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Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« on: November 25, 2019, 08:07:54 pm »

https://jacobforliberty.com

Check him out.
Ron Paul wrote the opening for his book.
Tom woods, Scott Horton, Dave Smith endorsed

Liberty in our lifetime on a national level.
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Jerry B

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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 10:34:56 am »

Well, scm, you beat me to it. I was just going to post this about Jacob Hornberger and his campaign, so I will post it now.

Jacob Hornberger has been around in the libertarian world for decades. He is not 100% voluntaryist, but that's okay. He is extremely principled, especially when it comes to the non-aggression principle as applied to voluntary exchange, free markets, private private property rights and freedom of association.

And also when it comes to foreign policy: close down ALL foreign U.S. military bases and bring ALL the "troops" back to the U.S. They don't belong on those other territories! Stop invading, bombing and occupying other countries, period!

And he advocates peaceful trade and voluntary contracts on the immigration issue as well. The unalienable rights of each individual, especially to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, preexist the formation of any government, and preexist the formation of any country as well.

And a part of that whole immigration controversy is the drug war. Jacob understands and expresses the problems that drug prohibition causes. Drug prohibition causes a black market which gives us drug pushers and drug traffickers, drug lords and turf wars, and violence that many of those South and Central American immigrants are fleeing from. Another problem that Jacob has addressed is the problem of foreign aid, which ends up in the hands of those corrupt regimes in Honduras, El Salvador, etc, from which the people there are fleeing as well. End the drug war, end foreign aid, and you'll resolve much of the problem with "illegal" immigrants.

After all, why must individuals have to get the government's "authorization" to get a job somewhere or to hire someone in a free society? And who made the government the boss over what we may or may not ingest in our own bodies?

Ending the welfare state would also help. One problem with so-called libertarians like Gary Johnson is their acceptance of income confiscation and redistribution, such as the income tax and Social Security and Medicare. Jacob Hornberger rejects those things.

I think Jacob can add something that's been missing in these Libertarian Party campaigns for decades now since the 1988 Ron Paul campaign, a real understanding in terms of economics, philosophy and history of the principles of freedom and free markets.
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 04:11:23 pm »

thanks for the info jerry.


#dreamteam
If anyone is interested in stickers.  Let me know

Also, anyone remember the dailyPaul.com
I think we need a dailyberger.com
I have a hosting account but no computer to build a site.
Anyone want to team up?
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 08:41:50 pm »

Ron Paul, Tom Woods, Scott Horton, and Dave Smith are solid endorsements. Will definitely have to read up more on him. Have any particular suggestions?
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 08:17:56 am »

Ron Paul, Tom Woods, Scott Horton, and Dave Smith are solid endorsements. Will definitely have to read up more on him. Have any particular suggestions?

He has over 30 years of daily articles on his site. 
https://www.fff.org/blog/

Or
For those that don’t read
https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jacob+hornberger
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Jerry B

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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2019, 12:19:18 pm »

Here are two very well-written articles by Jacob Hornberger which express his views and principles in foreign policy:

"Time to Admit It: It Was Wrong to Invade Afghanistan"
https://www.fff.org/2010/10/14/time-admit-wrong-invade-afghanistan/

"Trade Wars and U.S. Foreign Policy"
https://www.fff.org/2010/01/05/trade-wars-foreign-policy/

Also, he points out the stark differences between libertarianism and statism:
https://www.fff.org/2011/01/30/libertarianism-statism-2/

And he had two posts in response to the Las Vegas mass shooting from 2017:
"U.S. Violence Abroad Begets Violence at Home"
https://www.fff.org/2017/10/03/u-s-violence-abroad-begets-violence-home/
and "America's Massive Warfare State and the Las Vegas Massacre"
https://www.fff.org/2017/10/05/americas-warfare-state-las-vegas-massacre/

I very much recommend especially those last two articles, showing the relationship between the U.S. government's killing spree abroad since World War II (and especially since September 11, 2001), and America's massive drug addiction and higher suicide rates, the "rage, incivility, or rudeness that has come to characterize many Americans who lose their temper for rather inconsequential reasons," and acts of violence like mass shootings.
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2019, 12:32:46 am »

A 700 ish view increase in one day. Where did they come from?  Will they spread the werd?
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2019, 10:11:51 am »

Help us raise $10,000 by January 1st
We need your help to raise the needed funds to win in several Libertarian Primaries. Your support also helps us to contact and find the delegates to win the Libertarian Presidential nomination.

