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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #120 on: August 14, 2003, 09:01:34 am »

I'm starting with the parting shot.

Find Maine, then find Idaho on this ranking:

How States Rank in Cancer Fight From the Webmd website

(How nannyish is your state)
CA 10 XXXXXX ::)  (Most nanny state in nation)

ME  9 XXXXXX

DE  8 XXXXXX

VT  7 XXXXXX

AK  5 XXXXXX

NH  4 XXXXXX

ND  3 XXXXXX

WY  3 XXXXXX

ID  3 XXXXXX

SD  2 XXXXXX

MT  1 XXXXXX   :)


Categories: Access to care,coverage for clinical trials,Colorectal Cancer Screenings; Medically underserved,completed all steps for Medicaid option for Breast and Cervical Cancer Treatment Program; Tobacco Prevention,smoke free air,recommended excise tax,% of CDC min. spending

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Idaho is a Superior Choice Over Maine
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2003, 09:08:28 am »


I'm going to extend an olive branch to Maine just for responding to such a provocative sounding thread:
 
Rankings of candidate state "Fatalities in Alcohol-Related Crashes as a Percent of All Highway Fatalities"
 
NH, ND tied for 4th worse in nation
AK, MT, WY tied for 12th worse
SD 22nd
DE 25th
VT 31st
ID 38th
ME 48th (near best)
« Last Edit: August 15, 2003, 08:24:22 am by exitus »
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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2003, 09:15:32 am »

Eligible voter population (2000)

Wyoming - 364,909
Alaska - 436,215
Vermont - 461,304
North Dakota - 481,351
South Dakota - 552,195
Delaware - 589,013
Montana -672,133
Idaho - 924,923
New Hampshire - 926,224
Maine - 973,685  

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2003, 09:23:57 am »

Idaho

The Gem State’s Welfare Reform Sparkles

http://www.fullemployment.org/pdfreports/Idaho.pdf

Since October 96 (the start of TANF), Idaho’s caseload reduction percentage stands at 83.9%, ranking second among all the states and the District of Columbia.

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Maine

“Stuck In The Middle”

http://www.fullemployment.org/pdfreports/Maine.pdf

Ranked in the middle of the pack, the Pine Tree State appears to be comfortable with rather mediocre welfare reform success. But here’s a question for “Down-Easterners:” if L.L. Bean (Maine’s most famous retailer renown for excellent customer service) settled for mediocrity in its operations, would it even exist today? Maine faces economic challenges as all natural-resource economy states do, but the state owes it to its citizens and TANF recipients to improve its welfare program.

State- By- State Report commentaries on Progress of Welfare Reform by the Full Employment organization, Oct. 2002[/b]:
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Dependency on AFDC/TANF (government welfare program that gives cash payments) by State


StateRank (50 States)Ratio of Caseloads/Residents
Wyoming   1one in every 578 :)
Idaho   2one in every 560
South Dakota   6one in every 112
New Hampshire   12one in every 89
North Dakota 19one in every 76
Delaware   25one in every 61
Montana   31one in every 57
National Average   ---->one in every 50
Maine   39one in every 43
Vermont   42one in every 42
Alaska   45one in every 37



Food Stamp Dependency by State
StateRank (50 States)Food Stamp dependency
New Hampshire unavailable1 out of every 32 people :)
Wyoming91 out of every 22 people
Delaware141 of every 20 people
Idaho121 out of every 20 people
North Dakota unavailable1 out of every 17 people
South Dakota221 out of every 16 people
Vermont251 of out every 16
National Average   ---->1 out of every 15 people
Alaska281 out of every 15 people
Montana421 out of every 14 people
Maine451 one of every 12 people

Source: American Institute for Full Employment -Dec. '01(latest data available) State Welfare Reform Progress Reports

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2003, 09:33:09 am »

"Clean Elections"
(Leftist-speak for tax-payer funded election campaigns)
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/WorldNewsTonight/wnt000709_maine_politics_feature.html

Maine = Full funding All state offices, was approved through ballot inititive
Vermont = Governorship Only (full funding), Strict spending limits, all races, was approved by legislature

New Hampshire = Had a bill go before the legislature in 2000, issue was killed


Oooh, so Maine publicly funds the campaigns for ALL state offices.  Tax-payer-funded campaigning?  And you thought Campaign Finance Reform was awful, Maine went and took it to the next level!  

Idaho does not publicly fund election campaigns, nothing of the sort.

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2003, 10:12:19 am »

The Spreadsheets contain the rankings from the  Economic Freedom of North America (EFNA), by the Frazier Institute.

