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George Phillies

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LPNH State Convention
« on: November 02, 2003, 12:24:32 pm »

 :) Manchester, NH November 1, 2003

The LPNH had its annual state convention.  About half the attendees were Free State members--I spotted people from as far away from Florida.  The Governor of New Hampshire appeared as a guest, gave a speech, was presented by FSP members with a porcupine sock puppet waving an NH flag.  Relations between the FSP and LPNH members were excellent, but they were clearly two separate groups of people.  There was a detailed effort to  discuss a book or the like on NH for potential movers and issues they would like to understand.  

After the LPUS went into default on its payments to its state affiliates, the LPNH severed its ties with the National party, so that membership in the two groups is independent.  The LPNH is interested in doing serious politics, not in chatting about philosophy, quite different from some perceptions of LP groups elsewhere.  A poll of attendees showed that most of the LPNH attendees were current public officials or people who had previously run for office.  The State Chair emphasized that the state party's money goes for real politics, not party office buildings or salaried staff.

The two declared serious Libertarian Presidential candidates presented and took questions. :(  There is nothing seriously wrong with either of them.

George

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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2003, 01:21:49 pm »

It made the Nashua Telegraph and sounded like it went pretty well.

Here's a comment Governor Benson made on public education:

"...Benson also called for putting the passion back into education, in part by letting students get credit for educational experiences outside classrooms.

He characterized public education standards as inflexible, based on a model of learning everything inside four walls, 180 days a year, six hours a day.

Why do we make someone like my daughter, whos trying out for the Olympics, take gym class, too? he said, to vigorous applause.
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2003, 06:00:33 pm »

I think Nolan, and Badinarik should be chosen for president and vice presidential nomani for the LP.

Tracy
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2003, 09:54:57 am »

I think that this convention was the most exciting and well-run libertarian convention I have ever been to. I really want to put out a huge thank you to the LP of New Hampshire for making us feel so welcome and doing such a fantastic job.

   Meeting a bunch of other porcupines was just great. It really made me realize what we are working toward. Having this kind of quality people around that really want to make a difference is all by itself enough reason to move to New Hampshire. I was very impressed especially with the new leadership; Kelton, Doug and Amanda you guys were great. I know we are in good hands.

Let’s get that other 15k!

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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2003, 04:30:26 pm »

How many people were at the convention, roughly?
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2003, 04:32:30 pm »

I could really be off but I think it was around 70 to 90.
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2003, 05:10:48 pm »

I could really be off but I think it was around 70 to 90.

Don't know how many Porcs were there, but I counted 40 LPNH people who stayed in the ballroom for the candidate nominations and bylaws amendments in the LPNH Business Meeting. This doesn't count the porcs and the exhibitors from other groups. I'd say 90 is a good figure, though I heard that a few only stopped by on Friday, like Zack Bass, who I was hoping to meet. Did not see Chuck Geshlider, who also was going to appear.
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2003, 05:38:12 pm »

I believe the official count was 98 for dinner and 106 for lunch.
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2003, 05:44:43 pm »

I'm glad that the NH convention went well...I just could not get there for it.  I'd love to watch a video or two of the FSP related speakers at the convention.  Anyone able to post them here at the FSP site?
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2003, 05:46:37 pm »

Wow, that's great to hear Michelle. Just out of curiosity, what has been the average attendance in the past?

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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2003, 10:03:00 pm »

I hear that Gov. Benson said in his speech that he is working on legislation to improve homeschooling laws in NH.  Can anyone tell me more about what he said, or perhaps point me to where I can get more info about this?  I believe there were many people who intially signed up for the FSP, but opted out of New Hampshire because of the homeschooling laws.  This change in NH law, assuming Gov. Benson is able to get it passed, would perhaps allow us to bring these people back into the FSP.
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2003, 12:32:20 am »

My journal of the Convention:

Worked a double shift Friday, til 1:30 am, so I
could get Saturday off for the Convention. Drove
down mid-day, so I missed Governor Benson's
speech in the morning, but arrived at the
Highlander Conference Center in Manchester in
time to catch Gary Nolan's stump speech (he's
one of the two LP presidential candidates).

Benson's speech was apparently pretty good, as
he got lots of applause, laughs, and standing O's from the audience. He spoke about his Taxpayer Bill of Rights, which will have a state constitutional amendment limiting growth in state revinues to the rate of inflation and requiring a supermajority of the
legislature to approve any tax increases. He
spoke about his next initiative, to make it
easier for parents to homeschool and to give
parents school choice with the ability to
migrate their property tax dollars with their
child's school.

