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bookish_lass

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Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« on: July 26, 2004, 07:48:53 am »

OMG, this is the best one I've heard yet:

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The primary advantage of socialist education, we are told, is socialization. The ability to sniff the behinds of those around you, and ascertain your position in the pack, your place in the pecking order.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/smedley1.html

Kat, sick of having the socialization issue thrown in my face.
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2004, 08:21:30 am »

Thanks for posting that Kat.  I plan to homeschool (and I plan to have kids ;) ) and it's nice to be reminded sometimes of the importance of NOT handing your children over to people you don't even trust with your money.
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2004, 09:24:17 am »

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...Imagine a commodity of so little value that you can't even give it away; recipients must be forced to partake...

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Thanks for the link
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 09:56:27 pm »

Thanks for the great article! The "S" word can really get to you after a while. I don't hear it as much now as I did 6 years ago, but I'm still amazed that people really think that this is an issue!

The funniest response (meant as a JOKE only) goes something like this:

Sure, I want my kids to have the same socialization as the kids in the government school. So, once a week, I take my kid into the bathroom, beat them up and steal their lunch money.

Is that the kind of socialization "they" think our poor homeschooled kids are missing out on? Most homeschoolers I know are like me - on the go, go, go! Involving our kids with many different people and situations. They learn to be comfortable in many different situations and can, generally speaking, even speak to adults in an intelligible fashion, a skill they might actually need when they want to enter the job force.

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2004, 12:07:23 am »

I think the best responce is the non sarcastic one.

That homeschoolers typically are more socialized. They have experiences and interactions with people of all different age groups instead of just one.

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2004, 07:09:39 pm »

Actually, I'd have to disagree with the main thread, here.

I think it's VERY important for my children to get their manner training from other kids of the 7-10 age range.

Further, it's also necessary for them to get the rules of justice and compassion from preschoolers!

Let's get with the program, we ALL KNOW that the best way for kids to learn these things is from OTHER KIDS!

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2004, 07:26:21 pm »

Eddie,
I have to disagree with you. I don't ever learning to respect others from my peers, (as I grew up). I learned that from my parents.
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2004, 07:47:05 pm »

I suspect Eddie's post was a wee bit heavy on the sarcasm.
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2004, 07:52:53 pm »

I suspect Eddie's post was a wee bit heavy on the sarcasm.

I can't believe I missed that. DUHHHHHH  "strikes himself severely about the head"
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2004, 04:07:01 am »

Is there standardized testing available for a wide variety of subjects that homeschoolers can use in order to pace their childrens' academic growth?
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2004, 04:17:16 pm »

Is there standardized testing available for a wide variety of subjects that homeschoolers can use in order to pace their childrens' academic growth?

Yes.

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 05:04:34 am »

The socialization issue is the main reason I disagree with homeschooling.  The responses in this thread thus far are borderline idiotic.  A homeshooled child has more socialization, you say.  Nonsense.  Socialization isn't about being amongst children the same age.  It's about communication, it's about real life situations, it's about LIFE.  Being locked down at home with no one to talk to but hobbit-like parents is not socialization.  I'm sorry to burst bubbles here, but someone needs to speak up and make sense.  That's me.  I find this homeschooling issue in your forums one in which if you keep repeating your nonsense, soon you all believe it.  Wake up.  Let your kids experience life!
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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2004, 06:00:06 am »

Smart,
Have you ever met any homeschooled kids? If not you should. The ones that I have met over the years are generally way more socially advanced then average for their age.

I risk melding threads here, but I have a hard time imagining a homeschooled kid riding around in a car on blasting a 3000watt stereo. Just my take.

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2004, 06:01:07 am »

smartguy,

You are mistaken in your belief that we lock our children up in isolation all day.  The homeschoolers I know attend classes with other homeschoolers, are very active in clubs etc., volunteer in the community, play with children in their neighborhoods.  The difference is that they spend a greater proportion of their time with adults who set a better example for behavior than other children do.  They are also not forced to be locked down with abusive children for 8 hours a day.

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Re:Great reply to the 'socialization' issue
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2004, 06:59:54 am »

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Wake up.  Let your kids experience life!

I'm not homeschooling my children but if they were homeschooled, they'd have no lack of associations with other children.  They have cousins that stay over regularly and children in the neighborhood to play with.

I don't believe public schools are exactly "experiencing life".  When the kids are outside, half the time they're formed up into lines and go through the same routine daily.  In the classroom they have assigned seats and have to ask permission to go to the restroom.  If I wanted my children to join the military later then, yes, maybe public schools are a good way to start out but for just growing up and experiencing life, they can do that fine without needing a public school to show them how.
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