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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2002, 05:11:38 am »

Heres the start of paper I am working on:

Idaho; Gateway to Freedom

Idaho is the State of choice for the Free State Project

Economy

Manufacturing has recently supplanted agriculture as the most important sector of Idaho's economy. Cattle and dairy goods are among the leading agricultural products. Idaho's chief crops are potatoes (for which the state, easily the nation's largest producer, is famous), hay, wheat, peas, beans, and sugar beets. Electronic and computer equipment, processed foods, lumber, and chemicals are the major manufactured items.

The unspoiled quality of much of Idaho's land has nourished one of the youngest of Idaho's businesses—the tourist trade. Sun Valley, one of the nation's best-known year-round vacation spots, is an example of the development of resorts in Idaho. Mining, once the major source of income, and still economically important, produces phosphates, gold, silver, molybdenum, antimony, lead, zinc, and other minerals.

Boise , state capital and seat of Ada Co., SW Idaho, on the Boise River; inc. 1864. The largest city in Idaho, Boise is an important trade and transportation center. Food processing, trucking, lumbering, high technology, and light manufacturing are the major industries.. The region was developed for farming, and Boise drew wealth from orchards and fields rather than mines. Increased irrigation, hydroelectric power, and flood control projects associated with the Boise River have increased the area's agricultural yield. In the city are Boise State Univ. and a state penitentiary.
 
Boise Area Major Industries

Agriculture/Food Processing
Corporate Headquarters
Education
Financial Services
Government
High Technology
Manufacturing Military
Healthcare
Trade, Retail & Wholesale
Transportation
Utilities

Military
Healthcare
Trade, Retail & Wholesale
Transportation
Utilities

Boise Area Major Employers  

Private Employers

Micron Technology, Inc.
  (and subsidiaries)                            
Albertson's, Inc.                                    
Hewlett-Packard Company                  
J.R. Simplot Company                            
St. Luke's Regional Medical Center      
Saint Alphonsus RMC                          
DIRECTV                                              
U.S. Bank                                              
Idaho Power Company                        
Fred Meyer                                          
Micronpc                                              
Sears Boise Regional Credit Center    
Wells Fargo                                          

Public Employers

Mountain Home Air Force Base*  
Boise State University                  
Boise School District                    
Meridian School District                
Idaho Department of Health
  & Welfare                                  
Idaho National Guard                    
Boise City                                    
Ada County                                  
Nampa School District                  
U.S. Postal Service                      

Source: Boise Metro Chamber, collected from public & private employers, 2000

Geography
Much of Idaho has an unspoiled beauty, with rugged slopes and towering peaks, a vast expanse of timberland, scenic lakes, wild rivers, cascades, and spectacular gorges. From the northern Panhandle, where Idaho is about 45 mi (72 km) wide, the state broadens south of the Bitterroot Range to 310 mi (499 km) in width. The Snake River flows in a great arc across S Idaho; with its tributaries the river has been harnessed to produce hydroelectric power and to reclaim vast areas of dry but fertile land. To the north of the Snake River valley, in central and north central Idaho, are the massive Sawtooth Mts. and the Salmon River Mts., which shelter magnificent wilderness areas, including the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness, the Selway Bitterroot Wilderness Area, and the Idaho Primitive Area.

In the central and north central regions and in the Panhandle there are tremendous expanses of national forests covering approximately two fifths of the state and constituting one of the largest areas of national forests in the nation. Idaho's jagged granite peaks include Mt. Borah, which is 12,662 ft (3,859 m) high. Hells Canyon, which at one point is 7,900 ft (2408 m) below the mountaintops, is the deepest gorge in North America. The state also contains Craters of the Moon National Monument and a protected grove of ancient cedars at Upper Priest Lake.

Rushing rivers such as the Salmon and the Clearwater, and many lakes, notably Lake Pend Oreille, Lake Coeur d'Alene (often described as one of the world's loveliest), and Priest Lake, as well as the state's mountain areas, make Idaho a superb fish and game preserve and vacation land. The state is especially inviting to campers, anglers, and hunters (Idaho has one of the largest elk herds in the nation).

The state's climate ranges from hot summers in the arid southern basins to cold, snowy winters in the high wilderness areas of central and northern Idaho. The capital and largest city is Boise; other cities of importance are Lewiston, Pocatello and Idaho Falls.

Boise
·   Land Area Boise MSA - 1,645 Sq. Miles
·   Boise Elevation - 2,842 Ft.
·   Mean Temperature - 50.9 F. Degrees
·   Precipitation (annual) - 12.11 inches
·   Number of Sunny Days - 234


Education
Outstanding among Idaho's institutions of higher learning are the Univ. of Idaho, at Moscow; Idaho State Univ., at Pocatello; and Boise State Univ., at Boise.



