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Author Topic: Lots of potential 2014 anti-liberty ballot questions in MA = good news for NH  (Read 6098 times)

freedomroad

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There are several potential 2014 anti-liberty ballot questions in MA that will hurt the MA economy but help the NH economy.

The biggest is the minimum wage increase. It call for increasing the min. wage from $8 to $10.50 over 2 years. The MA Senate is trying to get ahead of it. It just voted to increase the min. wage to $11 over 3 years and to over double the min. wage for tipped workers, from $2.63 to $5.50. This is bad news for companies located in MA that currently pay some employees less than $12 an hour. That's something like $600,000 workers. It also might mean more automation of jobs and such, which could increase unemployment. Additionally, some companies might relocate to NH, which is good for the NH economy. It's also good for NH workers because there is no wage tax in NH The main benefit to potential free staters is the higher pay. Only know how to flip burgers? That's cool. Move to Nashua, NH and work just over the border in MA. Within a couple years, you will be making $13 an hour, which is more than enough to live in Nashua. This will be a nice boost to bartenders, servers, casino workers, ski area workers, Walmart greeters, security workers and so on.
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/massachusetts_senate_overwhelm.html

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...[an]other question, if approved, would ensure that every worker in Massachusetts could earn up to 40 hours of earned sick time. Companies with 11 or more employees would have to provide paid sick time, while companies with 10 or fewer employees would need to provide unpaid sick time.
This will also encourage companies to relocate or expand in NH. Which means more jobs without a state wage tax. Additionally, for the free staters the decide to work in MA for whatever reason, this will give them more money or at least free time. That time can be used for liberty projects ;)

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Janet Domenitz, executive director of the Massachusetts Public Interest Group, said that a coalition collected about 129,000 signatures for a proposed question that would expand the state's 30-year-old, 5-cent bottle deposit law to include additional containers including those of water, flavored water, coffee-based drinks, juices and sports drinks.
That's 5 additional types of drinks that the 5 cent deposit tax would cover in MA. NH doesn't have a bottle deposit tax. That will just encourage MA shoppers to cross the NH border to shop even more than they currently do. Awesome news for NH small grocery stores, gas stations and stores near the NH/MA border.

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A union representing Massachusetts nurses collected enough signatures for two ballot questions including one that would establish a law to limit the number of patients that can be assigned to a registered nurse at one time at a hospital, according to Stephanie Sanchez, campaign manager for both questions.

The other proposed ballot law by nurses would regulate the annual operating margins of certain health-care facilities, including Massachusetts hospitals, that accept funds from the state.
The nurses union in MA is trying to increase regulations for health care in MA. Will to encourage some hospitals to expand in NH, some medical professionals to move to NH or mean there will be more nursing jobs in MA? It's hard to tell but the 2 ballot questions look like they are designed to negatively impact health care companies in MA.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/advocates_in_massachusetts_hav.html
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freedomroad

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Will Maine have anti-liberty ballot questions in 2014? I don't know but chances are very good that it will happen. All 5 statewide 2013 ballot questions in Maine were about bonding money to expand the government. They all passed and are all designed to increase spending and taxes in Maine.

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Since 1995, an average 6 state questions have appeared on the ballot. Since 1995, 54 of 108 or 50% of Maine ballot measures regarded bond issues. Mainers have approved 52 of 54 or 96.3% of the bond questions on the ballot since 1995.
http://ballotpedia.org/Maine_2013_ballot_measures
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The BET has a wage tax built in. While automation might reduce the number of NH residents working in MA.
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That's 5 additional types of drinks that the 5 cent deposit tax would cover in MA. NH doesn't have a bottle deposit tax.
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/advocates_in_massachusetts_hav.html

Deposits aren't taxes. You get the money back in lieu of littering.
This is true even if you don't like deposits.

If there is no NH deposit and MA'ers go there to get 5-cent cheaper drink cans does that mean they will just throw them in the trash, wasting aluminum, or on the side of the road since the gov't won't give them any money for the used cans.
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John: Or make work for some.  I work in the medical automation industry for instance.  Would be nice to sell more systems locally so I could travel less.


Solthman:  The bottle deposit might as well be a tax since the amount is so low it's not worth the effort to bring the bottles and cans back unless you make next to nothing.
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Not sure why you would sell more locally, since the concept is that MA will reduce the number of workers using automation because of the higher cost of labor through regulation and taxation making the investment more worthwhile.

Or are you thinking that NH will increase the regs and taxation to spur more automation in NH?
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Deposits aren't taxes. You get the money back in lieu of littering.
This is true even if you don't like deposits.

It's either a tax on your time or a tax on your money. And if it is a tax on your time, it also ties up your money for a period of time. So anyway about it, it's an evil tax and should be stopped where it happens and never spread. And thank god that NH doesn't have it!
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Not sure why you would sell more locally, since the concept is that MA will reduce the number of workers using automation because of the higher cost of labor through regulation and taxation making the investment more worthwhile.

Or are you thinking that NH will increase the regs and taxation to spur more automation in NH?


In some states our company has sold more product for the specific reason that regulation causes the cost of labor to go up.  So in turn the companies buy our equipment in order to cut staff and save money.  Though sometimes regulation goes the other way (actually usually) where they regulate a certain test not only causing us to lose sales, but also costing the people who do it manually their jobs since no one can afford to do the test anymore.  Isn't government swell?
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Solthman:  The bottle deposit might as well be a tax since the amount is so low it's not worth the effort to bring the bottles and cans back unless you make next to nothing.

A 2011 report found that many places in MA refuse to even take the stuff back. I don't know if it is a majority, but it's certainly was great deal. So not only do you have to return them, you have to research where to take them, unless things have changed. There is a law about it in MA but apparently, the businesses don't follow the law and the MA government does nothing to punish the places. And many places only pay you 3 cents, when the deposit is 5 cents.

Stores Break State Laws By Refusing To Accept Bottle Returns
By David Wade, WBZ-TV
July 25, 2011 11:56 PM
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/07/25/stores-break-state-laws-by-refusing-to-accept-bottle-returns/
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MA is promoting the increase in the price of labor.
I guess that I misunderstood by what you meant by 'local'; I thought you meant that you would sell more automation in NH.
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MA is promoting the increase in the price of labor.
I guess that I misunderstood by what you meant by 'local'; I thought you meant that you would sell more automation in NH.


Oh... our company has had zero sales in NH sadly.  We almost sold a machine to Dartmouth for research, but one of our guys totally blew the sale.  Usually the places that buy them are near large population centers or cover very large areas.
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MA is promoting the increase in the price of labor.

What do you mean by that?
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Increasing the minimum wage and benefit package paid; that increases the price of labor.
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