From Chapter 2: Overview of the Results of This Report, Economic Freedom of North America:

The Worst Performers
For Montana and North Dakota,
the rejection of economic freedom is a relatively new
taste. Both have gone from the middle of the pack
to battling West Virginia for bottom spot. Over the
same period, Montana and North Dakota have seen
their per-capita GDP decline by 23 and 31 percentage
points, respectively, against the national average.
Other consistent under performers include Maine,
New Mexico, Arkansas, Alaska, and Rhode Island.


The Spreadsheets also contain the EFI, the Economic Freedom in America's 50 States by economists John Byars, Robert McCormick, and Bruce Yandle.

The resulting 1999 nationwide rankings of our ten candidate states based on over 150 different indexes and measurements :
 
Idaho, #1  
Wyoming #4
South Dakota #5
New Hampshire #6
Delaware #7
North Dakota #21
Montana #26
Vermont #34
Alaska #38
Maine #42

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2003, 10:30:56 am »

Federal and State Medicaid Spending during FFY 2001

StateTotal Medicaid Spending2001 Population Est.Spending per Capita
Wyoming$246,735,811 493,754$500
Idaho$706,213,899 1,320,585$535
Montana$509,348,850 905,382$563
South Dakota$472,298,828 758,324$623
North Dakota$415,967,653 636,550$653
New Hampshire$878,037,464 1,259,359$697
Delaware$593,522,480 796,599$745
Alaska$580,767,655 633,630$917
Vermont$604,562,212 612,978$986
Maine$1,349,675,068 1,284,470$1,051


STATE ONLY Medicaid spending.
(State budgets are straining under this major part of their total expenditures)
StateState Medicaid Spending2001 Population Est.Spending per Capita
Idaho$136,505,6761,320,585$103
Montana$119,333,404905,382$132
Wyoming$74,466,526493,754$151
South Dakota$116,171,353758,324$153
North Dakota$100,450,505636,550$158
Alaska$148,695,611633,630$235
Vermont$151,807,165612,978$248
Delaware$211,122,219796,599$265
Maine$377,784,3521,284,470$294
New Hampshire$384,071,9971,259,359$305

Source:
US Census for 2001 Estimated population
State Health Facts Online -- Medicaid and SCHIP
http://statehealthfacts.kff.org

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Re:Only Fools Would Rank Maine Over Idaho
« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2003, 11:26:04 am »

They say an army travels on its stomach.Idaho has a fantastic job market if you need to work and cheap land if you dont.It also has an excellent agricultural base.
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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2003, 11:45:34 am »

A rating of the homeschooling laws based on the descriptions of state law found at the Homeschooling Legal Defense website ( http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp )


1. Alaska (10)
2. Idaho (9)
3. Wyoming, Montana (7)
5. Vermont, South Dakota, Delaware, New Hampshire (3)
9. Maine (2)
10. North Dakota (0)

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2003, 12:02:15 pm »

I have 3 comprehensive economic indices in the large spreadsheet, EFI, SBSI and EFNA (I've just updated the SBSI numbers by the way - I had had the 2001 numbers previously). I weighted all 3 equally and put no weigh on any other variable. The result was:

SD 28.41
(out of a possible 30, pretty damn impressive)
WY 25.21
NH 24.94
DE 23.73
ID 22.82
ND 19.82
VT 19.37
MT 19.31
AK 19.01
ME 17.72
(will someone please put this state out of its misery?)


Here's an article where the author tries to integrate the factors of the Small Business Survival Committee (SBSC) and Cognetics rankings (this was brought up earlier in another thread months ago)  :

http://www.bcentral.com/articles/harper/141.asp

Good for discussing how to look at the different criteria that those two different ratings use.

Not surprisingly, his rankings of the states from the 10 worst, working from the bottom:

#49  = Maine
#46  = Montana
#45  = North Dakota
#43 = Vermont

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Idaho is a Superior Choice Over Maine
« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2003, 01:02:15 pm »


According to the FSP FAQ: “important criteria include: 1) coastal access (to make ourselves less dependent on the American market and by extension American policies)”
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Under the state data section on theory ( http://www.freestateproject.org/state.htm ) there is also this
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Others would argue that coastline or border would matter only for independence, not autonomy, and do not think geography is important for the FSP.
 
 
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While I agree that coastal access could be a minor factor in attaining our goals, the idea that it is even relevant to our undertakings has been heavily challenged here:

Landlocked or Land-Linked Hub?

