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Tracy Saboe

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Re:What about, say, the FAA?
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2003, 03:40:25 am »

Several countries have already privatized their air-traffic control. In fact our air traffic control used to be private untill recently. Private systems have figured out ways to regulate all sorts of things. Their's no reason why private systems can't regulate air traffic control either.

One good thing that Bush has done (In fact the only thing in my mind) is repeal Clinton's executive order making air traffic control a federal business.

In New Zealand they privatized their air traffic control a long time ago, and it's cheeper, noncoersive, and works better, then the government system they used to have.

The only Federal agency that has any constitutional jurisdiction at all, is the FBI (and it's to big, and gustapo-like as far as I'm concerned). All the rest need to simply be thrown out.

The private sector eventually standardizes systems on it's own. Many times they aren't always the very best system. Many times they are the 2nd best, or 3rd best system. You'll never have utopia. (VHS vs Beta, Microsoft vs Linex, that sort of thing) But regardless, even though the invisible hand isn't perfect, it's still WAY way better, and more efficient,  then when government bureaucracies try to do it.

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Re:What about, say, the FAA?
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2003, 01:05:25 pm »

exactly, Tracy - the point is, even though Beta lost out to VHS (due to marketing) and was still 'technically' better, it was VHS that people decided on (yes, this was influenced by advertising etc).  But, if the government stepped in, and proclaimed Beta to be the de facto standard and regulating VHS to failure, we would still be waiting for DVDs to appear.  Yes, for a short while, we would have 'the best', but in the long term growth of the industry would have been stifled.... gimme choice over stagnation...

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Re:What about, say, the FAA?
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2003, 02:20:44 pm »

Yes thank you Michael. That was my point.

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Re:What about, say, the FAA?
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2003, 02:34:57 pm »

I should point out that the FSP will have no impact on or interest in the FAA, since that's federal level, and we're looking at state level.
True, however there are a lot of issues recommended by the FAA [or rulings by other federal agencies] that state and local governments voluntarily comply with simply to receive federal funding or to avoid the headache of trying to be different from the norm, take for instance some of the regulations that the Boise, ID airport has, some of which is inspired by FAA rulings and procedural recommendations:


CITY OF BOISE CODE -- TITLE 12.  AIR TERMINAL
12-01 PURPOSE; TITLE
12-02 SCOPE
12-03 DEFINITIONS
12-04 BOISE AIR TERMINAL DISTRICT
12-05 DESCRIPTION OF ESTABLISHED ZONES
12-06 MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMITATIONS
12-07 LAND USE LIMITATIONS
12-08 PERMITS
12-09 NON-CONFORMING USES
12-10 SPECIAL USE PERMITS
12-11 ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT
12-12 APPEALS AND AMENDMENTS
12-13 NOTICE OF AIRPORT HAZARDS
12-14 NOISE ABATEMENT PROVISIONS
12-15 VALIDITY
12-16 AIR TERMINAL PARKING
12-17 AIRPORT SECURITY PROGRAM
12-18 AIR TERMINAL FACILITIES
12-19 BOISE AIR TERMINAL PARKING PERMIT
12-20 NON-TENANT RENTAL CAR PERMIT
12-21 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE

Idaho State Code
http://www3.state.id.us/idstat/TOC/idstTOC.html
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Re:What about, say, the FAA?
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2003, 04:51:21 pm »

I should point out that the FSP will have no impact on or interest in the FAA, since that's federal level, and we're looking at state level.
True, however there are a lot of issues recommended by the FAA [or rulings by other federal agencies] that state and local governments voluntarily comply with simply to receive federal funding or to avoid the headache of trying to be different from the norm, take for instance some of the regulations that the Boise, ID airport has, some of which is inspired by FAA rulings and procedural recommendations:


CITY OF BOISE CODE -- TITLE 12.  AIR TERMINAL
12-01 PURPOSE; TITLE
12-02 SCOPE
12-03 DEFINITIONS
12-04 BOISE AIR TERMINAL DISTRICT
12-05 DESCRIPTION OF ESTABLISHED ZONES
12-06 MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMITATIONS
12-07 LAND USE LIMITATIONS
12-08 PERMITS
12-09 NON-CONFORMING USES
12-10 SPECIAL USE PERMITS
12-11 ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT
12-12 APPEALS AND AMENDMENTS
12-13 NOTICE OF AIRPORT HAZARDS
12-14 NOISE ABATEMENT PROVISIONS
12-15 VALIDITY
12-16 AIR TERMINAL PARKING
12-17 AIRPORT SECURITY PROGRAM
12-18 AIR TERMINAL FACILITIES
12-19 BOISE AIR TERMINAL PARKING PERMIT
12-20 NON-TENANT RENTAL CAR PERMIT
12-21 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE

Idaho State Code
http://www3.state.id.us/idstat/TOC/idstTOC.html
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