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tom ploszaj

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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2007, 08:50:06 pm »

Well as a FSP supporter I believe that if a Christian can place their hand on the Bible or a Muslim on the Koran and swear to uphold the NH and US Constitutions then they will be welcome with open arms by FSP membership.  Hopefully to help in amending the constitutions and laws to allow people to be freer than they are now. 
 
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 08:54:34 pm »

P.S.
Sorry I just read a similar post from a Christian feeling that FSP is not Christ friendly.   Remember anyone can post on here.  You need to come and meet with FSP members, maybe this Jan or June and the annual FSP sponsored events
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2007, 07:45:11 am »

randy762ak,

Please do me a favor, and don't post here anymore.

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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2007, 03:18:38 pm »

Thanks everyone for the positive responses. :-)   (And the trolls do make themselves obvious.)

I did a bit of online searching & found there was a mosque being built in Manchester, and that there are about 3000 Muslims in NH. There were some protests about the new mosque, but it didn't sound bigoted but more like people concerned about traffic, parking accommodations and things like that. I also read there were interfaith groups, and Christians, Jews and others were volunteering to help construct the mosque.  Definitely a positive sign that people are working together, of all faiths. (When I say faiths, it doesn't have to mean religious... even atheists have a faith/belief of their own)

Thanks for the links also -- I have checked them out as well.

I think the point some of you made is right, and as long as people focus on the primary issue of liberty, that everyone has a right to freedom & liberty so long as they do not harm others... then there should be no (or little) racism or bigotry. Ideally anyway. 
People who are fighting for liberty just have to remember that that right to freedom belongs to everyone, not just someone with the same beliefs they have. :)

The main issue is education. When people are educated about other cultures it just makes it so much easier to be tolerant and understanding.  It took my family years after I became Muslim to understand even some of the basics of Islam and that, yes, we are peaceful people, just like the average American who wants to live in peace, raise a family, and feel safe in their homes & neighborhoods. That's why the FSP is so appealing! :-)


** On a side note, some people listen to the fanatics' diatribe against Muslims, and might actually believe what people say. I have yet to meet a Muslim who isn't concerned about liberty & freedom for everyone. There are a ton of Muslims who speak out against violence & terror, but the media doesn't really talk about that too much because current US foreign policy needs Muslims to be viewed as the enemy, just as blacks were, and the Vietnamese, Koreans etc at different times. It seems most people here are educated enough to realize that it's just a bad time right now, and negative stereotyping is the norm.
Also, some Muslims I have met just don't have the energy to focus on speaking out. Why? They have relatives dying of hunger; family & friends stuck in places where they are in states of malnutrition & worrying about the survival of newborn babies; worried about bombs coming down on them and wiping out half their families; they have relatives to help who now have children whose legs have been amputated or they are blind or critically injured or lying in comas; or those who used to live in oppressive regimes where you are trained to remain silent, worrying about loved ones left behind maybe being tortured & killed. The list goes on. There are a lot of reasons some Muslims don't speak out publicly, though quite a few do.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2007, 01:07:50 pm »

Parking can be a real problem in Manchester, especially when something's going on at the arena. They completely failed to build the parking garage which would have gone along with the arena, and so you get cars stacked in every nook and cranny downtown. Fun to watch, not so fun to drive in. So this is definitely a concern.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2007, 05:10:26 pm »

Parking can be a real problem in Manchester, especially when something's going on at the arena. They completely failed to build the parking garage which would have gone along with the arena, and so you get cars stacked in every nook and cranny downtown. Fun to watch, not so fun to drive in. So this is definitely a concern.

The event-parking situation is apparently why Pine Street and several other nearby streets are all signed residential parking only, permit required. Getting a permit to park as a resident requires a background check on your vehicle (that you’re ticket-free, the registration is up to date, &c.).

I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide whether or not this is just an example of the typical positive feedback loop of government incompetence, or if this was intentional on their part.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2007, 07:50:04 am »

Parking can be a real problem in Manchester, especially when something's going on at the arena. They completely failed to build the parking garage which would have gone along with the arena, and so you get cars stacked in every nook and cranny downtown. Fun to watch, not so fun to drive in. So this is definitely a concern.

The event-parking situation is apparently why Pine Street and several other nearby streets are all signed residential parking only, permit required. Getting a permit to park as a resident requires a background check on your vehicle (that you’re ticket-free, the registration is up to date, &c.).

I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide whether or not this is just an example of the typical positive feedback loop of government incompetence, or if this was intentional on their part.

I bet you that it was intentional on their part...  How else are they going to fund their beuracracy (sic)?
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2007, 10:23:35 pm »

Well, as a Heathen, I welcome you with warm arms! Live and let live is both mine and many free stater's philosophy and way of life. Muslim, christian, buddhist, baha'i, whatever.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2007, 08:45:56 pm »

People are people but for the record - CAIR can take a HIKE!

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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2007, 05:48:24 am »

randy762ak,

Please do me a favor, and don't post here anymore.

Thanks!

Ahhh - another lover of free speech

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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2007, 12:24:33 am »

I would guess that this forum is more muslim-friendly than the average forum in america.

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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2008, 12:13:51 pm »

I don't have a problem with muslims whatsoever. . . so add that to your tally of who's anti-muslim and who's pro-muslim.

Personally, I think a lot of us agree, that it could be a martian living next door, and I'd be happy to have them as my neighbor. . . that is unless they were trying to get welfare or voting to raise my taxes.   In fact, I might wander over there to see if I can barter for some cool lazers guns and stuff. 
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2008, 05:36:28 pm »

randy762ak,

Please do me a favor, and don't post here anymore.

Thanks!

Ahhh - another lover of free speech

All I see is someone asking someone else to take a hike, and leave the forum.

People are people but for the record - CAIR can take a HIKE!

Y’know, like you just did.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2008, 06:56:14 pm »

randy762ak,

Please do me a favor, and don't post here anymore.

Thanks!

Ahhh - another lover of free speech

All I see is someone asking someone else to take a hike, and leave the forum.

People are people but for the record - CAIR can take a HIKE!

Y’know, like you just did.
Beat me to it J.
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Re: FSP Project doesn't seem very Muslim-friendly...
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2008, 07:11:44 pm »

Hey, it's cool.  Anyone advocating freedom is good.  Heck, even potential liberty advocates are cool.

I have taken ships out to the middle east, and the people there are actually some of the coolest people anywhere.  All of the media stereotypes are bs.
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