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Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« on: December 02, 2007, 10:45:40 am »

(my english isn't my first langage but i would like talk only in english for practice)

I used my little brain since a while for take a decision. Right ! It's cool man but ... what is the association/organisation (or maybe someone) for take more informations related job/house ? That's the final question, let me begin at the start xD

I'm young (24 years old) and i'm in a situation where i can choose the way of my life. I tried to live in a country like france but my opinions about politic/economic and social was changed since a while. I have a dream : live in a free place with free people, liberty has no price.

I tried to work in some various jobs with a good success but i'm not happy to be in a "controled place" like all the possible places in europe... and certainly all around the world.

Recently i had all my time for make reflexion and i searched a specific place with no success ... and when i thought to stop my research i found the FSP. What was my criosity when i read all the documents i can found about it. Politic, society system and more. Is it a dream ? not a dream ? is it a sect ? not a sect ? a military movement ? Omg not all that, it's something for free people with a respect of the neighbor, help another free people and more. I was sleepless one week after all the documents i ate like a big eater.

A question was coming in my head too many time : "i take a bag and i come without more preparation ?"

I think it's a strange idea now because i'll need to find a job and a house. Finaly i think (i think too much ?) I'll need a little of preparation.

As what i said before in my post "i have ALL my time" and i would like participate actively in FSP. I know there will some complications at start (or not ?) but i took my decision. I'll come ! More fast it is, more happy i'll be and more fast i'll help with my little hands.

I'm a worker, i need to use my brain all the time or i'm unhappy but i won't use my brain in a strange and "controled" place. Am I an UFO ?

If someone can help me for have more informations, i'm on ! My bag can be ready in one month maximum (real, not a trip). I won't keep my past life in a big bag. I'm not a lazy guy but i'm always happy and ready for joke and i love competition.

What can i do for continue ? What is the road ? Someone can show/explain to me ?

I already sent an e-mail to info.at.freestateproject for try to have a communication with the actual members. The forum is maybe the best solution.

You need someone ? I'm on ! Thank you for your ideas and a big thx for the actual work !

(i used no translator, sorry if you found some errors)
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 12:58:02 pm »

Glad to read your post.  I'm also 24 and yeah, the Free State Project is definitely for real and it is a great time. 

There are many places to live in NH and I believe there is a fairly large French / French Canadian community in NH.

As for work, it wasn't clear from your post what your skill set is. 

You might consider visiting for either the NH Liberty Forum event in January or the Porcupine Festival in June.
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 02:16:59 pm »

From a seller formation i continued on a network job in a young company. After that i begun a simple and easy job in an office for finaly terminate my road in a little computer shop (a special place in paris with too many computers shops).

The problem isn't the job here, the problem is the mentality. The "open spirit" you can read on the tourists papers about paris is only ... a tourist thing. I never saw a close mentality like this and the conformism is incredible. If you think different : don't say your opinion !
(and i visit some countries with no better results)

I compare this with the sheeps, the mass people think like this, you need to think like this or you'll become a black sheep.

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You might consider visiting for either the NH Liberty Forum event in January or the Porcupine Festival in June.

It can be a good thing to come for take a previous look but i don't want just visit : i would like participate directly without more reflexions. I use my little brain too many time for more reflexions, now it's maybe the good time for action :)
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 05:00:13 pm »

Great.  You should probably contact one of the people or post on one of the forums at http://www.freestateproject.org/community/welcomewagon/ then.
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 08:11:04 pm »

I have some questions after my last researchs :

Is it a good idea to live for beginning in a motel room until i have a job for have better ?
Generaly, a newcomer like me find a little job for begin fast ? (my accent isn't good i think for work directly with clients)
Does exist another possibilities i missed during my research ?

If people will explain the best solution is to come and see directly with a good success rate i'll be happy too.

Maybe a friend (woman ~40 years old libertarian) will sell his house in france to buy a new one in NH. All that would change my plans because we'll live in the same house for beginning. It's not evident for her and i prefer organize my coming alone.

