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Union Leader article (favorable)
« on: January 13, 2004, 08:17:43 am »

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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2004, 04:41:31 pm »

ROFL! Great article...  ;D
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2004, 02:17:21 pm »

I just emailed to Union leader this below.
I think this is the oportunity for porkupines as well as NHLA to do something and help our fellow porcupine.
Richard will have his day in court Jan.22. Let' see if other porcupines already in NH will attend to support his case.


America – the land of the slaves and the hazard to the brave?
Recently I had the opportunity to visit business in Sanbornville NH – just north from Rochester.
KT Kristi Tool / Kristi Ordnance ( http://www.kristitool.com ) is today small, two persons operation, with great potential for growth.
What we can see today as small machine shop with just four machines, tomorrow it can be work place for hundreds of workers and annual multimillion dollars worth of production.
KT owner, Mr. Richard Celta proves to know the manufacturing and as we can see from his customers list, he knows how to perpetuate the business. What he lacks is experience in dealing with the city officials. As any independent businessman today in America, also he experienced effect of administration trying to control him and infringe on his rights.
Richard inherited his property and holds Allodial Title granted to his ancestors.
Lawfully claiming his rights he build on his property modern industrial building  next to another similar building of neighboring company. The area is as a matter of fact designated industrial park. KT began business operation and everything would be up to better future but; There is administration assuming ownership rights of property and of the people…
Prying eyes of administration spotted new business. Immediately administration assumed position of deciding if they want to grant to Richard Celta the privilege to work – zoning permit.
Logically, it seams, he should be applauded by the people in his town and county. What is happening instead, is vicious attack of town administration officials.
The history can be seen on web page  http://www.kristitool.com/private/
Administration decided to ignore property rights of the lawful owner and usurps them to itself. What else is the zoning, which was newer voted in by the local property owners any way? What means “permit”? –  it is a privilege to do something!  Owner of the property has the rights to do as he / she pleases. Others can receive from the owner a privilege to do specified things on such property. Administration assumes ownership of Richard Celta property and maybe it would be generous to grant him privilege of limited usage of it, if he asked and after paying the ransom called fee.
Richard is not asking permission to use his property the same way he is not asking permission to live.
As of today the battle is going on. Administration is beating Richard Celta into submission treating to throw him and his family (wife and child) out of their house and of the land.
What happened to New Hampshire motto “live free or die”? Is the place for that freedom idea, only on the registration plates? Did the people of New Hampshire forget about their inalienable rights to freedom life and pursuing of happiness? Are all this, just the bits of ancient history, irrelevant, forgotten and not learned in the schools any more?
In meanwhile Richard Celta is fighting his battle alone. He is not political activist, he does not know how to reach out, how to get help and attention of the others. This hero needs the help! Anybody who holds dare rights enumerated in Constitution should step in to Richard’s battle and stop ambition driven lawless actions of few rulers from administration who derive their power and money from usurping authority from the people bullying them around.
What we can see in Sanbornville NH is the example of tyranny, our Founding Fathers fought against.



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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2004, 11:12:14 pm »

I'm talking about people like my mom, who's never seen a Playboy and doesn't want to, who doesn't understand why people should complain about stuff that costs money that they don't want being out there. She says, "If you break into my house and open Screw magazine and staple it to the wall, I'm going to be angry. Until you do that, I have no problems. I don't want it. I also don't want a microwave. And the only danger I have is that you might buy me one for Christmas. But I tell you I don't want one and we're done. I don't want Playboy. I don't want a microwave. Why are these two issues different?"

 -  Penn Jilette's mom

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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2004, 09:35:30 pm »

yeah! I love Penn Jilette!!!!  is he still on that saturday show on MSNBC?  haven't been able to catch it or him for the last month...
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2004, 05:25:41 pm »

yeah! I love Penn Jilette!!!!  is he still on that saturday show on MSNBC?  haven't been able to catch it or him for the last month...


Not sure where he's been lately. I did enjoy his role as pundit on MSNBC though. Here's the last place I saw him advocating libertarian ideal: Bill of Rights Security Edition.



ps Penn's mom reference deals with "stuff that costs money" being a cue to the government to back off from interfering in the marketplace. People typically do the right thing and become very serious when stuff they do costs money, whether a ski resort town or machine shop.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 06:33:59 pm »

Penn and Teller rule.

They have been doing quite a bit of Libertarian advocacy, on their Showtime program:

"Penn and Teller's BULLSHIT!"
http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do?_requestid=125314

I will say that this show is THE BEST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF TELEVISION PROGRAMMING.

If every American saw this program, it would change the country :)

I recommend purchasing Season 1 when it hits DVD this spring, but if you'd like to watch them, visit your local Peer to Peer file sharing service.  I know http://suprnova.org has the whole season via BitTorrent.  This show definately deserves monetary support.

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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 06:41:25 pm »

Let's see if they want to hang out in New Hampshire for a week at the Porc Fest.  :D


Maybe pay them to perform? I'm sure the kids will love all the blood and gore.  ;D
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2004, 07:01:24 pm »

Mark-- They've already been asked and are not available for the Festival time period.  You are right though, they would be great to have appear.

As to where they are, Penn & Teller appear six nights a week at the Rio Hotel Casino in Las Vegas. They are into their second year there.
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 07:19:28 pm »

Yeah, Penn has said they refuse to fly due to Homeland Security at the airports and only do Vegas shows now.  :(
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2004, 11:13:47 am »

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They've already been asked and are not available for the Festival time period.

Does this mean they have also been invited to join the FSP?  It would be awesome to have them onboard.

I posted a message in their "What questions would you ask Penn & Teller? " forum, asking "What do you think about the Free State Project?"
http://showtime.infopop.net/1/OpenTopic?a=cfrm&s=5131954363&f=6311978706

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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2004, 09:27:05 pm »

Gotta be a member to read it.
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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2004, 05:42:07 pm »

Don't worry, no one has yet responded.

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Re:Union Leader article (favorable)
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2004, 10:53:23 am »

Ian,  I share your enthusiasm. P&T are well aware of the FSP. I have spoken with Penn a couple of times and given them printed FSP material. Whether or not they will sign up as "Friends" is undecided at this point. It is not realistic to expect them to move to NH (or anywhere) at this time.

By the way, they have their own message board on their website,

www.pennandteller.com/sincity/
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