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[John Edward Mercier]

Rand is from Kentucky; the State right behind Alaska in receiving more federal money than it remits.

I don't think that's true. Where's the data?

I though Alaska was one state that would do just fine w/o the federal gov.

US Census has it all... but you can find it on any of several websites. And no Alaska is a territory of Russia without the US government. The federal government violated the constitution and purchased it.

[John Edward Mercier]

Hmm besides a few conservatives on Foxnews I don't know of anyone who considered Palin a figurehead of the tea party.  From what I have seen Ran Paul has been considered very influential.

The original tea party was started by Ron Paul and the paleoconservative movement to fight socialism and excessive taxation. Now the entire movement's been hijacked by Sarah Palin and neocons who want more gov. but put on the image they want less.

I don't know about Sarah Palin, but most of the people who label themselves tea partiers also call themselves constitutional conservatives, which is what Ran Paul labels himself.

I know a lot of anarcho-capitalists and liberty lovers who want to distance themselves from the tea party for a number of reasons. For one thing theyve been hijacked by big government neocons after they were started  by Ron Paul.

The original Tea Party was over 200 years ago. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist... nor anything vaguely close.
Tea Pariters are also not constitutional conservatives... unless that means only holding the constitution valid when it suits your wishes.

[antistate1190]

Hmm besides a few conservatives on Foxnews I don't know of anyone who considered Palin a figurehead of the tea party.  From what I have seen Ran Paul has been considered very influential.

The original tea party was started by Ron Paul and the paleoconservative movement to fight socialism and excessive taxation. Now the entire movement's been hijacked by Sarah Palin and neocons who want more gov. but put on the image they want less.

I don't know about Sarah Palin, but most of the people who label themselves tea partiers also call themselves constitutional conservatives, which is what Ran Paul labels himself.

I know a lot of anarcho-capitalists and liberty lovers who want to distance themselves from the tea party for a number of reasons. For one thing theyve been hijacked by big government neocons after they were started  by Ron Paul.

The original Tea Party was over 200 years ago. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist... nor anything vaguely close.
Tea Pariters are also not constitutional conservatives... unless that means only holding the constitution valid when it suits your wishes.

How is Ron Paul not an anarchist? He's said he's an anarchist many times. He believes in Austrian economics just like Mises and Rothbard.

Don't give me that "property is theft" bullsh*t.

[BigJoe]

Hmm besides a few conservatives on Foxnews I don't know of anyone who considered Palin a figurehead of the tea party.  From what I have seen Ran Paul has been considered very influential.

The original tea party was started by Ron Paul and the paleoconservative movement to fight socialism and excessive taxation. Now the entire movement's been hijacked by Sarah Palin and neocons who want more gov. but put on the image they want less.

I don't know about Sarah Palin, but most of the people who label themselves tea partiers also call themselves constitutional conservatives, which is what Ran Paul labels himself.

I know a lot of anarcho-capitalists and liberty lovers who want to distance themselves from the tea party for a number of reasons. For one thing theyve been hijacked by big government neocons after they were started  by Ron Paul.

The original Tea Party was over 200 years ago. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist... nor anything vaguely close.
Tea Pariters are also not constitutional conservatives... unless that means only holding the constitution valid when it suits your wishes.

 He's said he's an anarchist many times.

no he hasn't.

[antistate1190]

Hmm besides a few conservatives on Foxnews I don't know of anyone who considered Palin a figurehead of the tea party.  From what I have seen Ran Paul has been considered very influential.

The original tea party was started by Ron Paul and the paleoconservative movement to fight socialism and excessive taxation. Now the entire movement's been hijacked by Sarah Palin and neocons who want more gov. but put on the image they want less.

I don't know about Sarah Palin, but most of the people who label themselves tea partiers also call themselves constitutional conservatives, which is what Ran Paul labels himself.

I know a lot of anarcho-capitalists and liberty lovers who want to distance themselves from the tea party for a number of reasons. For one thing theyve been hijacked by big government neocons after they were started  by Ron Paul.

The original Tea Party was over 200 years ago. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist... nor anything vaguely close.
Tea Pariters are also not constitutional conservatives... unless that means only holding the constitution valid when it suits your wishes.

 He's said he's an anarchist many times.

no he hasn't.

He adheres to Austrian economics which is anarcho-capitalism. He follows Mises, Rothbard and Lew Rockwell who were all anarchists.

[John Edward Mercier]

Austrian economics is an economic theory; while anarchy is a political theory... they're not automatically attached.

[antistate1190]

Austrian economics is an economic theory; while anarchy is a political theory... they're not automatically attached.

OK but how is he not an anarchist?

[John Edward Mercier]

He's not opposed to government/governance.

[BigJoe]

Hmm besides a few conservatives on Foxnews I don't know of anyone who considered Palin a figurehead of the tea party.  From what I have seen Ran Paul has been considered very influential.

The original tea party was started by Ron Paul and the paleoconservative movement to fight socialism and excessive taxation. Now the entire movement's been hijacked by Sarah Palin and neocons who want more gov. but put on the image they want less.

I don't know about Sarah Palin, but most of the people who label themselves tea partiers also call themselves constitutional conservatives, which is what Ran Paul labels himself.

I know a lot of anarcho-capitalists and liberty lovers who want to distance themselves from the tea party for a number of reasons. For one thing theyve been hijacked by big government neocons after they were started  by Ron Paul.

The original Tea Party was over 200 years ago. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist... nor anything vaguely close.
Tea Pariters are also not constitutional conservatives... unless that means only holding the constitution valid when it suits your wishes.

 He's said he's an anarchist many times.

no he hasn't.

He adheres to Austrian economics which is anarcho-capitalism. He follows Mises, Rothbard and Lew Rockwell who were all anarchists.

you do not understand Austrian economics.  Mises was not an anarchist.  Neither were Hayek, Menger, Böhm-Bawerk, von Wieser, nor Schumpeter.

Austrian economics is value free.  When Rothbard talks about anarchy, he is no longer talking as an Austrian, but as a libertarian.

[rossby]

Austrian economics is value free.

Riiiiiiiight.