Others have also questioned the usefulness of coastal access and Canadian Borders:
coastal access
Concerned about a "land locked" US State
In addition, many comments have been made suggesting that Canada is "not a friend".


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The political, socialist, statist laws and programs we can fix.  Coasts and wild borders can not be added on when they are needed.

Joe, is this an admission by you that population is not the most significant of a factor in trying to attain a free state?
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What's going on in Maine?
« Reply #131 on: August 14, 2003, 03:00:47 pm »

From the Portland Press Herald Writer:
Maine's druggist shortage severe (July 31, 2003)
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Retail pharmacies can't pinpoint why Maine has a harder time than other states finding pharmacists. Some blame the absence of a pharmacy school in Maine and the state's perennial "brain drain" problem in which homegrown talent leaves for job and educational opportunities perceived to be better elsewhere.


Maine Policy Review "Economic Prosperity in Maine: Held Back by the Lack of Higher Education" by Philip A. Trostel
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Maine lags the nation in economic prosperity and in education attainment, and there is little doubt that the relative lack of higher education in Maine is a leading factor holding back the state's prosperity growth. In this article, Trostel looks at each of the three sources of Maine's relatively low education attainment: the net emigration of college graduates (who are presumably in search of employment opportunities elsewhere); relatively fewer students going on to college; and the net emigration of high-school graduates leaving Maine to attend out-of-state postsecondary schools.

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For comparison,http://pharmacy.isu.edu
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Idaho State University's Nontraditional PharmD program is listed by the Princeton Review as one of the top 3 distance learning graduate schools in the United States.


http://www.mackinac.org/article.asp?ID=112
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The experience of the last state to approve right-to-work- Idaho in 1986--may be especially instructive. . .
One statistic that argued powerfully to the contrary was this one: the 20 states which had right-to-work between 1975 and 1985 created a whopping 92 percent of the nation's new manufacturing jobs-more than 10 times as many as were created in the other 30 states.
. . .Since right-to-work passed in 1986, the Idaho economy has gone from being the laggard among western states to being the nation's fastest growing. In every year since 1986, per capita income has risen at rates well above the national average. New business start-ups are breaking records, and business failures are sharply down.

Right-to-work is not anti-union and it does not lower overall wages. It is pro-choice on the issue of union membership. It can lead to greater productivity and higher wages by reducing costly and inefficient union work rules. It encourages investment in new jobs and invigorates the economy with new incentives for entrepreneurship.

Percentage of each state's nonagricultural wage and salary employees who are union members, 2001 (lower is better).  I think this is probably a better measure of union power than right-to-work laws.

South Dakota - 6.0%
North Dakota - 7.4%
Idaho - 7.8%
Wyoming - 9.3%
New Hampshire - 9.7%
Vermont - 10.9%
Delaware - 12.5%
Maine - 13.0%
Montana - 13.5%
Alaska - 22.1%

Source: http://www.laborresearch.org/tables/states_density.php
original listing in quote by Dr. Sorens was re-arranged into ranking by me.

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2003, 03:28:26 pm »

Berry, William D., Evan J. Ringquist, Richard C. Fording, and Russell L. Hanson. 1998. "Measuring Citizen and Government Ideology in the American States, 1960-93," American Journal of Political Science 42, 1 (Jan.): 327-48.
The above article introduced a new measure of citizen ideology by state, and it has since been updated through 1999. They've also created a state government ideology measure, but what is of interest to the FSP is the ideology of our state's citizens. This measure is apparently considered the state of the art in American political science.

The measure gives year by year scores for citizen ideologies based on vote percentages for liberal or conservative candidates, as graded by the ADA and AFL-CIO. (It's a lot more complicated than that, but you have to read the article to understand the whole process.) In recent years "liberal" in these grades basically means "big government." Lower scores are more conservative, higher scores more liberal - thus, for the FSP, lower scores are better.