While Jacob is certainly a front-runner in this nomination, nothing is guaranteed and he cannot get the nomination without all of our support.

We are using funds to inspire current members and get new members to join the Libertarian Party. Your donations go to help Jacob travel, build our databases to win the nomination and compete in the general election, distribute marketing materials, and more.

Please help us win this nomination so the Libertarian Party can have a solid spokesperson to really help us build the libertarian movement.



In Liberty,
Jake Porter
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2020, 09:59:22 am »

Jacob Hornberger won the Iowa Libertarian Party caucus. https://lpia.org/2020/02/08/libertarian-party-of-iowa-presidential-caucus-winner-and-results/

Jacob Hornberger 47.52%
Lincoln Chafee 12.77% (I think Chafee is more of a "Gary Johnson-Bill Weld" libertarian, i.e. NOT a libertarian!)
Jo Jorgensen 6.38%
Adam Kokesh 6.03%
17 other candidates

The LP of New Hampshire had its own primary in January (https://lpnh.org/2020/01/14/results-2020-libertarian-presidential-preference-primary/):

And Jacob came in 2nd place in the LP New Hampshire primary with 9 write-ins. Vermin Supreme was the top vote getter with 10 votes.

Kim Ruff (who has suspended her campaign) received 6, and Jo Jorgensen 5, and there were 13 others.
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2020, 10:01:31 am »

Jacob Hornberger won the Iowa Libertarian Party caucus. https://lpia.org/2020/02/08/libertarian-party-of-iowa-presidential-caucus-winner-and-results/

Jacob Hornberger 47.52%
Lincoln Chafee 12.77% (I think Chafee is more of a "Gary Johnson-Bill Weld" libertarian, i.e. NOT a libertarian!)
Jo Jorgensen 6.38%
Adam Kokesh 6.03%
17 other candidates

The LP of New Hampshire had its own primary in January (https://lpnh.org/2020/01/14/results-2020-libertarian-presidential-preference-primary/):

And Jacob came in 2nd place in the LP New Hampshire primary with 9 write-ins. Vermin Supreme was the top vote getter with 10 votes.

Kim Ruff (who has suspended her campaign) received 6, and Jo Jorgensen 5, and there were 13 others.

It’s unbelievable vermin won NH
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2020, 11:26:31 am »

Glad I checked this FSP forum! I had just learned that Hornberger is the only candidate on the Missouri primary ballot.
I'll read up and decide if I can just fill in the bubble and won't have to write my own name again.

If he really holds to the NAP, then maybe the LP has found its way, after many years.
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 12:39:35 pm »

The LP of Minnesota held their caucuses on February 25, 2020, and Jacob Hornberger won. According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Libertarian_Party_presidential_primaries

Final round:
Jacob Hornberger 47 votes / 59.5%
Jo Jorgensen 32 votes / 40.5%

And on "Super Tuesday":

In the California primary, Jacob won. According to Wikipedia and Reason.com https://reason.com/2020/03/04/libertarian-super-tuesday-big-night-for-jacob-hornberger-nota-john-mcafee-drops-out-and-backs-vermin-supreme/

Jacob Hornberger 17.5%
Vermin Supreme 11.6%
Ken Armstrong 11.6%

In Massachusetts, they're still counting those millions and millions of votes. It apparently takes time to count all those votes in the People's Republic. But, according to Reason, "No preference" leads with 19%, and then Vermin Supreme with 11.5%, and Jacob Hornberger with 9.4%.

In North Carolina,
"None of the Above" won with 29.8%
Jacob Hornberger 8.7%
John McAfee 8.2% (has now dropped out and wants to run for VP)

The biased, statist media are only concentrating on their fellow statists, Republican and Democrat, and they continue to ignore the third parties because the media are ignorant zombies. Well, if they hate Trump so much, and are openly promoting the senile dementia-suffering Joe Biden and the angry old communist Bernie, then they might want to check out the Libertarian Party for a change. (Wait a minute, they did check out the Libertarian Party for a change, in 2012 and especially 2016, but only because the stoned goofball Gary Johnson caught their attention. And he's not even an actual libertarian!)
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2020, 12:21:35 pm »

Jacob oftentimes refers to the libertarian non-aggression principle. Here is an article of his on how government immigration controls violate the libertarian non-aggression principle. https://www.fff.org/2017/08/15/immigration-controls-violate-libertarian-non-aggression-principle/