Certainly need a general opinion from last newcomers, i  begin to search on the differents forums and tomorrow i'll try to contact someone from the list. My principal priority is to help FSP (worker or volunteer).

Thank you for the advices.
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 01:05:15 am »

I too lost a lot of sleep when I first discovered the Free State Project, and for the same reasons you have stated.

As for housing: if you just need a room for yourself, I think a motel would be a bit expensive.  There are a few Free Staters that rent rooms.  I can't tell if there are any vacancies, but you could probably find out if you post over on this forum .

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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 02:50:02 am »

It is nice to see another Eurozoner thinking in the same direction...

If we are more, then your lack of New England accent will not stick out...
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 07:24:38 pm »

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Is it a good idea to live for beginning in a motel room until i have a job for have better ?
Generaly, a newcomer like me find a little job for begin fast ? (my accent isn't good i think for work directly with clients)
Does exist another possibilities i missed during my research ?
Don't be so hasty, arpa_nico.
First off, do you have a visa? If you come into the US on a Visa Waiver Program with the intent to immigrate, you could receive a 10-year ban from entering the US. If you enter on the VWP and then attempt to adjust your status (in order to become a permanent resident), you could still get a 10 year ban if that application is not approved and you don't get your green card within the 90 days the VWP is valid (which won't happen).
Secondly, unless you are planning on staying illegally in the US and working illegally, work is pretty much out of the picture. You have a lot more thinking and work you need to do before you can even begin to think of moving to the US. Don't waste your money on a plane ticket if you will only get turned away at the Point of Entry, or realize after you get here that you will only have to go back home because you don't have the proper papers.
If you would like to spend a long time in NH (or the US) to see if immigrating is something you would like to do, you could always apply for a six month tourist visa at the US embassy.

I would definitely love to see more Europeans getting into the Free State Project (is my husband the first one who's made the move??), but I want to see them do it, legally, and without a chance of getting kicked out.
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 03:47:13 pm »

If you have money you can just ignore the government and move here like all the guys from Mexico. :)
Get enough money together ... come here to visit ... rent a room or apartment ... find some work ... if you like it stay. :)
We live in a police state, but I would guess you will enjoy it here with us and out of even more socialist France. 8)
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 05:23:44 pm »

(is my husband the first one who's made the move??)
Keyword husband - aside from getting one of the few jobs deemed 'desirable' by the immigration authorities, finding someone to marry is the only viable method to immigrate legally.

Finding someone willing to live with libertarians who speak like Arnold Schwarzenegger amongst the 1.2 million people living in NH is difficult enough, and then there's the Ron Paul fanaticism, the guns, etc etc :P
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 11:23:35 pm »

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Keyword husband - aside from getting one of the few jobs deemed 'desirable' by the immigration authorities, finding someone to marry is the only viable method to immigrate legally.
Depending on the country, you can also do the diversity visa. I'm pretty sure Norwegians and French are still allowed for that.  Or seriously--become a nurse! :)
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 11:10:28 am »

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Keyword husband - aside from getting one of the few jobs deemed 'desirable' by the immigration authorities, finding someone to marry is the only viable method to immigrate legally.
Depending on the country, you can also do the diversity visa. I'm pretty sure Norwegians and French are still allowed for that.  Or seriously--become a nurse! :)
I thought the 'diversity visa' was a lottery. Something like a few thousand visas out of many millions of participants. :-\

And I hate people, so I don't think I'd be a good nurse. :P
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Re: Hello from France/Paris - i took a decision !
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2007, 11:22:59 am »

Yea, it is like a lottery and a lot of people apply, but you can apply every year and with the current system, is probably your best chance at getting a visa.

Who knows, maybe the system will change?

Of course, if it does change, that will also be a very bad thing: any time the immigration bureaucracy changes anything causes everything to be messed up immediately, so changing anything seems like a very bad idea for people already stuck in the system.
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