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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #105 on: April 04, 2003, 11:15:46 am »

Would anyone like to write a second Idaho report for the website?  So far we have Phyllis' report, which is great, but several states now have second reports, and another perspective on Idaho would be advantageous.

I'll be glad to do it,  Jason.  Though I would like to have a collaborator, Varrin? Glen? .

I'm still a Wyoming fan at this point.  Lately, I even put Idaho third in my ranking.  But I could never get too excited about helping out with that last Wyoming report, (my apologies to FreedomRoad for not offering more help), but there's just something about Idaho that makes my heart sing . .   I don't feel inclined to hype Idaho at this point but I feel Idaho has just not been given its due.
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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #106 on: April 04, 2003, 08:33:15 pm »

Unfortunately I cannot help with a second Idaho report.

I committed to hiking the Pacific Crest Trail way back when the FSP was at hopelessly low membership levels. The start date for the hike is April 20th and I still have way too many things to do to get ready.

For those who are interested, a friend of mine will be hosting an on-line journal for me at:

http://tolstoyota.com/glenpct/

There is nothing posted to it yet but stay tuned! It should be an interesting adventure.
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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #107 on: April 04, 2003, 09:53:40 pm »

Glen,

Thanks for the URL.  I still haven't gotten the book.  I'm drowning in projects.  My wife's (old) computer is on its last legs so I had to step up my efforts to get her a new one (which means firing Bill Gates and hiring Linus Torvalds - no small task).  This has interfered with my LP activism, FSP writing and research, and lots of other things.  But there's a light at the end of the tunnel (yeah, it's a train allright).  I'll get to it eventually.

Exitus,

If you're interested in some collaberation, I could be game for that.  I'm still thinking an Idaho trip in June might be in order.  You'll be there by then, right?  Maybe we can do a 'first impressions' joint piece, complete with photography ;)  I have a commitment in June so, depenting on what kind of scheudle I get, I may only have a couple days there, but I'm sure we can figure out a way to make the most of it.  Between now and then, I'll be pretty busy and likly not around here a whole lot.  (I'll poke my head in every now and then just to stir the pot of course)

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #108 on: May 03, 2003, 03:36:04 am »

I thought I'd post this comment given the rather negative response we received from the Idaho governor's office this past week.

It's from a forum user at the Boise Weekly's website.  It's not much, but it's something positive:

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The free state agenda is very admirable. If Idaho is chosen, I might move back.

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http://www.boiseweekly.com/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=18&Topic=542

Someone posted the AP article on this forum, and the above was in response to it.

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100 VARIABLES, OVER 10 YRS - IDAHO FIRST!!!!
« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2003, 12:14:13 am »




 
FOLKS,

The National Center for Policy Analysis, in conjunction with the
Frazier Institute, entered into a relationship with Clemenson
University to measure the 50 states in relation to 100 variables
that indicate economic freedom, throughout the Nineties.

On a scale of 1 to 10, IDAHO CAME IN FIRST!!, with a score
of 3.92. Unlike others who select stats for their own purposes,
I will mention Wyoming and S. Dakota were runner-ups.

Again, though, New Hampshire was nowhere to be seen.

This was a much broader, much more in-depth study, over a
much longer period of time, than the forbes annual beauty
contest.

I'm getting damned cynical, though. I am startiing to come to
the conclusion that statistics, argument and evidence don't
count for squat.

As Lily Tomlin said, "No matter how cynical you get, it's
impossible to keep up".

Libertarian Larry

HERE'S THE LINK:

http://www.ncpa.org:80/pd/state/pd041499g.html



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Re:100 VARIABLES, OVER 10 YRS - IDAHO FIRST!!!!
« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2003, 11:25:35 pm »

This is the row called "EFI", already in the spreadsheet. Yes, Idaho is first in this index.

We also have two other comprehensive economic indices.

SBSI, the small business survival index, puts Idaho in 6th place among our 10 states.

EFNA, the one from Frasier Institute in British Columbia (available only in the big spreadsheet), puts Idaho again in 6th place among our 10 states.

