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Dreepa

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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #375 on: June 14, 2005, 11:01:57 pm »

Done!

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=outrage;action=display;num=1118808081;start=0

Dada send me a list and those can be 'mine'
I normally hit the three above and I can add as many as you want me to.

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« Last Edit: June 17, 2005, 05:30:48 pm by Dada Orwell »
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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #377 on: June 17, 2005, 09:07:50 pm »

The message below has gone out to the following forums...  hoping you can send it to yours too Dreep

http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=530602#post530602
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11552
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2389;start=0#lastPost
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10840#10840
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1596.0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1425435/posts
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=727127&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=28889#post28889
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4381
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31509
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=652581#652581
http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9406222#9406222

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New Hampshire family to defy school tax

From NHfree.com
Keene, N.H.; June 15 2005

38-year-old Kat Dillon isn't satisfied she's getting her money's worth from government schools.  In fact, she says she isn't getting anything from them at all.

"My child is homeschooled," says Dillon.  "She's never gone to public school and never will.  I don't get any use out of it, so it's wrong for them to make me pay for it."

To drive her point home, Dillon will appear at Keene City Hall on June 30 with a check for only a fraction of what the city says she and her family owe.

"The part that would have gone to public schools...we're keeping it.  It's our money."

After handing over her truncated check, Dillon will lead a protest outside city hall urging others to "recalculate" their taxes as well.  She says she has no idea whether her act of noncompliance will inspire anyone else to do the same but that her family will "do this alone if necessary."

Dillon is a longtime opponent of tax-funded schooling, which she considers "education prevention."  And she's no stranger to protest. On June 11 her husband Russell Kanning made national news when he chose arrest over compliance with TSA regulations at Manchester Airport.  And it was Dillon who received the infamous nail buff from "Outlaw Manicurist" Mike Fisher.  In May, Fisher gave her an unlicensed manicure in front of the state licensing board and also went to jail for it.   

The soft-spoken computer programmer says she recognizes her act of civil disobedience will probably trigger retaliation, possibly even the loss of her home.  "But," she says, "it's the right thing to do."

Summary:

What: Civil disobedience against school property tax
How:  By handing over a check that does not include the "school portion" of the tax, then leading a protest.
Why:   "It's my money!"
Where: Keene City Hall: 3 Washington St. (at the traffic circle), Keene, NH.
When:  10:00 A.M. Thursday, June 30, 2005.
Who:  Kat Dillon, supporters from NHfree.com, whoever wants to join us.
Contacts:  See NHfree.com
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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #378 on: June 18, 2005, 02:31:10 am »

On the spur of the moment, I may have gotten the bail amount wrong. But the response is still good.  :)

http://www.britishguns.net/cgi-bin/forums/rant-ot.pl?read=9136

This is an international forum of Lee-Enfield collectors (and collectors of other British weapons). Americans, Canuckians, Aussies, Kiwis, Zud Arrikaaners, and Brits all mingle there, so the responses must be considered in that light.

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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #379 on: June 18, 2005, 08:36:50 am »

Dreep can you add the following two forums to the four already on your list:

http://www.conservativepunk.com/forum/default.asp
http://pub104.ezboard.com/famericanconservativefrm1

And any others you find on your own and want to add.
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« Reply #380 on: June 18, 2005, 08:52:57 am »

Dreeep if you are up for it here are some more forums you could post these releases to; these are libertarian forums which have traffic exceeding 3 posts per day.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomforum2/   4 posts per day
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GLIL/  10 posts/day
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertarianissues/   7 messages a day

More libertarian forums listed at
http://www.earthmoms.com/directory/Society/Politics/Liberalism/Libertarianism/Chats_and_Forums 

And here are is another forum with much more traffic, but generic rather than libertarian:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/193769
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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #381 on: June 20, 2005, 09:00:16 pm »

Ok I am just back from vacation.
Tomorrow I will sign up for the ones above and start posting!
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« Reply #382 on: June 30, 2005, 04:02:52 pm »

Posted message below to the follwing web forums;

http://forum.protestwarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=9466045#9466045
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=685376#685376
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=539375#post539375
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=4520
http://boards.billmaher.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=us_politics&Number=735398&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=1758.0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1434239/posts
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11842#11842
http://www.politicscafe.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=2399
http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum//index.php?showtopic=11896
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32058

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NH: Free Stater behind anti-Souter land grab

Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater (www.FreeStateProject.org).  He's retaliating against Souter's support for eminent domain abuse in this weeks Kelo vs. New London ruling.

From the Concord Monitor:
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050629/REPOSITORY/506290321/1031

'Hotel' targets Souter's home 
Property rights advocates make protest personal 
By MEG HECKMAN
Monitor staff
June 29. 2005 8:00AM

A letter that emerged yesterday from the fax machine in the Weare Town Hall has thrust Supreme Court Justice David Souter's beloved farmhouse into a national debate over property rights.

Souter, a longtime Weare resident, joined in a court decision last week that allows governments to seize private property from one owner and turn it over to another if doing so would benefit a community. Now, an outraged Californian wants to test the ruling - by asking Weare's selectmen to let him replace Souter's farm with a posh hotel.

"A recent Supreme Court decision. . . . clears the way for this land to be taken," Logan Darrow Clements wrote in a letter faxed to town officials yesterday. "The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare."

The letter, which included Souter's street address, was posted on conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh's Web site yesterday afternoon, spurring concerns in town about the reclusive justice's safety and privacy.

Souter was attacked last year while jogging in his Washington, D.C. neighborhood, although the police there believe it was not related to his work in the court. While most locals here know where he lives, they respect the justice's desire for solitude. Yesterday, for example, town officials blacked out his address before sending a copy of a letter about the hotel project to the Monitor.

