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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 05:32:38 pm »

Thanks for everyone's response so far. I still have a question or two unanswered from my last post that I would like addressed.

I am comforted concerning lack of military in the area. Things are looking up!

So I went back and looked at the Statement of Intent and another question popped up:

I understand expulsion may occur if someone advocates violence as a means of getting their way.
I also understand that NH has in their state constitution Article 10. Right of Revolution.
Revolutions tend to be violent.
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?
I mean the gun aspect is there for a reason, right?

I need to have all my bases covered if I am going to sign on the dotted line.
Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 05:53:35 pm »

There aren't any major military bases in NH at all.  Are there even any in MA or VT, not that I know of.  I know there is at least one small one somewhere in MA.  There is also at least one small one in ME.  There are companies that do defense work in NH and MA.

There are plenty of small bases.  Portsmouth Naval Shipyard used to be a large Naval base, although it's been scaled back.  The navy was going to sell it till they found out that the state (ME not NH) wanted it to go to a condo developer.  Also BAE has a large presence in Nashua.

The Portsmouth Navel Shipyard was the one small base in ME that I know of.  BAE is in Nashua and the Boston, MA area, which is good.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 05:55:33 pm »

Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?

I doubt the FSP will still exist as an organization 20 years from now.  So if a popular revolution happens than that includes some violence, I don't think it will make much difference as far as the FSP goes.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 06:36:27 pm »

Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain sovereignty?

It says that you will not "advocate coercion or violence". The FSP just tries to get people to move to New Hampshire. It doesn't need to be associated with people advocating violent criminal behavior.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 12:47:38 pm »

So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.



Another question I have is this: In Washington state the presence of the Indians is still relevant here. The casinos are owned by them (not that they pay land taxes on them), there are nearby reservations. Does NH have any memorials, reservations or Indian culture accessible?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2010, 01:18:53 pm »

So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.



Another question I have is this: In Washington state the presence of the Indians is still relevant here. The casinos are owned by them (not that they pay land taxes on them), there are nearby reservations. Does NH have any memorials, reservations or Indian culture accessible?

Thanks,
Mark

For the first question... the FSP has no real position on anything.... except  move to NH.

Not much Indian culture.  No casinos in NH.

Here is some history that might interest you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Indian_Stream
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2010, 01:31:23 pm »

So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.

More or less moot. I mean, the issue you're looking at isn't what that part of the SOI was intended to cover. For example, please refer to the New Hampshire Constitution, Part I, Article 10 ("Right of Revolution").
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2010, 04:39:15 pm »

Thanks for all the answers. I think I still have questions. I have been doing as much research as possible into NH.

Has anyone met P.J. O'Rourke? I have read he lives in NH. And when I discovered his books and way of thinking it felt like a new chapter opened in my life.

Thunderstorms... are they significant in NH? I live on the left coast here in Bremerton and our thunderstorms are generally weak and few and far between. I didn't know what a good one was until i went to the midwest in the summer time.

Earthquakes are they significant in NH? Over here they are, or can be, and you can't see those things coming. Tornados? Icestorms? Any slightly dangerous weather? Besides flooding... I already know what that is. Which is why a place on the hill is where I will settle in NH when I get there.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2010, 04:56:25 pm »

Thanks for all the answers. I think I still have questions. I have been doing as much research as possible into NH.

Has anyone met P.J. O'Rourke? I have read he lives in NH. And when I discovered his books and way of thinking it felt like a new chapter opened in my life.

Thunderstorms... are they significant in NH? I live on the left coast here in Bremerton and our thunderstorms are generally weak and few and far between. I didn't know what a good one was until i went to the midwest in the summer time.

Earthquakes are they significant in NH? Over here they are, or can be, and you can't see those things coming. Tornados? Icestorms? Any slightly dangerous weather? Besides flooding... I already know what that is. Which is why a place on the hill is where I will settle in NH when I get there.


There's an occasional thunderstorm in the summer. Fairly uncommon, but I used to really enjoy them as a kid.

Almost no earthquakes at all ... too much granite.

Tornadoes are extremely rare ... too many hills.

Yes, there are ice storms occasionally. Fewer than in slightly warmer climes -- most of the winter precipitation in NH is fluffy snow.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2010, 06:35:39 pm »

Thanks for everyone's response so far. I still have a question or two unanswered from my last post that I would like addressed.

I am comforted concerning lack of military in the area. Things are looking up!

So I went back and looked at the Statement of Intent and another question popped up:

I understand expulsion may occur if someone advocates violence as a means of getting their way.
I also understand that NH has in their state constitution Article 10. Right of Revolution.
Revolutions tend to be violent.
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?
I mean the gun aspect is there for a reason, right?

I need to have all my bases covered if I am going to sign on the dotted line.
Thanks,
Mark

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2010, 07:34:22 pm »


Almost no earthquakes at all ... too much granite.


I remember feeling an earthquake as a kid. The epicenter was somewhere in Quebec, or Ontario. We felt it in eastern Maine - it rattled the dishes in the dish drainer for a few seconds. I think it was a category 6 or 7, however they say that.

I'm not sure granite makes earthquakes less common - that would depend on the number of faults. But it does make an earthquake of a certain Richter scale number (I think that's the name) less severe than the same number somewhere with a different depth of bedrock ( I can't remember which way it goes on the depth).
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2010, 08:13:24 pm »


I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2010, 08:23:53 pm »


I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

Except those persons conscientious of bearing arms, every able-bodied person over age 18 who is a U.S. citizen and not a member of the national guard or the state guard (there isn't one currently), is a member of the "unorganized militia".

Today, it's effectively meaningless.
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2010, 08:26:15 pm »


I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

No joke: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VIII/110-B/110-B-1.htm

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"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard."
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Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2010, 08:53:36 pm »


I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

No joke: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VIII/110-B/110-B-1.htm

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"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard."

so close!
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