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Author Topic: Should we vote at some point to officially endorse a lp candidate for pres?  (Read 4113 times)

Eddie_Bradford

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It's quite a ways off but maybe at some point we should have a vote to offically endorse an lp candidate for president.  Here is a straw poll:

http://cass.molp.org/polls.htm

I know the board would probably not want to endorse any candidate but maybe we could have the members all vote and have and the "FSP membership" officaially endorse a candidate.  We could submit to each candidate a list of questions asking what they will do to promote the FSP and help it suceed and then conduct a vote.  Not to mention the fact that we could form a serious PAC or a bundling thing (like emily's list or whatever).  If we could get this organized then we would really be a force to be reconed with.  Also this might be a good way to see how powerful this group has become in the libertarian community.  Thoughts?  Comments?

-Eddie
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BobW

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Hi Eddy,

I'm a newcomer here so perhaps I missed modifications to the FSP site.

I have no interest nor do I want to be affiliated with any political party as per my participation here.

The FAQ is explicit: "We do not endorse candidates or legislation."

I will move to a selected state and plan to seek an elective office.  As of 6 May 03 it will not be via the LP.  Better than the LP is a large grinding stone or an albatross.

BobW
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Eddie_Bradford

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Ha okay not alot of support so far!  I know alot of people don't like the national LP they're corrupt or we'd better not having anything to do with them what-so-ever.  Also BobW you have a great point that there is no way that we could have a vote to officially endorse a candidate by "the FSP" or by "the membership" since when people sign up it explicitily states we don't supports cadidates or legilsion (This is despite the fact that we are no longer seeking 401(c)iii status which would technically allow us to engage in political activity).  But even if you hate the National LP surly there are lots of people who would still think there is value in having a presidential candidate go around the country talking about Libertarian ideals even if they are associated with the 'evil' national party (which not everyone thinks is evil).  Also if this presidential candidate speaks at say 100 venues and mentions the FSP in their speech it would be an awsome way to get the word out.  So I'm not trying to get the FSP to endorse anything or trying to speak on behalf of the membership, I'm just saying with so many people we could easily form voluntary associations where we engage in political activity that would be helpfull to the FSP.  I still think it would be acceptable to have a poll about which one of these candidates you support for the LP pres. nomination any non-political website (such as slashdot) does stuff like this all the time and would be no big deal.  I just think people to quickly write off anything and everything the national LP says or does as though they are worse than socialists or something.  Clearly the words that come out of these candidates' mouths are pro-freedom and much more so that the Socialists, Green, Dem, or Rep parties.  Anyway please post any further thoughts or ideas or interests in what I've discussed or in forming a separate voluntary political association of members.

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BobW

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Hi Eddie,

Volunteer associations for publicity could prove counterproductive. It is creating a superstructure that the FSP infrastructure can not absorb as yet.  

Critical committees and important leadership positions do not exist as of now.  Perhaps I missed them as a newcomer here but I'd accept corrections.

People I know aren't writing off the national LP "too quickly". Decisions were made with slow and deliberate calculations.  

Draining the swamp is wrong and a waste of resources if the mission is to leave the lowlands and travel through the mountain pass before winter sets in.

Here's a litmus test.  If you were given 3-4 assignments in support of FSP projects, would you have the additional time and energy to complete an additional publicity project?

A better quality publicity will get generatedafter  groups  meet in person and develop friendships.  Otherwise the infrastructure will never get developed.  

To relocate is a major task.  FSP needs developmental work in several categories first.

BobW
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SandyPrice

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Not every state runs the same LP candidate.  Harry Browne was a write in on Arizona's ballot because another candidate ran.

I will not endorse any LP candidate unless I like his platform.  We had Barry Hess run for Governor in AZ and he spoke what I wanted to hear, so he got my vote.
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BobW

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Hi Sandy,

Your point is well taken and understood.

Still, it goes beyond that.  

I'm considering moving and when residency accrues, to seek an elective office in my new home.

If I ever got hooked up with the national LP-with a sole exception possibly being Alaska-I'd get no support from here. My "friends" wouldn't even write a letter to the Commissioner of Elections, Helena, a letter to the Editor in Boise, ... let alone assist with funding.  

The LP made mistakes.  They are not liked by many.  There are good reasons for this dislike.

The rest comes down to the strategic objective; getting as many people as possible into elective and appointive office.  

The New Yorkers get to use their New York Conservative Party and New York Liberal Party for augmentation.  These 2 third parties lend extra value.  The LP does not.

BobW
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The rest comes down to the strategic objective; getting as many people as possible into elective and appointive office.  
The New Yorkers get to use their New York Conservative Party and New York Liberal Party for augmentation.  These 2 third parties lend extra value.  The LP does not.
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In the lingo of financial analysts, you could say those names
"add stakeholder value". On another thread I was advocating that
the FSP register both "Independent-Republican" & "Independent-
-Democrat" as parties  and so ensure use of those names, and
convey more meaning to somebody who doesn't know what the name
'Libertarian' means, nor votes for party tickets.

Having read your remark about NY, "Independent-Conservative" &
"Independent-Liberal" could work as well.
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BobW

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Hi Max,

That's definitely something to explore.  I don't know enough about the registeration process to comment.

I meet MANY people who keeps themselves tagged as Democrats although they have nothing except rejection of the national platform in their personalities.  Still, they call themselves Deomcrats.

BobW
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No no no no no! We are not a branch of the Libertarian Party!
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