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Dreepa

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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2009, 05:28:21 am »
Quote from: sj on April 26, 2009, 11:09:50 pm

Quote from: maxxoccupancy on April 24, 2009, 02:41:43 pm
A successful team is one where members identify problems, and where the entire team pulls together to solve those problems and move ahead.

That doesn't happen without top-down leadership.  No all-volunteer organization runs like that.  The way the FSP works is that individuals identify the problems they see and then work to fix them themselves.
It was to be top down in teams.. Max is right here.  When the FSP has 'team oriented' tasks.... we tend to be successful.. An individual working a project can also be successful but oftentimes the project is bigger than one person.

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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2009, 01:43:15 pm »
Quote from: sj on April 26, 2009, 11:09:50 pm
JeffersonSpirit, yes, there's a chart like that.  Go to the FSP main page and click on the counter in the top right.  That will take you to this page.

Looks like the charts have not been updated in a while.
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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2009, 01:46:43 pm »
Quote from: Rich on April 27, 2009, 01:43:15 pm
Quote from: sj on April 26, 2009, 11:09:50 pm
JeffersonSpirit, yes, there's a chart like that.  Go to the FSP main page and click on the counter in the top right.  That will take you to this page.

Looks like the charts have not been updated in a while.

I believe they're updated in real time.
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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2009, 12:53:47 pm »
Quote from: ronarchy on April 09, 2009, 06:49:21 pm
I'm just curious if alot of long time members are disappointed in the number of participants, early movers and friends? I assume most of you don't regreat moving to NH or being involved. Even with a small number of active people they can get alot done and built a strong community. But does it seem like it's dragging on and on?"Where's the damn 20,000 already?" Has anyone moved to NH and then left?

Some things I've read from the site.

"500 liberty activists move so far (and 1,000 pledged to move by the end of 2008)"
Irena Goddard, November 15, 2007

Free State Project Participation Guidelines
"Should the Project never attract 20,000 signers, the move shall be aborted."

Technically, the original pledge is meaningless.  The five year mark came and went, and we still don't have the first 10k signers, yet.  There are several key reasons that we don't have 20k movers (which I am not allowed to state publicly--PM me if you want to know why I think that it's this way), and it's unlikely that any of those problems are going to be addressed any time soon.

So, yes.
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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #64 on: April 29, 2009, 07:56:32 pm »
plus it all doesn't matter.

Give us 3000-5000 political types.
1000 non politicals.......
combined with the locals in each group
and we will make HUGE strides.
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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2009, 09:08:03 pm »
and actually i get excited every time I see the counters
over 9000 now and still at almost 20/week
just think if half of those people eventually moved here ... 10 people rolling in week after week

most of these guys that move are activists ... they are rockin and rollin
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Re: Disappointed in FSP numbers?
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2009, 11:14:23 pm »
The only issue that matters to me as a recruiter is one:

How can I get one more...
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