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glen

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2002, 11:59:54 pm »

Here is a photo I took of the Frank Church Wilderness. It was taken in July of 2002 from the Continental  Divide looking west and north. To be fair, the view of Montana to the east was just as beautiful.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=21;action=display;threadid=502  Please see reply #4.

Here are a couple of web cams:

http://www.sunvalleycam.com/

http://www.mountain-memories.com/webcam.htm

http://www.brundage.com/webcam/WPage.html#top

http://www.srv.net/~jpat/teton.html

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2002, 12:07:34 am »

Education

Joe has pulled together a broad examination of the schooling issues. Idaho ranks well in that the teachers union is considered relatively weak.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1137

Idaho seems to have one of the best home school environments of the 10 candidate states.

Here are selected Idaho links from The Home School Legal Defense Association: http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp

1) State Laws: http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?State=ID

2) Idaho News headlines: http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/ID/default.asp

3) Organizations:

Christian Home Schoolers of Idaho: http://www.chois.org/

Idaho Coalition of Home Educators: http://www.iche-idaho.org/


Here are a few links found on a Google search:

http://www.gomilpitas.com/homeschooling/regional/Idaho.htm

http://www.inspirit.com.au/unschooling/states/idaho.html

http://integrityhs.hypermart.net/

http://home.rmci.net/portela/other_homeschoolers.html


I am not a parent so cannot judge the quality of the different schools and resources nor do I know much about the issues involved. If a more knowledgeable individual or group would like to do a study of the home school situation in Idaho and post the results to this thread, I will be happy to delete my post on the subject.  
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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2002, 03:26:45 pm »

ZC: Some of this stuff is inaccurate so you may want to check multiple sources. For one Micronpc no longer exists, for about 3 years now. Looks like you are just cutting from another website. You may want to check into that intellectual property law before you claim it as your own.

I live in Boise, Micron PC does still exist I know people who work there I drive by the place almost daily. None of this info is inaccurate accept perhaps it is dated a bit as too numbers but still reflects things quite well.

Blayne
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2002, 06:32:42 pm »

I'm fairly pro-Idaho, but my understanding is the growth rates for Idaho are more severe than for most of the other candidate states.

Is this correct, and if so would this make it too hard for Idaho to absorb the extra 20K?

Is it true that the population is expected to almost double there in the next 10 yrs?  

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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2002, 07:43:59 pm »

My premise has been no this is less of a problem then a less populated state that cannot economically support the influx of 20,000, wich could trash the economy of such a state.

Here is a couple of threads where we hashed through this you might want to check out:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=206;start=180

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=713

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2002, 10:52:29 pm »

Joe is doing a comparison of the state legislatures at:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1002

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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2002, 11:38:50 pm »

Idaho Employment
Here is a representative selection of job listing agencies.

Medical Jobs (by profession rather than location)
http://www.medicaljobsonline.com/

Management Jobs (by profession rather than location)
http://www.executiveregistry.com/home2.php?C=e7rKjNDMvs3

Academic Jobs
http://www.academiccareers.com/

Accounting Jobs
http://www.accountemps.com/

Computer Jobs
http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers

Transportation Jobs
http://www.jobsinlogistics.com/

Camp Jobs
http://www.campstaff.com/

Temp or Contract Jobs
http://www.net-temps.com/

Flip Dog
http://www.flipdog.com/js/jobsearch-results.html?loc=ID&srch=&job=1

Career Builder
http://idahostatesman.gannettonline.com/careerbuilder/index.html

Hot Jobs
http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

Monster
http://www.monster.com/

Win Win Jobs
http://winwinjobs.com/

Fedworld (Federal Government Jobs)
http://www.fedworld.gov/jobs/jobsearch.html

America’s Job Bank
http://www.ajb.dni.us/

Idaho Zip Codes needed for searching America’s Job Bank
http://phonenumber.us/zipcodes/idaho.html
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2002, 12:00:07 pm »

FreedomRoad started an interesting thread on the subject of the ‘living wage’ movement.

Idaho does not have any communities with a living wage nor any indication that anyone is working on such a thing but Missoula, Montana does and in Spokane, Washington someone is looking into the matter on behalf of the municipal employees.  

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1047
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2002, 01:30:58 am »

Zxcv has started an interesting thread on the ‘Potential for informal (non-FSP) libertarian immigration’. Of the western states, Idaho is thought to be in a position to benefit from this more than any of the states.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1094



Zxcv’s thread idea more or less parallels a thread I started about lone wolves and it seems appropriate to include it here.

