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Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« on: March 18, 2004, 04:48:01 pm »


Does anyone know what the crime rates are in places like the UK and Australia where guns are banned?
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Re:Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2004, 05:28:52 pm »

Hmmm.... what I do know is that the only country where gun control has actually worked is Japan, because there were nearly no guns in the country at the time they instituted gun control. Countries that institute gun control when they have a large number of guns in the country always have large increases in violent crime for years afterward. So, gun control in and of itself doesn't cause violent crime, but gun control in a country with guns causes violent crime.
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Re:Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2004, 07:25:05 pm »

Hmmm.... what I do know is that the only country where gun control has actually worked is Japan, because there were nearly no guns in the country at the time they instituted gun control. Countries that institute gun control when they have a large number of guns in the country always have large increases in violent crime for years afterward. So, gun control in and of itself doesn't cause violent crime, but gun control in a country with guns causes violent crime.

Can you cite specific examples?
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Re:Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 07:30:44 pm »

I have heard that Japan's arms prohibition works so well because it is just a step away from a complete Police State. The fear runs rampant.
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Re:Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2004, 08:21:54 pm »

Alright, here's the data, a recent study by the Fraser Institute.  The report concludes:

"This brief review of gun laws shows that disarming the
public has not reduced criminal violence in any country
examined here
: not in Great Britain, not in Canada,
and not in Australia. In all cases, disarming the public
has been ineffective, expensive, and often counter productive.
In all cases, the means have involved setting
up expensive bureaucracies that produce no noticeable
improvement to public safety or have made the situation
worse. The results of this study are consistent with
other academic research, that most gun laws do not have
any measurable effect on crime..."


http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=pb&id=604
(link to full report (PDF) is at link at bottom of the page)

The only thing that these countries have achieved with gun control is the empowerment of the police state.
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Re:Empirical data on crime in countries where guns were banned
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 08:23:45 pm »

Alright, here's the data, a recent study by the Fraser Institute.  The report concludes:

"This brief review of gun laws shows that disarming the
public has not reduced criminal violence in any country
examined here
: not in Great Britain, not in Canada,
and not in Australia. In all cases, disarming the public
has been ineffective, expensive, and often counter productive.
In all cases, the means have involved setting
up expensive bureaucracies that produce no noticeable
improvement to public safety or have made the situation
worse. The results of this study are consistent with
other academic research, that most gun laws do not have
any measurable effect on crime..."


http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=pb&id=604
(link to full report (PDF) is at link at bottom of the page)

The only thing that these countries have achieved with gun control is the empowerment of the police state.

Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for!  :)
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