The authors note that the scores in smaller states are less stable because of measurement error (given small congressional delegations). Thus, I've averaged the scores from 1992-1999 to get a good sense of average conservatism in our states in recent years. Here are the scores:

Idaho - 26.3 (best)
Alaska - 33.1
Wyoming  - 33.9
New Hampshire - 36.3
Montana - 43.1
South Dakota - 46.8
Delaware - 52.1
North Dakota - 54.7
Maine - 64.5
Vermont - 74.2 (worst)

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2003, 03:51:32 pm »



Strength of the Teachers' Unions
A measure of the strength of the National Education Association which the Free State activists will be going up against in any effort to privatize schools, change the curriculae, cut back the tax funding for public schools, or any other move that the school establishment would view as a challenge to their monopoly power. The following refers only to NEA numbers.  Note that AFT "votes" are full time equivalents and thus the "voters" which could be allied against us may be many, many more -- nearly every part timer and substitute teacher.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mantonucci/archives/20020716.htm
http://www.aft.org/

Total teacher numbers is also a crucial factor for the FSP - just like total voter numbers. In Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, and Montana the teachers would outnumber the 20,000 Free State activists.  Just the 18,288 NEA membership in Maine would give 20,000 Free State activists a run for their money. When AFT numbers are added to the NEA membership, Alaska (13,560+) and Montana (14,194) teachers could give the Free State activists a hard fight. Teachers, especially union teachers, are activists - if for no other reason than they daily reach a large number of students and their parents. Remember too that the schools also swing a huge number of votes when spouses and parents are added to the weight the teachers, administrators and staff have. Yet their unending demands for more money can be defeated as we did three times in a row in our community (Leadville/Lake County in Colorado).

Note that the first category is the “best” from an anti-union monoploy standpoint.
The last category is the “worst”. How else to interpret these numbers is up to you.
Source:
http://www.nilrr.org/MonsterMonopoly.htm

Percent of K-12 employees in the NEA (2000 membership vs total employees)
(states with less than 1,000 AFT "votes" were omitted from the source for AFT numbers)

States That Do Not Authorize Teacher-Monopoly Bargaining or Forced-Dues      
38.30%   Wyoming (5,713 of 14,930)
       
States With Teacher Monopoly Bargaining, But No Forced Dues For Teachers      
36.10%   South Dakota (6,524 of 18,053)
37.60%   Idaho (11,132 of 29,613)
51.10%   Vermont (8,974 of 17,559)
51.70%   North Dakota (7,282 of 14,074) + 1,665 in AFT for total 63.6%
53.30%   Maine (18,288 of 34,301)
       
States That Authorize Teacher Monopoly Bargaining and Forced Dues      
40.80%   New Hampshire (11,834 of 28,974)
49.50%   Montana (10,621 of 21,477) + 3,573 in AFT for total 63.6%
53.90%   Alaska (9,892 of 18,342) + 3,668 in AFT for total 53.9%
60.40%   Delaware (9,239 of 15,290)

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Feel free to add more data in more posts.

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Re:Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2003, 04:04:52 pm »

Robert tipped me off to Tim Condon's new paper,
http://www.freestateproject.org/wyoming_20feb03.htm
in which Tim cited the RLC Liberty index.
http://www.republicanliberty.org/libdex/index.htm

Of course the RLC never mentions David Nolan, they just swiped his idea with their "libergraph".

I looked at the rollcall votes for last year, it looks like a good libertarian index although some of the votes are hard to understand, and I had one question about a vote to fund 5 school-choice demonstration projects to the tune of $50 million - the position of the compiler of this index was in favor of this program. I have a problem with this for two reasons: not in the Constitution, and "school choice" includes such state education programs as charter schools. However most libertarian think tanks favor "school choice" as well, so the compiler is in the "think-tank mainstream" on this one (and they are all wrong if you ask me).

But generally the index appears to be a pretty reliable one, for us.

I had a problem with how to rate our states. First, how do you weigh senate vs house positions? Some of our states have two reps, some one. The states with two thus do not have everyone in the state voting for them. However I just averaged senate and house seats as if they were equivalent. The other issue is, do we want a most recent snapshot, or the whole 10 years of data he has? I opted to go the whole 10 year route, thus taking in more elected officials (some who are no longer there) and more roll call votes. This gives us more data points. The downside of course is that it may ignore recent trends, but oh, well! I have the little spreadsheet where I put this together if anyone wants to check my work.

Here are the ratings of Congresspersons elected in these states over the last 10 years, based on personal freedom. Higher numbers are better:

WY 67.4
ID 65.6
AK 64.0
NH 61.7
MT 57.0
SD 47.8
ME 47.5
VT 42.0
DE 39.3
ND 36.3

Here are the economic freedom ratings.

WY 79.2
NH 74.7
ID 72.3
AK 67.0
MT 52.4
DE 51.5
SD 50.0
ME 45.4
VT 32.7
ND 27.0

Here are both ratings combined, for a freedom rating:

WY 73.3
ID 68.9
NH 68.2
AK 65.5
MT 54.7
SD 48.9
ME 46.4
DE 45.4
VT 37.3
ND 31.6

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