And he gets into the non-aggression principle in this criticism of conservatives who say they support "individual liberty, free enterprise, private property, and limited government," except for this or that statist policy, or this or that police state policy, or this or that welfare/warfare state policy, etc. etc. etc. https://www.fff.org/2015/02/20/conservative-blindness-principle/
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Re: Support libertarian candidate Jacob Hornberger 2020
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2020, 10:02:54 am »

I especially liked Jacob Hornberger's recent posts harshly criticizing Justin Amash's faux libertarianism and Amash's exploiting the Libertarian Party to advance his own political ambitions.

https://jacobforliberty.com/2020/04/justin-amash-lp-interloper-part-1-the-cia/

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...Case in point: the CIA, which is without any doubt the most evil federal agency in U.S. history.

Brought into existence in 1947, the CIA wields the omnipotent power to assassinate people, including Americans, and has exercised that power practically since its inception. It continues to exercise this evil power on a regular basis today.

It also wields the omnipotent power to incarcerate people indefinitely without due process of law and trial by jury.

It wields the omnipotent power to kidnap and brutally torture people and then destroy the evidence of its evil actions.

The CIA wields the power to go into foreign countries and effect regime-change operations through coups, assassination, bribery, and kidnapping.

One of the CIA’s most notorious acts in the history of our country was to engage in drug experiments on unsuspecting Americans. The program was called MKULTRA. Americans have never learned the full extent of this evil program because the CIA intentionally destroyed all of its MKULTRA files before Congress and the American people could lay their hands on them.

After World War II, the CIA knowingly and secretly brought former officials of Nazi Germany into the ranks of the CIA, using U.S. taxpayer money to fund their salaries.

There is no way to reconcile the CIA with the genuine concepts of liberty and limited government. A free society and a limited-government republic necessarily depend on the eradication of this evil agency from American society.

But that’s not the way Republicans and Republican-lites, including Amash, see it. They glorify the CIA, claiming that it’s a great defender of their concepts of “liberty” and “limited government.”

Take a look at this page of Amash’s congressional website. Scroll down to the following two entries: “CIA Kids Page (Kindergarten-5th Grade)” and “CIA Kids Page (6th Grade-12th Grade).

Yes, that’s right: despite all is mantras extolling “liberty” and “limited government,” Congressman Justin Amash is sending kids — kids! — to the website of the CIA, the most evil agency in U.S. history.

And what do those kids see when they arrive at the CIA’s website. They see classic propaganda issued by this evil agency: “The people of the CIA do very important work. They help keep our country safe…. If you read carefully, you can become a CIA expert. We also have some fun stories and games for you.”

Amash’s sending of kids to the website of this evil organization is both pathetic and shameful. But it is entirely consistent with conservatism, Republicans, and libertarian-leaning Republicans.

If LP members want their presidential candidate extolling the virtues of the CIA and sending kids to the CIA’s website, then I’m not your guy.

But if you want an LP candidate who is going to tell the truth to the American people about the CIA and explain why this evil agency is incompatible with the genuine principles of freedom and limited government and why it needs to be abolished, not reformed, then I qualify to be your presidential candidate in the general election.

Also: https://jacobforliberty.com/2020/04/justin-amash-lp-interloper-part-2-the-stimulus-package/

And: https://jacobforliberty.com/2020/04/justin-amash-lp-interloper-part-3-addressing-amashs-supporters/

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Amash’s supporters also say that it is unfair for me to point out that Amash’s congressional website directs kids to the CIA because the other Republican members of Congress have the same provision on their websites.

Well, duh! Why wouldn’t Republicans have the same provision on their websites? Conservatives and Republicans love the CIA. They love the entire national-security establishment. They think it’s necessary to keep us “safe.” They don’t understand that the CIA is the most evil agency in U.S. history and that it is antithetical to the principles of liberty and libertarianism.

When he was a Republican, there was nothing to prevent Amash from having his own provision about the CIA on his own congressional website. All that he had to do was to instruct the congressional website manager to add something like the following to his own congressional website: “I support the abolition of the CIA, the most evil agency in U.S. history. Please don’t send your kids there.” He didn’t do that, not even when he left the GOP and declared himself an Independent. That’s because he believes in the CIA and, at best, simply wants it “reformed” or “reined in.”

Not me. I want this evil agency abolished, not reformed. A free society necessarily depends on its eradication.
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