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Friday Jones

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Franco-American Community in NH
« on: October 09, 2003, 12:15:12 pm »

Can anyone tell me about the Franco-American community in New Hampshire?  I read that 1/3 of the state is of French descent, and 40% in Manchester.  I'm curious to know how many people really speak French, and if so, whether it's "pure" French, Quebecois French, or a dialect a la Louisiana.  Are there French radio stations, or public access French-language television stations?  How much can you pick up from Quebec in Manchester without cable or a satellite dish?  Do markets carry French foods like stinky cheese and canned duck thighs at a reasonable price?  I will move much sooner if saucisson sec is readily available.   ;D
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2003, 08:18:02 pm »

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Can anyone tell me about the Franco-American community in New Hampshire?

I've been reading a bit of New Hampshire history as preparation for the move.  The book I have says that due to local labor shortages many people moved to the Manchester area from Quebec to work in the textile mills in the mid-1800's.

You might want to try the

Franco-American Centre  
52 Concord Street
Manchester NH
Phone: (603) 669-4045
 
for more detailed information.

Good luck,
Dan
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2003, 06:47:38 pm »

Quebecois moved to many towns in NH that had mill labor needs: Lebanon, Claremont, Franklin, Newport, Manchester, Berlin, Concord, among others. In most parts of the state they assimilated over time, however Manchester and Berlin became so heavily french that many families still speak "french" at home, though I doubt that anyone from Paris would recognise it as such.
A quick look in  any phone book in the state will illustrate the heavy french influence. It has only impacted the accent in the far northern reaches of the state, however.
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2003, 07:11:37 pm »

You might want to try the

Franco-American Centre  
52 Concord Street
Manchester NH
Phone: (603) 669-4045

 :) Thanks, Dan!  I had tried searching on the Internet and hadn't found that organization.  Here is their website, for anyone else who is interested:  http://www.francoamericancentrenh.com/

I'll try writing to them for more info.
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2003, 06:16:23 am »

Are there any french language pro-liberty media or communities online? Perhaps that could be a activism or even tourism/business market to exploit?


ps I'm french canadian on my father's side so I find this information very interesting. Oui oui!
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2003, 04:40:19 pm »

West Manchester has a large Franco-American community. I can't thik of French media, but I remember even when I was a kid (I'm 35 now), the preist in church still gave the sermon in French. Doubly exciting for me, since I'm the only person in my family that doesn't speak it. :D

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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2003, 04:55:48 pm »

As an aside, if you think the task in NH is difficult, French Libertarians are now attempting to reverse the socialism there. Following a young dynamic Frenchwoman, Sabine Herold, some progress has been made this year. You can read about it, in French, at their website.

www.liberte-cherie.com
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2003, 10:54:37 pm »

I looked through www.liberte-cherie.com a little bit, and tried to translate as best I could.

It looks like they support the maditory 35 hour work week. That's not good. THose are violations of freedom of association and stuff.

Or am I not translating it correctly. (It was several years ago when I took French.)

Résultats du sondage :
La loi sur les 35 heures fait actuellement l'objet d'un débat. Aujourd'hui, faut-il selon vous... ?
Sondage commencé le 13 octobre 2003 - 632 réponses

... la supprimer définitivement

http://www.liberte-cherie.com/sondages.php?id=4

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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2003, 09:41:47 am »

It looks like they support the maditory 35 hour work week. That's not good. THose are violations of freedom of association and stuff.

Or am I not translating it correctly. (It was several years ago when I took French.)

Résultats du sondage :
La loi sur les 35 heures fait actuellement l'objet d'un débat. Aujourd'hui, faut-il selon vous... ?
Sondage commencé le 13 octobre 2003 - 632 réponses

... la supprimer définitivement

http://www.liberte-cherie.com/sondages.php?id=4

My French isn't the best either, but I believe this says the following:

Results of the survey:
The law on the 35 hour work-week was actually an object of debate.  Today, is it needed in your opinion?
Survey started Oct. 13 2003, 632 responses...

I'm sure Sabine needs all the help she can get.   :P
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2003, 09:23:49 pm »

Perhaps if the people working on FSP publicity could get that french website to write a french language article on the FSP this could help not only with support in europe but also in Quebec?
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2003, 05:22:56 pm »

... la supprimer définitivement
 58.8%
... l'assouplir davantage
 34.8%
... la conserver en l'état
 6.5%

These are the current results of the polls.

Can anybody translate that?

Tracy
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2003, 09:42:33 am »

... la supprimer définitivement
 58.8%
... l'assouplir davantage
 34.8%
... la conserver en l'état
 6.5%

These are the current results of the polls.

Can anybody translate that?

It says...

definitely cancel it:  58.8%
make it more flexible: 34.8%
keep it the way it is: 6.5%

I wonder what the people who voted "make it more flexible" had in mind?  The government restricts your workweek unless you say "please"?   ???
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2003, 01:47:38 am »

OK, so they are libertarian then.

That's good. Does anybody in the FSP know french very well? Perhaps somebody could write a press reliece for these people?

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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2003, 08:02:00 pm »

Can anyone tell me about the Franco-American community in New Hampshire?  I read that 1/3 of the state is of French descent, and 40% in Manchester.  I'm curious to know how many people really speak French, and if so, whether it's "pure" French, Quebecois French, or a dialect a la Louisiana.  Are there French radio stations, or public access French-language television stations?  How much can you pick up from Quebec in Manchester without cable or a satellite dish?  Do markets carry French foods like stinky cheese and canned duck thighs at a reasonable price?  I will move much sooner if saucisson sec is readily available.   ;D

I went to NH over Thanksgiving weekend and attempted to answer my own questions.  For those who are interested...

  • I didn't hear French spoken a single time
  • There is a French-language TV channel in Manchester.  It was 6, I believe.  I don't know if that's cable or broadcast.
  • forgot to check for French-language radio stations...d'oh!
  • I tried pretty hard to find French food for sale in markets and came up with nothing.  I looked up "charcuterie", "French" and "deli" in the yellow pages of the larger cities (Nashua, Manchester, Portsmouth) and didn't see anything promising.  I tried the "Beaulieu Market" in Manchester, but it was just your all-American corner store.  I tried a place called...argh, I will have to fill in the name later, I forget, which was listed in my travel guide as a country store selling cheese and dried meat.  It was a pretty cool place, but none of the food was French.


I really wanted to get to the French Culture Institute in Manchester but the timing didn't work out.  Hopefully next time I'll have longer than 2 1/2 days and can make a run up to Quebec, just to see what's close to the border.  Speaking of which, what is involved in crossing the Canadian border?  Do you need a passport?  I've never tried it.
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Re:Franco-American Community in NH
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2003, 12:05:01 pm »

Drivers license and proof of insurance is all I've ever needed while in a car. If you are a native born US citizen, or can pass for one, you don't have any problem. Otherwise, bring more documentation. If you bring kids, be sure you have their birth certificats or certs of adoption to prove they are yours.
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