Gary Nolan is also a Free State Project member,
and will likely be moving here after the
election cycle is over. His speech was his
standard pitch with a few mods. He's a good
public speaker, so he got the audience out of
their seats occasionally.

I immediately ran into Amanda Phillips, Keith
Murphy, Hardy Macia and Bonnie Scott sitting at
a table with Adam Weiss, George Phillies, and a
fellow from Rep. Ron Paul's office. Everybody
was enthused as hell. Amanda is selling cute
porcupine puppets she has nicknamed "Stark" as
the FSP mascot. Get yours now, come now, come
early, buy often...

Made my rounds of the hall, seeing Tony Stelik
from Connecticut, who got a tour of Ruger's
plant in Newport last week from my father. Tony
will be moving his tool making business up here
to NH in a few months and is looking to do
business with Ruger. Saw George Reich,Jim Dumas
and Michelle Dumas, who promised to introduce me
to a person I was looking for. LPNH Chair John
Babiarz was happy to see me as was Vice-chair
John Barnes. Ken Blevins, now our US Senate
Candidate, was also glad to see me. Ken is a
real estate agent in Bow, just south of Concord,
so Porcs looking to move to that area should get
in touch with him.

After an afternoon break with refreshments,
there was a forum discussion led by a panel of
libertarians currently holding office in NH.
Discussion and questions ranged from how
individuals got elected to interesting things
they experienced while in office.

After the forum, the crowd split up. LPNH
members remained in the Ballroom for the LPNH
Business Meeting, while others went to the
Grenier Room, which housed exhibitor
presentations, for a meeting of Free State
Project members and a presentation to others. I
stayed in the LPNH meeting, where we nominated
candidates for national and state offices and
voted on a few amendments to the Party bylaws.

One of these amendments was to expand LPNH
membership to allow non-residents to join, so
that Free Staters elsewhere can now join the
LPNH and support its activities. This is an
extremely welcoming change that all Porcupines
should be very happy with.

A second amendment was in response to the walk-
in take-over of the Reform Party convention here
in NH several years ago by the Buchanan crowd,
and to the Howard Stern takeover of the NY LP in
2000 as well. In order to get elected to the
LPNH Executive Board, currently someone could
theoretically have walked into our convention
with 50 supporters Saturday and taken over the
party with walk-in sign ups.

With the vote this weekend, you now need to be
both a NH resident and an LPNH member in good
standing for 1 year to get elected to the Board.
This would not exclude enthusiastic activists
from getting involved and getting appointed
positions from the Board if they had less time
in state.

Similarly, to limit walk-in signups from aiding
someone unfairly, a third amendment was passed
to require individuals be members for at least
30 days and a current resident in order to be a
voting delegate at LPNH state conventions.

A few individuals had originally wanted to
require someone be a resident for 6 months, but
I successfully argued that this would be
incorrectly perceived as a barrier to entry to
FSP transplants, which is something we don't
want to do, Porcupines are all welcome in the
LPNH. My motion passed 15 to 12, and the current
resident and member for 30 days became the new
rule.

As for candidates, we elected Ken Blevins to be
our US Senate candidate. Ken has served in the
NH House, is a real estate agent in Bow, and is
very well informed about the sentiments of
residents state-wide.

We elected "None of the Above" to be our
gubernatorial candidate. So many party members
are happy with the work done by Governor Craig
Benson, who has been accused by the press of
being a closet Libertarian (not unwarranted),
and the fact that he was a registered
Independent until a year before he was elected,
makes so many pro-Benson that we saw no reason
to field a candidate to compete against him.

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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2003, 05:07:47 am »

<< So many party members
are happy with the work done by Governor Craig
Benson, who has been accused by the press of
being a closet Libertarian (not unwarranted),
and the fact that he was a registered
Independent until a year before he was elected,
makes so many pro-Benson that we saw no reason
to field a candidate to compete against him.>>

That is so awesome...is there any indication whether the NHLP might do the same in passive support of the 50 or 100 most libertarian members of the NH House?


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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2003, 09:10:40 pm »

Just how "libertarian" are they, now?
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Re:LPNH State Convention
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2003, 12:27:59 am »

Very Libertarian. BTW: Were you there, Morpheus? Do you actually know any of the attendees?
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