near TN is D for the exact same reason.  GA is a D state because Atlanta is a D city.  

The Rinos and D that control TN just raised 3 sales taxes (including the state sales tax by 15%) and 1 corporate tax.  The politicans are also going to raise taxes again within a couple of years.  TN has statewide socialized med. in the form of Tenncare, which is destroying the state.  1/8-1/4 of TN is on Tenncare.

I want to leave TN because I want to leave this D state for one with more Libertarians, R, lower taxes (even though TN is in the bottom 5 in the nation WY and AK still have lower taxes), more gun freedom, and cheaper land.  I want to be in a state that is very close to large cities but actually has no large cities.  Large cities are centers for authoritarians and socialists.  Often times, R become centrists or authoritarian in large cities.  Looks at the federal R from AZ, NJ, and NY, all three states have very large urban centers.  

WY, MT, ID, and SD fit this bill.

I fell that ID has too large a population and is growing far to rapidly, though.  MT is a somewhat far drive from large cities.  Both MT and ID have higher taxes then TN, though.  SD and MT are a little too cold and have quite strong D or Greens.  SD is also very windy, and someone thought WY was windy.

I also like NH but it has a large population, is growing quickly, near all liberal states, kind of cold, and has high land and corporate taxes.

Because WY is near the bottom in taxes, has the cheapest land, is the 3rd warmest of all 10 FSP choices (I'm from TN), is very close to several good sized cities and a couple large cities, has no large liberal centers (cities), strong Libertarian and R, and better gun laws then TN (a lot of states do) it fits me best.

Also, I talked with by brother and he wants to move with me and we both want to have a personal ranch within 30min from Cheyenne.
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2002, 01:22:21 am »

I currently live behind the ZionCurtain here in Utah and already have a move approved with my wife to Wyoming which is my first choice for the FSP.
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2002, 07:22:52 am »

My baggages are packed, all I need to do is to load the truck and fill up the tank.

Just need to get a map, but before I can get a map, need to know what direction I will be headed.  ???

I lean towards NH and Idaho.

FreedomRoad wrote:  "Also, I talked with by brother and he wants to move with me and we both want to have a personal ranch within 30min from Cheyenne."

I have been on the road north of Cheyenne, aint nothing there except hugh, large, great ole big farms, covered as far as one could see with Sun Flowers.  :)
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2002, 01:54:20 pm »


FreedomRoad wrote:  "Also, I talked with by brother and he wants to move with me and we both want to have a personal ranch within 30min from Cheyenne."

I have been on the road north of Cheyenne, aint nothing there except hugh, large, great ole big farms, covered as far as one could see with Sun Flowers.  :)


That sounds good, also.  I have looked at the Carpenter and Burns areas (both east of Chyenne) and both have lots of inexpensive land for sale.
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2002, 10:28:08 pm »

There is some sweet land out at Wheatland Reservoir. Real cheap lake front property. 20 years from now it would be worth a hell of alot more than they are selling it for.
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2002, 09:37:59 pm »

I'm not quite ready to move NOW.  Soon though, in about eighteen months (Retirement).  I have just GOT to get out of here! "Here" being Hawaii.  Been here 25 years now and, yes I love Hawaii - no place like it - Highest cost of living and highest per-capita tax burden of any state in the union and unbearably leftist politically.  Add to that absolutely NO HOPE of ever owning more than a few square feet of land and a lifetime mortgage to pay on while living in one of the highest pop density areas in the world and, well I think you can get the picture.  The weather IS nice though  8)

So before I found out about FSP I went looking for someplace with:

Lower cost of living
Low population Density
Available land without onerous zoning restrictions
Old fashioned country living
Neighbors with good fences*

Found the right place at the right price.  Check it out:

http://groups.msn.com/SVLealeaandCrew/vermont.msnw

Bought it for less than the price of a new pick-up truck.

And then I found out about FSP. With luck, the vote will go to NH, ME or VT.  

BTW, does anyone know anything about similar land available in the Western states like WY? (At under $1K per acre)

*  I think it was Robert Frost..."Good fences make good neighbors"
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Re:Survey--those who want to move somewhere NOW.
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2002, 10:16:17 pm »

I'm a grad student in NH now, but once I graduate some time next year I will be ready to move.  Unfortunately, the economy is in a Fed-induced bust, and most of the jobs for electrical engineers of my field are working on missile systems.  That I refuse to do.  I was originally planning to stay in NH for a few years with my wife, to get experience at a regular job and then move to wherever the FSP locates (should be Wyoming).  However, after doing a survey of what is available, I am open to moving anywhere in the country for a few years.  Ideally though, I would like to stay in NH or move to northern Colorado, one of the few places where there appears to be a healthy economy for electrical engineers.  Then I could scout out a more permanent place in Wyoming to live, and test out the feasibility of the Cheyenne / Fort Collins commute.  
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