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Bama Sam

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I have.....
« on: January 01, 2004, 12:54:08 pm »

some issues with some strains of logic on here. You see, I feel that everything that I posess is mine. (property, land, etc)
I believe that people that start businesses own them (grocery stores, etc.) Not the people that shop there. My wife is my only collective partner.

I just want everyone (the government and the non-working parasites) to get their hands out of my pockets. When the hands are out of my pockets, I will cheerfully give and help any who need it.

You can probably tell that I just got my last pay stub for the year.
$18k worth of armed robbery under the guise of "taxes and deductions".

I am not a communal type, but I help my neighbors and they help me.

This is the kind of guy that I am. My question is...Am I in the wrong forum here?
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Re:I have.....
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2004, 01:01:06 pm »

I (and probably most everyone here) agree with what you said Sam.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2004, 02:35:45 pm »

Bama Sam, I'm sure you'll find virtually everyone here is of like mind.  Don't hurt anyone else and don't mess with anyone else's property (that includes government).
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2004, 02:48:32 pm »

I'd say anyone who disagrees is in the wrong forum.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2004, 01:00:40 am »

I'd say anyone who disagrees is in the wrong forum.

Exactly.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2004, 01:02:13 am »

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some issues with some strains of logic on here. You see, I feel that everything that I posess is mine. (property, land, etc)

You are in the right place. What's mine is mine and what's yours is yours! Anyone who says otherwise is a thief!
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2004, 03:47:28 pm »

Bama Sam, are these strains of logic you have a problem with coming from the GeoLibs (BillG, for example)? If so, you can see from the previous replies that view is not representative of FSP members. I would say they are a very small minority of folks here. Though many of us disagree with their views regarding ownership and taxing of land, I do believe they agree with the rest of us on most issues. If you have any specific concerns, please post.

Diana
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2004, 04:17:04 pm »

Depends on what Bama Sam means by 'whats mine is mine'. Some people think owning something means the right to destroy it and spread the results all over everybody elses playpens. Even anarcho capitalists recognise the individual responsibility for negative externalities.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2004, 04:25:38 pm »

Some people think owning something means the right to destroy it and spread the results all over everybody elses playpens.

Mike, if someone thinks this way, then they don't believe that absolute ownership applies to everyone, b/c if they did, they couldn't put their stuff (destroyed or not) in anyone else's playpen without permission of the owner. I doubt Bama Sam thinks this way based on the whole post.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2004, 10:28:53 pm »

While there may be posts on these boards at time that make you scratch your head, remember, these posts are by individuals, not by the FSP. I just ignore the posts that are not in alignment with the FSP goals. Anyone can post anything here - whether or not it is agreeable to the FSP philosophy.

You ARE in the right place!
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Bama Sam

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Re:I have.....
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2004, 05:41:06 pm »

Man, I see every little statement parsed and dissected ad nauseum. I am starting to think that the FSP may be its' own worst enemy. I don't know who is in the FSP. I don't know how you get into the FSP. I thought that anyone on this board had already subscribed to the basic FSP platform.
I am not planning on moving to NH. Does that mean that I am not FSP? If anyone is not FSP, shouldn't the FSP'ers give us the boot?
I have read posts from some of the most pompous, blowhards that I have ever seen. Pin headed intellectuals was the term George Wallace used.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2004, 06:48:13 pm »

Bama Sam,
I agree with your views as stated - welcome.  You're welcome to be here if you find it interesting.  There are threads and topics that I don't find of interest, so I just don't read on.  Like all media, we can change the channel...
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2004, 01:52:32 am »

I am not planning on moving to NH. Does that mean that I am not FSP?


You should plan on helping some of us blow-hards.  :D
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2004, 12:20:11 pm »

     Welcome, but I must ask that you reconsider moving with the FSP. There are a few people with the FSP that I do not believe I would get along with. You seem like someone I would get along with (All the leadership also seem to be people I would get along with). I've had 32K extorted from my paycheck this year!
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2004, 02:31:50 am »

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Man, I see every little statement parsed and dissected ad nauseum.

It is called communication. And "ad nauseum" is elitist. You cold-hearted Leftists are always trying to hurt my brain...

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I am starting to think that the FSP may be its' own worst enemy.

What in Hell gives you that impression? Where is all of this coming from, anyways??

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I don't know who is in the FSP.

Evil, evil people...

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I don't know how you get into the FSP.

There is a main page. All it takes is a little effort.

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I thought that anyone on this board had already subscribed to the basic FSP platform.

Basically speaking, anyone can post on the Forum. Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Conservatives, Theocrats, Fascists {Left and Right, alike}, Nazis, White Supremacists, etc etc, have all visited the Forum. Most come and then quickly go, leaving the Libertarians and the Moderate Libertarians to talk among themselves. I fall into the former persuasion.

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I am not planning on moving to NH. Does that mean that I am not FSP?

No. Not only are you NOT the Free State Project, but you are not even a MEMBER of the Free State Project. Nor am I, for that matter- on either count- although I do intend to move to New Hampshire someday.
Why aren't you?

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If anyone is not FSP, shouldn't the FSP'ers give us the boot?

Read above. Also note that if this were done, the chances of recruitment would be greatly reduced.
As to whether your kind should be booted.. that is up to the actual owners of the Forum to decide. Personally, I wouldn't boot you, and I don't think they would either so far.. but you'd have to consult them. Do you want to be booted??

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I have read posts from some of the most pompous, blowhards that I have ever seen.

Am I one of them? You should get rid of the comma...

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Pin headed intellectuals was the term George Wallace used.

I don't think that you'll earn much respect here by citing the words of a White Supremacist/Segregationist. You certainly haven't with me. Maybe you will from Robert of Texas {Although I think that I scared him off}, and the now departed Fenris, but no one else.
To be honest with you, I cannot help but to be rather flattered whenever a redneck insults me. While their southern drawl and limited vocabulary is evidence enough of their intellectual inferiority, their "common man" insults pour even more water onto the already low fire.
Surely you are not one of those "Neo-Confederates", or "Flaggots", as Neal Boortz would say? If so, I'm not impressed, and would suggest that you grow up- especially being that you hail from Taxachusetts. HA.
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