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RidleyReport

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Other forums discussing FSP
« on: November 10, 2002, 06:19:20 am »

This thread links to other message boards that are discussing us.   I and others build little press releases and send them to a dozen or so major mesage boards, triggering debate and recruitment.  We also send them to media outlets.  You can help us widen the coverage!

Just head to the end of this thread; there you will see messages we are posting to other forums and links to those forums.   Just copy the messages and post them to web forums or other media of your choice.  Make sure to use forums that have a lot of recent activity or it won't be worth your while.

If you start a thread on another web forum, please post a link to it here so we can see you in action!

This is a very effective way we can "be the media," get the word out about our project and imbed in the minds of the public the idea that New Hampshire has more freedoms and freedom fighters (per capita) than any other state.

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Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2002, 01:53:52 am »

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Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2002, 10:32:52 pm »

So let's setup a time that people can go and chat!  I go to Otosan's dalnet.

So what time can/do people go there?
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Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2002, 06:19:49 pm »

More links:

Slashdot discussed us in Octover:
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/21/1325228.shtml

Tech Report also did the same:
http://www.tech-report.com/news_reply.x/4182/5/  

In both cases the discussion appears to be over, but these are great places to unscientifically guage public reaction.
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Re:Links to other forums discussing FSP
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2002, 09:46:04 am »

I would like to request a persistant link to this thread from our main site.   That will help funnel more FSP voices to the external debate going on about us.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2002, 10:57:01 am »

We just finished a discussion of FSP on the Marlin Firearms forum:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/001252.html

Predictably, some in this mostly-conservative bunch had a problem with ending drug prohibition and a couple got in a snit about secession. I'm starting to think we need to de-emphasize the secession aspect somewhat.

Funny about how people are. I had a conversation with a politician a while back, where I asked him why politicians are so mealy-mouthed, never coming out and saying anything. He told me that if you had 10 positions and came out and said what they were forthrightly, and a given voter agreed with 9 of them, that he'd only remember the one he disagreed with you on! If all voters did the same thing, he would be sunk! So that's why the only positions they come out in favor of are ones that are carefully shown to have a healthy majority of support.

That concept was demonstrated in the above thread. Amazing that these guys would fixate on drugs and secession, when all the time in this same forum they complain about taxes and government thugs and saying government "can have their guns when they pry them from their cold, dead hands". But there it is. There seems to be a suspicious side of human nature, to look for the worst in a political program. I suppose that is not too unreasonable! ;)
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2002, 11:59:54 am »

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He told me that if you had 10 positions and came out and said what they were forthrightly, and a given voter agreed with 9 of them, that he'd only remember the one he disagreed with you on!
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Amazing that these guys would fixate on drugs and secession, when all the time in this same forum they complain about taxes and government thugs and saying government "can have their guns when they pry them from their cold, dead hands". But there it is.
Libertarians are like that: they can be 99% in agreement, but focus on that remaining 1%.  It's the principle that matters to them, not the measurable result.  The Free State Project cares about results.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2002, 12:06:47 pm »

I don't know where people get off on this "secession" thing.  The word isn't mentioned on our website, except in the FAQ, where we say we're not secessionist. ???
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2002, 02:10:05 pm »

When I go to the MSN home page and put Free State Project in the search engine ... the web site listed for the FSP has a brief description that says in part  "...and eventually secede from the United States".
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2002, 10:23:50 pm »

Eww, he's right... it's the number one link...


Was that an earlier revision of the FSP or something?
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2002, 12:04:13 pm »

No, that's their own interpretation I guess.  I sent them an email a while back noting the error, but I guess they never changed it.  But who uses MSN search anymore?  Google's by far the best. ;)
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2002, 03:22:30 pm »

The FSP was discussed on e-thepeople.org earlier this year, but the discussion is still open for new comments.  The site is pretty balanced between liberals and conservatives, with a decent percentage of libertarians thrown in.

http://www.e-thepeople.org/a-national/article/10057/view

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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2002, 09:27:14 pm »

Since my personal email is MSN/Hotmail ... I use MSN search frequently. I doubt I am alone. In fact I never heard of google until a couple of months ago, and do admit it is good.

I was simply reporting an observation. And since I really don't have an in-depth interest in computers (and there are many like me) ... I use computers for the basics of my needs....when somebody makes a comment like this I tune out and turn off. Got no time in my life for  snots.

There is an arrogance with this movement at times that is a turn-off. If the arguement about voting does not chase me away from here, then a few more "looking down your nose"
remarks like this ... certainly will. If I had this attitude when you showed up in my hospital emergency room, would my emergency room be your "first choice" the next time?

As an individualist, I have many choices when it comes to liberty.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2002, 10:04:00 pm »

My comment was not in any way intended to be snotty; I do not see how it could have possibly conveyed that impression, and I apologize for doing so.
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Re:Links to non-FSP forums discussing FSP
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2002, 08:29:25 pm »

Guys, please, this thread is supposed to be a list of links to external forums discussing us.   The more we post off-topic here the longer it will take folks to sort though the thread and find the links.   BTW I would like to request a link to this thread somewhere on our main site. ...maybe call it "External Forums discussing the FSP" or something.
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