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Sam_Adams

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Doctors Strike
« on: July 28, 2009, 07:00:40 am »

Hi,

Are there doctors on the forum?  I'm trying to find out how feasible it would be to try and start organizing a doctors strike for a  day.  I figure that might be a good way for people to understand that they do not have a 'right' that confers a liability on to someone else to provide that right ( talking about people that think they have a right to healthcare ).

How cool would it be if all doctors called in sick on a certain day?

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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 04:46:15 pm »

There is another active thread about whether there are doctors.  It appears there is a med student who is a member.

I might suggest, though, that if you want to plan an event where people risk their job, you be the one who's taking the risk, not others.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 05:43:17 pm »

How cool would it be if all doctors called in sick on a certain day?

That'd be terrible!

You don't have to "call in sick" and put your patients at risk. You can just stop taking federal Medicare/Medicaid dollars.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 08:24:53 pm »

Yes, but remember, it's the patients that are insisting that the doctors enslave themselves to a government run health care system. 

My hope would be that the doctors would organize and start mounting a resistance through ads, information, forums, etc - a strike would be part of the strategy. But the goal would be to put so much pressure on congress by the people ( patients ) that they would have to vote down the socialized medicine legislation and the strike would never occur.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 08:51:26 pm »

Yes, but remember, it's the patients that are insisting that the doctors enslave themselves to a government run health care system. 

You don't need to take government money just because patients "insist" that you should. Just stop serving those patients.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 08:27:50 am »

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You don't have to "call in sick" and put your patients at risk
* During Doctors' strikes in the past, the death rate declined, because the medical monopoly, owned by the drug companies et al, dispense poisons, aka drugs, that do much more harm than good. First aid is about the only thing the medical monopoly does fairly well. The other Libertarian doctor, at http://mercola.com , documents this fairly extensively. Most anything that's not a nutrient is a poison. Medical treatments cause more deaths per year than any disease and actually cause or exacerbate most disease in the first place.
* One of my Legislative Proposals for next year in NH is to end government support of monopolies, including the AMA, the ABA [bar assoc.] etc. Another is to start to end forced taxes, starting with property taxes on people's home grounds.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 10:04:53 am »

One of my Legislative Proposals for next year in NH is to end government support of monopolies, including the AMA, the ABA [bar assoc.] etc. Another is to start to end forced taxes, starting with property taxes on people's home grounds.

Do you have a sponsor for these bills?
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 11:44:42 am »

* During Doctors' strikes in the past, the death rate declined, because the medical monopoly, owned by the drug companies et al, dispense poisons, aka drugs, that do much more harm than good. First aid is about the only thing the medical monopoly does fairly well. The other Libertarian doctor, at http://mercola.com , documents this fairly extensively. Most anything that's not a nutrient is a poison. Medical treatments cause more deaths per year than any disease and actually cause or exacerbate most disease in the first place.

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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 12:17:50 pm »

* During Doctors' strikes in the past, the death rate declined, because the medical monopoly, owned by the drug companies et al, dispense poisons, aka drugs, that do much more harm than good. First aid is about the only thing the medical monopoly does fairly well. The other Libertarian doctor, at http://mercola.com , documents this fairly extensively. Most anything that's not a nutrient is a poison. Medical treatments cause more deaths per year than any disease and actually cause or exacerbate most disease in the first place.

Lunacy.

Well, not quite! There's statistical data out there that seems to support that death rates drop when doctors strike. It makes a little bit of sense. When doctors strike, elective procedures and the like are canceled. Buuut, in the end, the effects are not statistically significant. People blow it out of proportion. Makes for a good story.


Most anything that's not a nutrient is a poison.

In the proper dose, nearly anything can be a poison.

Medical treatments cause more deaths per year than any disease and actually cause or exacerbate most disease in the first place.

Medical treatments cause death or they are incident to death? I bet the deceased were probably eating and drinking water too. Correlation does not imply causation.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 12:47:46 pm »

Brainwashed by the govt monopoly education system about the govt supported monopoly pretended health care system.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 01:18:23 pm »

Brainwashed by the govt monopoly education system about the govt supported monopoly pretended health care system.

Ah, when reason fails, the other person must be brainwashed. Clever. ::)
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 04:23:43 am »

Fund the health care system you want to use. Don't fund the health care system you don't want to use. Simple.
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Re: Doctors Strike
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 07:49:29 am »

I just stumbled across this thread and thought i would weight in.  From our website:  www.doctorsonstrike.com

On July 4, 2009, Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine was established to take on the mission of preserving, protecting, and promoting individual rights and freedom in healthcare. We simultaneously issued a Declaration of Independence for Doctors and declared a philosophical and political war against the imminent government takeover of healthcare.

Doctors on Strike is establishing a rapidly growing national audience through our website, www.doctorsonstrike.com, where we supply doctors and patients with the philosophical and political ammunition to fight for their rights. Within the first three weeks, our website was visited by people from 756 cities in 40 countries around the world, including all 50 states in America. Our message is getting through to people interested in protecting the rights of doctors and patients.

Our most urgent goal is to defeat the statist healthcare reform legislation now being written by Congress.

Another immediate aim is to mobilize doctors to be prepared to go on strike against any new government-run healthcare plans.

Our longer term objective is to supply doctors and patients with the intellectual ammunition required to win the “philosophical war” against statism in medicine.

The founding of Doctors on Strike coincided with the 233rd anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Inspired by the genius of the Founding Fathers, our Declaration of Independence for Doctors recognizes that doctors and patients have inalienable rights; that the purpose of government is to protect these rights — not violate them; that rights impose limitations on government; that statism in healthcare violates these rights; that Washington’s plan to takeover healthcare would violate the rights of doctors and patients — the very heart of the healthcare system; that the Hippocratic Oath requires doctors to take action to prevent harm; and that doctors, patients, and elected officials need to act — now — to preserve, protect, and promote individual rights and freedom in medicine.

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I invite you to visit our site and also to sign our petition at http://www.doctorsonstrike.com/petitiontoprotectdoctor-patientrights.html
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