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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2003, 08:42:06 am »

I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2003, 05:39:54 pm »

An FSP discussion has started on Marijuana.com .  I did not start this one.  Unfortunately, the initial post was not exactly accurate(although it was pro FSP).  The thread is getting some attention though.  Maybe we should chime in on this one(no one did on the GNN thread).  I will probably post there later tonight.  Here's the direct link to the thread:

http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?s=ea5d62e121921252afc32abe04e9a6c7&threadid=18079


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Note:  Actually, I've found that those GNN threads get bumped down really, really fast.  It's almost like a chat room.  >:(
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2003, 11:20:07 am »

I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
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I joined white nationalist forum and placed a message immediately after you put that link here and it still hasn't been posted by the moderator yet, and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.  

My opinion of them has sunk even lower than it already was, as the message of mine that was censored was actually quite respectful, even to the point of pandering to them, and they couldn't even handle that!  
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2003, 06:31:14 pm »

and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.

That was Steve, an FSP organizer who happens to be African-American as well.  They called him a "Negro" -- these people are just insane.  Really sick.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2003, 07:58:49 pm »

I actually went ahead and tried to post a message there.  It was a good message, I think, both debunking the "white tribalism" nonsense and gleefully setting forth our support for legal drugs, prostitution, and as many hardworking 3rd World immigrants as we can bring in.  But they moderate all posts from new registrants, so I'm sure it will never be posted.
Jason,
I joined white nationalist forum and placed a message immediately after you put that link here and it still hasn't been posted by the moderator yet, and probably never will since the moderator caddishly banned someone else who posted there yesterday.  

My opinion of them has sunk even lower than it already was, as the message of mine that was censored was actually quite respectful, even to the point of pandering to them, and they couldn't even handle that!  

Hi,

I'm a member of the Stormfront forum (but not a moderator).  How odd that I came across this thread.  Anyway, you should read the rules first - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/threadid4359.php - I think all your posts were moved into the "Opposing Views" forum.  If you are not a White Nationalist, then that is the only part of the forum you are allowed to post to.

Also, I'd suggest you actually read the facts behind White racialist beliefs, not just whatever crap you get from the mainstream media, ADL, and your 'sensitivity training' at work.  I do understand that some of the stuff associated with us, like the violent Turner Diaries is not very appealing.  If you want to read some better fiction about WN beliefs, try Ward Kendall's Hold Back This Day.

You'd be suprised at the number of Libertarians and former Libertarians who post and read Stormfront.  If you are interested in a debate about the validity of racism, go ahead and start one on the Opposing Views forum.  I'd suggest avoiding ad hominem tactics though.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2003, 08:48:04 pm »

Please note that per our FAQ, racial agitators are not welcome in the FSP.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2003, 03:19:10 pm »

An FSP discussion has started on www.ar15.com in the general discussion section here.

A discussion has also started on www.ak-47.net in the general discussion section here.

Both forums are obviously pro 2nd Amendment so they're our kind of people.  I've noticed several self declared libertarians there as well.  The threads on www.ar15.com get bumped down pretty fast so it would be great if some of you could register and post (at the very least, those of you who own guns).  Both of these forums get a lot of traffic.   There are usually about 300 people signed on whenever I check (that's why the threads get bumped down so fast).  I think you have to register to view the forums at www.ar15.com , but that's no big deal.  Forums are great free advertising and its easy.  It's probably a good idea to participate in other threads as well so you don't look like shills, but that's easy too.  Get involved people ! :)


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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2003, 06:07:44 pm »

Ever heard of the State of Jefferson?  What a name!

Last summer at the Fresno County Fair (California), I saw several references to the State of Jefferson, such as SOJ 4-H club, SOJ Future-Farmers of America, and so forth.  Today on a local farm report on TV that I watch as part of my work, they interviewed a horseradish farmer who simply stated that he was from the "State of Jefferson".  This finally piqued my curiosity, I just had to check it out.  There is a real secessionist movement that was begun in the 1940's and lately the movement is reviving with somewhat of a small-government libertarian type of flavor.  There seem to be hundreds of followers and some serious activists and is a well-known part of the history in much of rural Northern California and Southern Oregon.

Behold Jefferson, the 51st state!  
www.jeffersonstate.com

It is tempting to waste time thinking about the prospect of this one for the FSP, 1.3 million people in the largest area considered and something more like the population of Alaska or Vermont in the most die-hard regions.  Plus nice weather, lots of natural resources, access to the coast and the place where most of the freedom-oriented people in California and Oregon live.  Well, anyways,  I wish them the best of success . . .
at any rate it is definitely a vibrant place to recruit more FSP members.  I might just go up there one of these days and visit some family on my wife's side that I have yet to meet and check it all out.

Anyways, enough introductions, the link to the message board follows here:
 http://members5.boardhost.com/jeffstate/, you don't even have to register except give your e-mail to post a message.  (There has been some discussion already about the Free State Project there.  I posted another link to here on the board today).

And please help welcome any SOJ people to the FSP!
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2003, 11:48:50 am »

Slightly off topic...  :o

The problem, of course, is that it's MUCH harder to create a new state than work within an existing one.  But for those interested in the "New state" concept, see also Rob Chase's vision for another new PNW state:

http://www.columbiafreestate.org
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2003, 12:55:15 pm »

Best wishes tomorrow in presenting the FSP to residents of the 'free state of Columbia', Elizabeth!

Meanwhile, I'll try to contact a few Libertarian leaders in the near-by proposed 'state of Jefferson'.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2003, 05:39:43 pm »

Racer (and anyone else trying to get folks to post in non-FSP forums):

Now that we have a decent number of volunteers starting to sound off over on the volunteer prefs thread, what you guys might want to do is this:  Go through the thread and find folks who have listed an interest in writing, e-mailing, etc.   Especially those who also have an interest in the topics being discussed on the external forum in question.  Ask some of them individually if they would be willing to post to that external forum.  

The volunteer prefs is still there at

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1471&start=0
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2003, 11:37:13 pm »

http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=freedom;action=display;num=1027918594

Some good thoughts, maybe even new members.  Way to go Elizabeth!  However, there was some talk of signing the moral contract to join the FSP and then not really moving.  That is serious stuff.  Maybe you could tell them how important the moral contract is to a free society?  I know they are market anar. and so they should understand that a moral contract is as important is something can be, but one of them...
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2003, 04:36:23 pm »

There was a shortish thread of the FSP over on The High Road - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3706&highlight=free+state+project

The FSP does come up in other related discussions there a fair amount, as well.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2003, 02:14:46 pm »

I (slushweasel) have been involved in a thread on ak-47.net for a few days.

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116244
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