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Author Topic: Win-win situation (establishing safe partisan districts for 49 states, not NH)  (Read 1953 times)

Justify33

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Can we get liberal Democrats who focus on their own state's issues to encourage Libertarians to move away?  For example, hard line left wingers in Washington state would probably love Libertarians to move away (to NH).  If we could excite socially-conservative Democratic Washingtonians to help Libertarians move, they would be happier with their state propositions and capital's composition (a socialist leaning).  I could picture wealthy Democrats with their hearts set on spending programs giving $2,000 to rid their district of a Libertarian.  This is truly a win-win situation.

Perhaps conservative Republicans wouldn't mind moving pro-gay rights (and pro-drug legalization) Libertarians out of their state.

Some battleground states may be receptive to ridding themselves of Libertarians.  They want an unchallenged voting block. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index

Theoretically, the Libertarians there could use the cash to offset the moving expense to NH.  Or they would feel like donating money to the FSP was like giving money to their enemy's enemy.  Let's ally ourselves with Republicans and Democrats outside of NH.
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Can we get liberal Democrats who focus on their own state's issues to encourage Libertarians to move away? .... Perhaps conservative Republicans wouldn't mind moving pro-gay rights (and pro-drug legalization) Libertarians out of their state.

Alternative Paradigm>>>  Instead of sequestering all libertarians in one place - with all due respect to the FSP - I think it makes more sense to look at a collection of 'swing states' - the more closely divided, the better.    Within ALL of those states, bring together the Fiscally Responsible Democrats and the Socially Tolerant Republicans into a Liberty Bloc that holds the balance (notice I'm scrapping the terms 'conservatives' and 'liberals,' on purpose).  Such an approach requires less people-moving, creates more liberyt-centers, and creates an effective block against stupid federal Constitutional Amendments, which one state alone can not do.
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Can we get liberal Democrats who focus on their own state's issues to encourage Libertarians to move away? .... Perhaps conservative Republicans wouldn't mind moving pro-gay rights (and pro-drug legalization) Libertarians out of their state.

Alternative Paradigm>>>  Instead of sequestering all libertarians in one place - with all due respect to the FSP - I think it makes more sense to look at a collection of 'swing states' - the more closely divided, the better.    Within ALL of those states, bring together the Fiscally Responsible Democrats and the Socially Tolerant Republicans into a Liberty Bloc that holds the balance (notice I'm scrapping the terms 'conservatives' and 'liberals,' on purpose).  Such an approach requires less people-moving, creates more liberyt-centers, and creates an effective block against stupid federal Constitutional Amendments, which one state alone can not do.

There will likely never be a "Liberty Bloc" at the federal level.
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creaganlios

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There will likely never be a "Liberty Bloc" at the federal level.

I was thinking more in terms of Liberty Blocs in enough states to block 38 from adopting an anti-liberty amendment.
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WendellBerry

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There will likely never be a "Liberty Bloc" at the federal level.

I was thinking more in terms of Liberty Blocs in enough states to block 38 from adopting an anti-liberty amendment.

A Non-Partisan League is the way to do it...

Draw-up a left-libertarian plank of demands that splits off socially tolerant Rs and fiscally conservative Ds

Have the NPL back anyone in the primaries of the two dominant parties who pledges to support or enact the plank.

Once you have enough NPLs in each party - split the major parties.
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Why split the major parties? If the two wings are equally balanced... it the independents that decide the race.
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Why split the major parties? If the two wings are equally balanced... it the independents that decide the race.

major parties that are really alll about status quo and for big government and anti personal liberty  oh and like war.
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That sounds like a good idea.  The problem, of course, is that many people vote for something they don't want only out of guilt.  Deep down, a lot of Americans prefer the Libertarian Deal (give up your favorite gov't programs, and pay almost no taxes).  Voters from both parties in Washington actually like the Libertarians, and were glad that we were offering a third choice.
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Why split the major parties? If the two wings are equally balanced... it the independents that decide the race.

major parties that are really alll about status quo and for big government and anti personal liberty  oh and like war.
Won't the same thing happen.
That sounds like a good idea.  The problem, of course, is that many people vote for something they don't want only out of guilt.  Deep down, a lot of Americans prefer the Libertarian Deal (give up your favorite gov't programs, and pay almost no taxes).  Voters from both parties in Washington actually like the Libertarians, and were glad that we were offering a third choice.
You should have been at the Grappone Center... because exactly the opposite occurred.
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