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Battlecry

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You wanted it, you got it
« on: April 06, 2009, 07:30:40 pm »

34 yo SWM, guess you could call me a "national libertarian".  And no, I don't enjoy long walks by the beach.
I believe in a small fed
no fed reserve
no IRS
no Draft,
no infringement upon the 2nd amendment in anyway shape or form
real state militias
I don't support our current foreign policy, I'm down with the non-intervention
Keeping as much of the decision making and funding for local things local and privatizing as much of everything as is humanly possible; to me in a perfect world the state/county is still the responsible party representing the people's interest as far as keeping competition (bids) in the marketplace for roads, city upkeep, stuff that we take for granted that the government should be providing.  Responsible, maybe, but provide?  I'm sure we all love the taxes and the service that we experience at the DMV, so no thanks.

As for local activism there's two things that I really wanna push for:
People don't go to jail for superfluous admin.  I live in Ohio currently and my State will put you in jail over a 100 dollar expired tags fee(tax).  That's just nuts.  Is it the same way in NH?  If so, I'd love to help put an end to it.  And yes, I'm tired of seeing non violent potheads getting jacked up sitting in county next to the guy that committed rape.  I'd like to see an end to all of that nonsense as it serves no purpose to society.
Campaign Fiance Reform.  And true reform.  I figure the only way to get the government back to listening to the public, is to drive a wedge between the large money donations of corporations (because their first responsibility is to their shareholders and not the public at large-and it's supposed to be that way, but not to the detriment of the people as we have today) and civil servants.  The business of America should not be business, it should be Liberty.

The reason for this wall of text is that I when I move to NH next year, I'd like to be near some folks that feel the same way.  Would suck to move all the way out the NH only to be 2 hours away from the folks I'd like to live ten minutes from.  I hear Keene is the hotbed for activism.  While I understand you can't change things from the couch, I'd like to be around some focused, goal oriented folks that are a bit on the pragmatic side.  I don't have anything against idealism, in fact, I want my actions to work towards liberty ideals, but I think you have to take baby steps.  So I probably wouldn't fit in with the anarchists and acts of civil disobedience.  Fact is, I value my liberty far more than I value my life.

Couple of non Porcist attitudes I've got that you might think are landmines:
Agnostic, but not angrily so
I don't subscribe to the Non Aggression principle, which doesn't mean I advocate violence, I just believe that sometimes, an MF'er just needs to have his ass kicked.  And that includes me. 
I'm all about corporal punishment
I believe in protecting the borders....but smartly so and my reasons are fiscal, not nationalistic
I voted for Bush.  Twice.  As much as I'm ashamed of that fact, I can't help wonder if it would have been any better the other way around....which cake do you want to eat from?  Socialism or Nationalism?
I eats meats, lots of it
I like guns, and no, I don't hunt
May or may not be a smoker by the time I get there.
If you don't have Jack Daniels, I'm not drinking.

I plan on making Porcfest this year and I'd like to meet some folks that could tolerate a character like yours truly.  So here's me reaching out.

A law is just an excuse to create a punishment.
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 08:55:19 pm »

Oh, we have a lot to discuss!  We will be sure to answer all your questions, and more, at PorcFest in June, sittin' around the campfire with your Jack Daniels and my Manchester Brewing Imperial Blonde ale.  Welcome, and get your ass out here as soon as possible.
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 02:46:51 am »

Welcome BC.... even with the list you posted here... you are welcome.
I am sure that some will 'debate' you on some issues... feel free to ignore them and still come to NH... there are many battles to be fought and we would love your help.

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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 06:41:14 am »

There are plenty of people here that you will agree with. If 10 minutes to those people is important, you should find them and then move near them. Many here don't mind a two hour drive to see different friends than the 10 minute ones.

I will say that a significant number of movers find that their issues and beliefs shift a bit after arriving and getting involved. Leave a little flexibility in there to accommodate any light bulb moments you may have.

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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 09:23:16 am »

You're fine by me, just the way you are.  Come to west lebanon, I need more help.

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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2009, 10:19:47 am »

Welcome to the forum.

The reason for this wall of text is that I when I move to NH next year, I'd like to be near some folks that feel the same way.  Would suck to move all the way out the NH only to be 2 hours away from the folks I'd like to live ten minutes from.

I'm not sure I could get to the house of another Free State Project person, any person, in 10 minutes.   Close... probably 4-5 in 15 minutes, though.  In any case, I've never considered this a drawback nor felt concern whether those closest to me physically are those closest to me philosophically.

One reason - your views are pretty mainstream in New Hampshire in general.

I just had a long talk about beer, guns, and the superiority of the home-grown New Hampshire product with my neighbor the other day.   Our political views as well as tastes are a pretty near match.  The neighbor on another side is a homeschooler.  And the third adjoining neighbor also has similar politics.  This is all in a fairly average town near the center of New Hampshire.  I did not select for a "free town" or a "free neighborhood."

