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Author Topic: NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson  (Read 13424 times)

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2004, 04:07:46 am »

"Govenor Benson... they're HEEEERE..."
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2004, 09:12:09 am »

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Let's piss off Benson and protest his Drug Czar thing. Come on pussies.

You're such a purist, mark. Why don't you want to be a team player??
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2004, 10:03:19 am »

While Marks a bit on the wild side.

I agree, we need to oppose this "Drug Czar" thing.

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2004, 02:17:50 pm »

Resisting this would actually be a good thing, despite our alliance with Benson (which is also a good thing).  It's clear that he's selling out to conservatism because of his affiliation with Bush/Cheney 04, but if we walk the tightrope he can come out of this announcement as real winners.

In a way, we should be thanking Benson, he's giving us someone to debate and harass.  Which brings me back to my assertion that once the czars are appointed we should bring in LEAP to debate them.

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2004, 11:09:57 am »

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2004, 04:13:51 pm »

Which brings me back to my assertion that once the czars are appointed we should bring in LEAP to debate them.



And immediately demand that they be put in charge of decriminalization studies.  :P
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2004, 06:32:57 pm »

"We passed tax legislation, thanks to Senators Gallus and Odell, to give grants to those making business investments in underseved industrial areas of the state. We are moving state government jobs that used to be in Concord to more northern areas, and tonight, I am announcing the opening of a DOR office in Gorham."

I don't like this either. They shouldn't be subsidizing businesses with government grants.

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2004, 06:40:41 pm »

I just finished a long conversation with a source in Concord, and the Drug Czar will actually be three people, not one, ala. McCaffrey. It is being established to look at new ways of looking at how to deal with, especially, the heroin problem in some parts of NH, and not as a law-enforcement-crackdown-committee.

Horrible name, though. Wish it had been called the "Narcotics Harm Reduction Committee" or something like that. :)

I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you folks. And I am. ;)

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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2004, 07:09:16 pm »

I should note that in Benson's address, his focus was on juvinile drug use, not adult drug use. I don't think anybody would argue that we are for drug legalization for ADULTS only.
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2004, 07:54:26 pm »

I should note that in Benson's address, his focus was on juvinile drug use, not adult drug use. I don't think anybody would argue that we are for drug legalization for ADULTS only.

That's silly. If a parent wants to let his or her kid try a little weed, that should be illegal? How about beer?
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2004, 08:07:36 pm »

While, you have a point, that is for THEM to decide, not the neighborhood hydroponicist, or the corner package store clerk, just like with beer. We need a wedge issue to get legalization through the door. Once it is an accepted part of the adult landscape, then we can deal with incrementalism.
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2004, 08:10:58 pm »

While, you have a point, that is for THEM to decide, not the neighborhood hydroponicist, or the corner package store clerk, just like with beer. We need a wedge issue to get legalization through the door. Once it is an accepted part of the adult landscape, then we can deal with incrementalism.

That makes sense to me.
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2004, 12:53:04 pm »

"New Mexico-style Drug Reform" sounds a lot less leftist than "marijuana legalization".  If Benson wanted to back it, he'd be following in the footsteps of a Republican governor.  What a way to unite everybody behind drug reform.
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2004, 12:20:02 am »

<<"New Mexico-style Drug Reform" sounds a lot less leftist than "marijuana legalization".  If Benson wanted to back it, he'd be following in the footsteps of a Republican governor.  What a way to unite everybody behind drug reform.>>

That's the best idea I've heard on this thread so far.
On the other hand picking a fight with our most valuable ally because he's off track on one out of ten issues ...that smaks of Losertarianism.

I wouldn't argue with a little friendly debate, though...  He is wrong in his drug position, no doubt about that.
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Re:NH State of the State Address, Jan. 29, 2004, by Governor Benson
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2004, 09:35:38 am »

Dada, I can't take full credit for the "New Mexico-style drug reform", Jim Maynard mention it to me during a discussion a few nights ago.

I agree that we'd be Losertarian for picking a fight with Benson, but I don't think this would exactly be picking a fight.  I don't think that Benson created these czars to be enforcers.  In fact I think that these czars are in more of a position to explore harm reduction than they are to be drug enforcers.
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