Souter couldn't be reached by phone yesterday and had not yet returned to Weare last evening, but a few police cruisers were parked on the edge of his property.

"It was a precaution, just being protective," said Lt. Mark Bodanza.
Clements is the CEO of Freestar Media, a Los Angeles-based outfit that fights "abusive" government through a Web site, a fledgling cable show and efforts like the one in Weare. Clements, who could not be reached yesterday, plans to move to New Hampshire soon as part of the Free State Project, a group that supports limiting government powers. Thousands of Free-Staters plan to move to New Hampshire in the next few years because of its small government, few taxes and "Live Free or Die" motto. (Other members of the project stressed that Clements's hotel plans are not affiliated with the group.)

Clements's request fascinated the staff at town hall, and Code Enforcement Officer Charles Meany said he passed the letter on to the board of selectmen.

"Am I taking this seriously? But of course," said Meany, who handles building requests. "In lieu of the recent Supreme Court decision, I would imagine that some people are pretty much upset. If it is their right to pursue this type of end, then by all means let the process begin. . . . I have to allow the law to take its course."

Clements dubbed his project the Lost Liberty Hotel, and says it will include a dining room called the Just Desserts Café and a museum focused on "the loss of freedom in America." And those Bible-leaving Gideons won't be welcome. Instead, Clements wants to tuck copies of Atlas Shrugged into the night stands, giving visitors a chance to read author Ayn Rand's individualistic tome.

Souter's two-story colonial, assessed at just more than $100,000, brought in $2,895 in property taxes last year. A hotel, especially one as unique as Clements's, would likely net the town a much greater tax payment - not to mention a potential tourism boom for local businesses.

By mid-afternoon yesterday, Meany had received two more letters about the project - one from a women in Houston, Texas vowing to visit Weare if the hotel were allowed and another from a man in McMurray, Pa. pledging financial support if town leaders choose to hand Souter's land over to Clements.

Both letter writers signaled their distain for the court's ruling in Kelo vs. City of New London.The case stems from a battle between a group of Connecticut homeowners and a city government that wants to boost tax revenue by replacing a neighborhood with an office complex. The majority opinion, written by Justice John Paul Stevens, said it was up to states, not the federal government, to craft regulations around property. Souter supported Stevens along with justices Anthony Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.

Weare's selectmen planned to review the letters at its meeting last night, and will decide how to proceed, said chairwoman Laura Buono.

"It was an interesting e-mail,"she said.

Even if the five-member board were to endorse Clements's project, zoning laws would have to be changed and the hotel would have to garner approval from the planning board. After that, the project would fall under Meany's watchful eye.

"The big thing is, you have to own the land before you deal with me," he said.




 
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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #383 on: June 30, 2005, 04:42:00 pm »

Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater

If he's a Free Stater, then I'm one happy camper!

But I don't see anything in the article that he is a Free Stater; just that he thinks
Free Staters might like to stay at his proposed hotel (count me in!!!)

Can someone check on this?
If he's not a Free Stater, I volunteer to do whatever sweet-talking it takes to get him on board! :)

-Denis

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Re: Other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #384 on: June 30, 2005, 04:51:57 pm »

Looks like the man trying to take over Supreme Court justice David Souter's New Hampshire home is a Free Stater

If he's a Free Stater, then I'm one happy camper!

But I don't see anything in the article that he is a Free Stater; just that he thinks
Free Staters might like to stay at his proposed hotel (count me in!!!)

Can someone check on this?
If he's not a Free Stater, I volunteer to do whatever sweet-talking it takes to get him on board! :)

-Denis


Most of the stories do say that he's a Free Stater; for example:

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06302005/maine/50206.htm
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« Reply #385 on: June 30, 2005, 05:02:17 pm »

Most of the stories do say that he's a Free Stater; for example:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06302005/maine/50206.htm

Groovy  8)
Thanks Jason!

Now I have just given myself an action item to:
a) find out the names and phone numbers of local TV station program managers here in Nashua, and
b) call them up, and ask them to carry "The Lexington League" (see http://www.freestarmedia.com/support.html)
c) do the same for Redwood City, the community in the imprisoned state of California that I recently fled  ;D
d) post that info here for others to use (hint, hint...)

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« Reply #386 on: July 01, 2005, 11:47:17 am »

Send these about the Tax Protest:

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp88483.html#88483
http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=142513#142513
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=418152#post418152
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1120235487;start=0
http://p089.ezboard.com/famericanconservativefrm1.showMessage?topicID=11172.topic

Most had an article about the Souter issue.  I posted on them mentioning that 5 justices but only the one in NH acted about because of the FSP. Most people really want him to lose his house.

Dada.. I have been crazy busy at work but I will start add to those other forums as well.
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« Reply #387 on: July 03, 2005, 09:57:00 pm »

Good work Dreepa your threads are really taking off!  I wish we had 5 more folks like you that would make us into a real media outlet!
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« Reply #388 on: July 04, 2005, 08:21:26 am »

I post to Slashdot pretty much every day; the high traffic of that site, and the strong Libertarian bent of many sefl-described Geeks makes it almost too easy.

Anyway, there was an article about the Columbine tragedy on Shashdot today, and I posted something that I hope resonates well with the Slashdot crowd and maybe points out how important these abstract concepts like "Freedom" are. Please feel free to moderate up or post replies....

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154740&cid=12979022

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« Reply #389 on: July 04, 2005, 03:01:45 pm »

I've posted the Souter story to the Extropians list, and a friend who is an engineer at Lockheed says that the engineering dept was in giggles all day over it. The engineering dept at Ruger was also similarly entertained.
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