Now that I think about it, it's probably best I don't live right next door to Dreepa.   He'd probably be over all the time, borrowing flour or ammo or something.   ;)

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Campaign Fiance Reform.  And true reform.  I figure the only way to get the government back to listening to the public, is to drive a wedge between the large money donations of corporations (because their first responsibility is to their shareholders and not the public at large-and it's supposed to be that way, but not to the detriment of the people as we have today) and civil servants.  The business of America should not be business, it should be Liberty.

A bit off on a tangent - but New Hampshire politics is likely very different from whatever it is that you are used to.  State Representatives are paid $100 per year (plus gas).  This lowers the stakes considerably.   Plus with 400 of them, how many large money donors are willing to spend huge amounts to buy a 1/400th of the house?

Fighting for these big issues on the national level seems (increasingly) futile.  But in local politics, it is possible for the efforts of individuals to make a real difference.  For that reason, you see a number of us in New Hampshire write off the Federal Government as a lost cause (at least for now), and focus on what we can do at the New Hampshire level.

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While I understand you can't change things from the couch, I'd like to be around some focused, goal oriented folks that are a bit on the pragmatic side. 


Take a look at the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance.  You can join before you move, and there are things you can do to make a difference even before you are in New Hampshire.

http://www.nhliberty.org/join


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I plan on making Porcfest this year and I'd like to meet some folks that could tolerate a character like yours truly.  So here's me reaching out.

See you there.
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2009, 10:53:41 am »

See you soon!
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2009, 11:36:05 am »

Plus with 400 of them, how many large money donors are willing to spend huge amounts to buy a 1/400th of the house?

I just have to say thanks.  I simply never thought of that before.  I've done a ton of complaining about the size of the house and the sheer number of LSRs they produce  every year.  Yet, something that obvious never occurred to me.  I may have to rethink my opinion.
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2009, 12:03:15 pm »

You want LESS government?

You're in the right place. Get over here and join us.

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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2009, 12:40:23 pm »

Welcome to the forums!
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 01:49:11 pm »

Welcome!  I think you'll find that your views will not be as unique as you think.  Let us know when you're arriving, I'm happy to pour the Jack Daniels.  By the by, my family relocated here from Michigan, you know, that state right next to you that wants to annex Cedar Pointe!
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 03:57:26 pm »

Now that I think about it, it's probably best I don't live right next door to Dreepa.   He'd probably be over all the time, borrowing flour or ammo or something.   ;)

Damn it I don't want neighbors.... but if you were my neighbor I would have my kids play on your lawn (and borrow your ammo)
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 10:32:29 pm »

Thanks to all for posting

I know my idea's aren't revolutionary, and neither are they set in stone, been having a epiphanies for the last couple of years as it is.  Changing old ways of thinking within myself to get to where I am today.  Used to be a rank and file Republican until I started figuring out that there's nary a difference between them and the Democrats and while they talked a good game they never actually stood for the Constitution or the Spirit of the Framers like they said they did.  That was just smoke and mirrors to keep me and mine fighting for them while they robbed us blind.

I welcome debate, we all agree that the current mode of government is corrupt, bloated, and inefficient, as far as I can tell, the only question becomes how far do you want to get away from it? 

And 10 mins is just a number, the more I look at it, I think I'd like to be fairly close to Concord, so's I can make the hearings.  I'll have to look up West Lebanon....not near Gaza is it (that was so bad I made myself cringe)?  All I need is a shack to live in with access to indoor plumbing, heat, a liquor store, a gun range, and I'd like to eat healthier so's maybe a farmer's market.  And oh yeah, strip club.  I used to bunk in between missile tubes on a nuclear sub, so I'm not too picky.

It'll be about this time next year I make my move, or sooner depending on the economy.  Thanks for the link to NHLiberty, Fishercat, and an outstanding bit about the 400 that I hadn't thought of either.

And to be completely off topic...has anyone ever spoofed the 400 a la 300?
Instead of being a bunch of buff spartans with spears, we could all be doughy white dudes with bad goatees and M249's.  What we lack in visual aesthetic we'd make up in firepower.  Again, I do not advocate violence, but I'll go anywhere for a joke.



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When they locked up the Social Democrats, I said nothing; I was, of course, no Social Democrat.
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When they came for me, there was no one left who could protest.
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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2009, 02:12:43 am »

I don't think that there are any strip clubs close to Concord.

If you live around 10-15 miles outside of Concord you have a range of living options... maybe even with enough land to have your own range.

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Re: You wanted it, you got it
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 10:10:32 pm »

I don't think that there are any strip clubs close to Concord.
If any free-staters open up a strip club, the rest of us could help ensure it gets business.
Same reason I drink Koncord Kombat beer :)
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