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=350
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2002, 05:43:32 pm »

I was just reading the opinion columns in the Idaho Statesman:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/Opinion/malloy/story.asp?ID=23952
"Republicans, including Gov. Dirk Kempthorne and some legislators, are telling voters that they had no clue that the state economy was going into the tank before approving $100 million in permanent tax cuts during the 2001 session..."

Uh, let's see, this guy is saying tax cuts are bad for a sinking economy?  ::)

What reading I've done so far makes it look like the papers are predictably statist, but they tend to mute it a little more than they do here in Portland. Guess they're worried about losing readership. ;)

I have to throw a little cold water on your guys Idaho love-fest (even though I like Idaho). Picking this state would do nothing to demonstrate the effectiveness of freedom in boosting the economy, as turning things around in a mediocre state would. And that would be a big loss for us.

BTW, this looks like a very useful resource for you Idahoaphiles - the Idaho Public Affairs Digest:
http://www.ridenbaugh.com/ipad/ipad.htm
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How did Idaho change last month? What really happened, what really made a difference in Idaho?
The easy way to find out is with the Idaho Public Affairs Digest, a tightly condensed 12-page monthly report that in one comprehensive package tells you everything you need to know about what's making Idaho tick.
We tell you what's making headlines, and what isn't, and why. We tell you how debate on important topics is shifting, where the cutting edge is going - and why. We keep you up to date on Idaho's:

People - obituaries and important in-life changes for Idaho's public people.

Events - calendar items coming for the next couple of months.

Developments - tracking in many ways, including a month-to-month chronology.

Resources - state, federal and local documents, rules and government actions, and Supreme Court and other key court decisions.

Special reports you'll see nowhere else, putting change in Idaho into perspective.
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2002, 01:36:07 am »

This information is for the purpose of learning more about Idaho’s elected officials.

Please do not sent any of these people messages about the FSP.


Dirk Kempthorne, Governor
http://www2.state.id.us/gov/  

The official web sites for the new crop of state politicians has not been posted at this time.



Butch Otter. US Congress, Idaho First District
http://www.polisci.com/almanac/legis/district/ID01.htm
http://www.otter4idaho.com/about.cfm


Mike Simpson. US Congress, Idaho Second District
http://www.polisci.com/almanac/legis/district/ID02.htm
http://www.house.gov/simpson/


Almanac for both Idaho Senators:
http://www.polisci.com/almanac/legis/state/ID.htm

Larry Craig. US Senate
http://www.senate.gov/~craig/frontpage.htm

Mike Crapo. US Senate
http://www.senate.gov/~crapo/
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2002, 02:21:24 am »

I got into a discussion with a Ralph-Naderite greenie who said he would give the Free State Project some good publicity, saying, "anything would be better than the current monopolistic stranglehold the 'Replutocrats' have on the political system." This curious Green Party member --who has ties to Idaho, and who probably never realized Idaho is a candidate state-- was especially fond of "getting  all of the individualist capitalists out of Idaho" he recommended "the wastelands of Nevada, since, he reasoned, Nevada is already half-libertarian anyways." :)

But aside from all this charming dialogue that I am sharing, this person I spoke with brought forward some interesting facts about people in Idaho that he swears to be fact.  --(He thinks they are all great negatives about Idaho from his Greenie point-of-view):
1. There are more @#%! millionaires per capita in Idaho than any other state.
2. There are more patents issued per capita than any other state.
3. Idaho has more people living in poverty who are "shamed out of" accepting govt. welfare aid than any other state.

I have not yet verified that the first and second statements are true, though the third statement has been discussed here before.

These seem to be positives for Idaho as being a good candidate state if they can be verified; however, just as this greenie took a different point on these facts, some may find a different interpretation of what this means for Idahoans, i.e. does having more patents mean more entrepreneurship or more trust in govt. to defend their intellectual property?
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2002, 03:27:00 pm »

More entrepreneurship. The system of patents may be distasteful to libertarians (actually I'm not sure what the fuss is all about - I'm sure someone here will straighten me out  ;) ) but it's the system we have, so people are going to use it.

More millionaires often means people are fiscally conservative (driving junkers when they can afford a new Mercedes) as much as it means people are making a killing on the stock market or through being enterpreneurs.

I like it that the shame level is high. That is needed if we want to be free. People should be ashamed of some things.
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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2002, 09:40:58 pm »

FWIW, from the Idaho Constitution:

SECTION 2.  POLITICAL POWER INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their equal protection
and benefit, and they have the right to alter, reform or abolish the same whenever they may deem it necessary; and no special privileges or immunities shall ever be granted that may not be altered, revoked, or
repealed by the legislature.



ARTICLE III    LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT
 SECTION 17.  TECHNICAL TERMS TO BE AVOIDED. Every act or joint resolution shall be plainly worded, avoiding as far as practicable the use of technical terms.
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