Weighing the indices equally puts South Dakota in first place, Wyoming second (essentially tied with NH). DE is 4th, and Idaho ends up in 5th.
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Idaho Opposes the Patriot Act
« Reply #111 on: July 02, 2003, 03:35:07 pm »

Butch Otter who was Idaho's lieutenant governor for the longest time in Idaho's history and is now Idaho's U.S. Congressional rep. in Dist. 1, his last Democrat opponent declared in the her campaign, "His libertarian rhetoric has begun to wear thin and voters tell me they are suffering from “Otter Fatigue”, she gained only 38% of the vote.

Today, we have more news that Idaho's favorite politician is living up to his name as a libertarian...

Otter keeps fighting the Patriot Act
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Congressman says law sacrifices freedom for safety

"Otter was one of just three Republicans to vote against the measure, which was hastily passed in the weeks that followed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "

"Otter, who was warned against voting and speaking against the law by Majority Leader Dick Armey, hasn't backed off in his opposition to George Bush´s signature law. "


"... even some legislators are pondering a statewide statement. "

Otter said he supported these ideas, and that they help send a message to congressmen and congresswomen who voted for the Patriot Act but now “can´t defend it
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How much do you really know about Idaho?
A Free State for Idaho
Idaho Free State Facts
Ideologies in the States


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Re:Idaho Opposes the Patriot Act
« Reply #112 on: July 02, 2003, 03:56:41 pm »

Otter was one of just three Republicans to vote against the measure, which was hastily passed in the weeks that followed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001

Maybe Ron Paul was one of the others?  Who was the third?  Anyone know?

BTW, Glen is making his way along the PCT.  For any who are interested, here's his last update from June 11th:

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He called last night
from a motel in Ridgecrest CA (Kennedy Meadows area).  He's doing a little
last minute shopping and preparing for his next adventure going into the
High Sierras, still some snow up there so he is waiting for the right time
to start. Next stop is Independence then Lake Shore CA. Should take about 2
weeks to get to Lake Shore. He didn't know if could call between now & then.
He said all was fine.

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #113 on: July 02, 2003, 04:00:16 pm »

I hope Glen makes it back home in time to vote.  :-\
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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #114 on: July 02, 2003, 04:16:29 pm »

Jason,

I don't think he will if it closes in mid-August.  I suspect he'll be out until at least the end of August or into September (maybe the whole way through it).  I can *try* to find him and get a ballot to him (and back to you) if you want. ;)  We had talked about hooking up.  I didn't think I was going to be able to do that, but I wound up with some more time off at the end of July, so it could happen.  Plus, I'll be up in the Sierras then anyway.

I'll see if I can get a fix on him.  In the mean time, would it be too weird to mail me a spare ballot packet for him in the event I can get to him?

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #115 on: July 02, 2003, 05:20:41 pm »

Varrin -

  Of the two other Republicans to vote against PATRIOT act, Ron Paul was one and Bob Ney from Ohio was the other.

http://www.thejusticelobby.org/Home%20Groups/The%20Patriot%20ACT/votedagainst.html


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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #116 on: July 02, 2003, 06:08:44 pm »

Humm... Ney isn't a member of Paul's Liberty Committee.

But since I was looking, here's who is:

Butch Otter:  ID
Denny Rehberg: MT

That's it for FSP candidates...

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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #117 on: August 12, 2003, 09:47:39 pm »

Hello fellow Idaho supporters!

Even though I am still hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, I can't resist the urge to stirr up the pot by bumping this topic back up to the top.

It is very exciting to see that the membership is so close to the 5000 mark. I am looking forward to moving to the newly selected (western) free state!

Glen
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Re:Idaho Free State .com
« Reply #118 on: August 13, 2003, 11:08:37 am »

Glen,

Great to hear from ya.  Sorry we haven't had a chance to go hiking.  It occurs to me that the topic of this thread is the name of a website that, I think, doesn't exist.  However there *is* an Idaho website up here:

http://freethewest.us

Enjoy!

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Why In the World Would You Rank Maine over Idaho?
« Reply #119 on: August 14, 2003, 09:00:20 am »


Think about it. . .
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