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Re:NH is in the lead, not good though.
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2003, 06:07:14 pm »

We've had lots of reports of people going over the 101 reasons with a fine tooth comb, and verifying every one.
When a few people brought up reasonable questions about the reasons, we modified some of them..... For instance in the original version, we said the state wide property tax would be lowered by half, from $5.80/$1000 to $3.00/$1000. Someone pointed out that was not half (it's 48.3%), so we changed it to "nearly half".
All of us feel it is much more rewarding to promote a state than to just try to oppose one. It is much more positive, and feels good to be upbeat.
But feel free to keep talking about New Hampshire..... Everytime you put our name up there again, the name recognition and exposure increases.
We appreciate your help. :D

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The sad thing is with all the exposure in every poll or vote I have seen NH is either 2 or 3. Guess who was first in all. Wyoming of course. So with all the BS and Forrest Gump reasoning you still can't get enough people to eat that sugar-coated ball of crap.  :o
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Re:NH is in the lead, not good though.
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2003, 08:25:18 am »

At first when I’ve heard about FSP I did not even consider any eastern state .
I am fed up with the progressive socialism in the New England and basically everywhere in the east coast.
I am outdoor person. For that reason I was thinking about Montana or Wyoming as the best place and especially Montana as the most free state. I lived in Arizona for a while back in 1992 and I loved in there.
Unfortunately I learned in Arizona during NAFTA taking place what it mean if you can not continue your job and try to make a living. At the time of recession I decided to move back to Connecticut (bad panic move). I did not see jobs in otherwise beautiful Colorado. Also I spent one vacation in California.
I was very seriously considering homestead program in International Fouls in Minnesota. Been there in December 1988. Knowing the west as I do, and learning from the media spin as much as possible to decipher, I come up with idea of the best state for me to live would be Montana, but I would have to figure out what I could do there for living. That was before I learned about FSP and before reading from the site and in the forums.
Than big fuss about NH got my attention. I have been to NH hangliding sites many times since 1987, but never paid attention to what actually the state of NH is. I’ve seen southern part and it was looking very much like Connecticut, except much more woods. I thought of NH as yet another socialist state. To White Mountains I’ve been maybe three times before, once coming back from Maine. For the hunting purposes I was thinking about buying land in Maine. Maine was for me substitute of my imaginary Montana.
Since FSP I started to observe political system to see which state fits to our purposes, and I discovered NH is not like other states in the east. It is “do it yourself” ( in politics) state. People are not apathetic in there. I was surprised at first to learn that many political activists are not even affiliated with the Libertarian party. I was surprised to learn that in NH exist many very active groups working on one or few issues of  their interest, the issues basically within Libertarian platform. I learned about groups working on Objectivist issues, reaching even further than Libertarian platform. I was surprised see unorganized people knowing constitution of the state and USA. People knowing history, learning history as a hobby. History not only of The USA or their state but also history of the world.. People of NH are active and they know what they want.
This is atmosphere of not only “leave me alone” but the atmosphere of “if you do not like it – fix it” and in majority of my observations people are there about Individualism rather than Collectivism.
For me NH is politically very attractive.
NH is the best place for business. Some companies are moving there instead moving to Bermudas or Asia. People fed up with socialism on the east are for years moving to NH. I was very much tight in place by manufacturing business in Connecticut, but now I see this business is running out and not much left in my state. In the case if NH would be elected I could continue in my profession without learning new skills and starting all over again from scratch. In my opinion NH has the best growing (all around) business now.
Than in the last week I’ve seen the wilderness of NH north of White Mountains. Thousand of acres available for hunting, hiking, camping and fishing. I am not sure the land in NH is less expensive than in Maine, but is affordable.
For years I liked Connecticut (politically sucks!) for its compactness. Very close to ocean, woods or mountains, from wherever you live. I appreciate the place where if I have half day free, I could go to my outdoors. NH is like Connecticut in this respect only better. I can appreciate business like used to be in Connecticut for living, tourist areas in White Mountains or in Vermont (across the Connecticut River), for skiing and hiking, and wilderness just about fifty miles away if one want to go to own camp in the woods for weekend..
NH has it all.: the best politics, business, tourism and outdoor within max 150 miles. What NH does not have is hundreds miles of the same thing. Does not have great distances. It is very compact state and this might be negative for some, but I did not really appreciated driving for up to 200 miles from Phoenix to Great Canyon or Roosevelt Lake every weekend – but this is maybe just me. I love Arizona BTW.
Considering all I know today, NH is the best state for me personally and I think it is the best for FSP for its easy start. And of course I think about myself first and about money. I am egoist and I wish all my neighbors would be the same. I want to earn my living and enjoy it to the fullest.
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NH is in the lead, VERY good.
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2003, 08:36:43 am »

So with all the BS and Forrest Gump reasoning you still can't get enough people to eat that sugar-coated ball of crap.  :o

Hey! Intelligent, thoughtful response, Zion... We'll be putting you up as a state rep candidate any minute now....

You are really doing a diservice to WY with posts like that... I thought it was easterners who were supposed to be the rude ones... ???

But don't worry, I assume most people there are nicer, and more thoughtful and reasonable than you.
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Re:NH is in the lead, VERY good.
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2003, 08:55:52 am »

So with all the BS and Forrest Gump reasoning you still can't get enough people to eat that sugar-coated ball of crap.  :o

Hey! Intelligent, thoughtful response, Zion... We'll be putting you up as a state rep candidate any minute now....

You are really doing a diservice to WY with posts like that... I thought it was easterners who were supposed to be the rude ones... ???

But don't worry, I assume most people there are nicer, and more thoughtful and reasonable than you.
Let's sing kumbaya
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Re:NH is in the lead, not good though.
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2003, 08:59:32 am »

Yup. Inclusion and working with people is how it has to be done.
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Re:NH is in the lead, not good though.
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2003, 09:00:27 am »

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Let's sing kumbaya  
What are you about, with this kumbaya thing?
What is your hick-up. I noticed your posts with some problem but I do not understand what it is
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Re:NH is in the lead, VERY good.
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2003, 09:11:57 am »

So with all the BS and Forrest Gump reasoning you still can't get enough people to eat that sugar-coated ball of crap.  :o

Hey! Intelligent, thoughtful response, Zion... We'll be putting you up as a state rep candidate any minute now....

You are really doing a diservice to WY with posts like that... I thought it was easterners who were supposed to be the rude ones... ???

But don't worry, I assume most people there are nicer, and more thoughtful and reasonable than you.
Let's sing kumbaya

Excessive vitriol will cause premature wrinkling and speed up the aging process in other less than desirable ways. It will also make you lonely. Quit letting your emotions and preconceptions rule the way you react to others.

Passion is good, if you're using it to further freedom accompanied by responsibility. If you're only using your passion to cause hard feelings and to stir up the mud on the river bottom, don't be surprised when you notice people going out of their way to avoid you or when someone sucker punches you from behind.

I'll sing Kumbaya with you if it will shut you up about how the entire New Hampshire contingent is giving out free crack to those who promise to vote for New Hampshire.
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Re:NH is in the lead, not good though.
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2003, 09:24:03 am »

How insulting Zion, though I guess it's to be expected.  Jealousy and envy usually breed insulting behavior.  If you have a list of all these proven fallacies, I'd like you to please send me a link to them.

I've reviewed New Hampshire thoroughly, and I find that it is the perfect state for the FSP to use.  I have fact checked and verified everything claimed in 101 Reasons to Choose New Hampshire, and I will assert to the death that it is the first and only acceptable decision in the state pool.
Unfortuneately for you that a good number of those 101 have been proven false.  :o Good research Forrest.
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