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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2007, 07:40:08 am »

Hello. My second post on the FSP forum after having learned about it an hour ago. :) Good to hear that it's legal to carry a firearm on your hip in NH. I'm in Arizona, same deal here. Are there any restraints on owning semi-auto "assault weapons"  (  ::) ) in NH?

Nope.  The Brady Campaign report on NH is here: http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=nh

NH has GREAT gun laws (and porcs are working to make it better by making it easier to carry in your car).  The Brady Campaign (one of my least favorite anti-freedom organizations) gives NH a D-  ;D.  If you're known by your enemies, I'd say NH is in good shape.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 08:42:07 am »

Hello. My second post on the FSP forum after having learned about it an hour ago. :) Good to hear that it's legal to carry a firearm on your hip in NH. I'm in Arizona, same deal here. Are there any restraints on owning semi-auto "assault weapons"  (  ::) ) in NH?

No.

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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 10:32:53 am »

After a recent trip to AZ, I was told that it is illegal to carry a firearm in any business that serves alcohol.  Unaware of this, my first stop upon arrival was at a sports pub where I met up with family and had a couple beers and a burger.  The place was pretty busy, as it was Friday at about 4:00 (well past quittin' time for outdoor labor in the summer).  Nobody - including those that dined with me - gave me any odd looks or commented that I had a gun on my hip.

When I heard about the law (a good week after I returned to CA), I was surprised to hear about the statute.  Hell, I don't think CA even has a law like that!

From accounts I hear about Taproom Tuesday, NH doesn't have any crazy laws like this.  However, there is work to be done there.

I look forward to working on gun right infringement reform when I get to NH.  For example, I would like to see the concealed weapons laws repealed.  The criminals ignore the rules and the law-abiding citizens can get a shall-issue permit, so it's just a waste of taxpayer dollars administering 'permits.'
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2007, 11:25:50 am »

From accounts I hear about Taproom Tuesday, NH doesn't have any crazy laws like this.  However, there is work to be done there.


NH has the fewest restricted places for firearms carry in the nation - only courtrooms IIRC.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2007, 01:34:10 pm »

From accounts I hear about Taproom Tuesday, NH doesn't have any crazy laws like this.  However, there is work to be done there.


NH has the fewest restricted places for firearms carry in the nation - only courtrooms IIRC.
And then of course the federal restrictions. NH's carry permit isn't draconic enough to exempt NH permit holders from the federal disarmed victim school zones.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2007, 04:29:52 pm »

After a recent trip to AZ, I was told that it is illegal to carry a firearm in any business that serves alcohol.  Unaware of this, my first stop upon arrival was at a sports pub where I met up with family and had a couple beers and a burger.  The place was pretty busy, as it was Friday at about 4:00 (well past quittin' time for outdoor labor in the summer).  Nobody - including those that dined with me - gave me any odd looks or commented that I had a gun on my hip.

When I heard about the law (a good week after I returned to CA), I was surprised to hear about the statute.  Hell, I don't think CA even has a law like that!

I can't comment on the law perttaining to alchohol sales, but private concerns/ establishments do reserve the right to prohibit firearms. Of course, in California you'd never be able to carry the weapon on your hip in the first place without a CC permit.

Don't get me started... ;)
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2007, 05:51:59 pm »

After a recent trip to AZ, I was told that it is illegal to carry a firearm in any business that serves alcohol.  Unaware of this, my first stop upon arrival was at a sports pub where I met up with family and had a couple beers and a burger.  The place was pretty busy, as it was Friday at about 4:00 (well past quittin' time for outdoor labor in the summer).  Nobody - including those that dined with me - gave me any odd looks or commented that I had a gun on my hip.

When I heard about the law (a good week after I returned to CA), I was surprised to hear about the statute.  Hell, I don't think CA even has a law like that!

I can't comment on the law perttaining to alchohol sales, but private concerns/ establishments do reserve the right to prohibit firearms. Of course, in California you'd never be able to carry the weapon on your hip in the first place without a CC permit.

Don't get me started... ;)


Wait until you come to NH. You will walk into firearm stores and start drooling. You'll be like a kid in a candy store.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2007, 12:00:53 am »


I look forward to working on gun right infringement reform when I get to NH.  For example, I would like to see the concealed weapons laws repealed.  The criminals ignore the rules and the law-abiding citizens can get a shall-issue permit, so it's just a waste of taxpayer dollars administering 'permits.'

One benefit of the CCW is reciprocity with other states. I understand your sentiments but would rather have a permit in a shall issue state that is recognized in other states where it would be more difficult to get one. For instance, With only AZ and FL, one can carry concealed in the following states:

Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Alabama, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming

That's 33 states with 2 permits. Well worth the concessions.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 12:11:57 am »


One benefit of the CCW is reciprocity with other states. I understand your sentiments but would rather have a permit in a shall issue state that is recognized in other states where it would be more difficult to get one. For instance, With only AZ and FL, one can carry concealed in the following states:


Alaska has the best of both.  You don't need a permit (Vermont style carry laws), but you can get one if you want in order to have reciprocity. 

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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 02:20:08 am »

I can't comment on the law perttaining to alchohol sales, but private concerns/ establishments do reserve the right to prohibit firearms. Of course, in California you'd never be able to carry the weapon on your hip in the first place without a CC permit.

I had the AZ statute linked to me over on the OpenCarry.org forums.  Look at the second post in this thread.

Also, CA does not prohibit carrying a firearm on your hip; in fact we have 3 people in the state that open carry.  (There might be more that do, but us 3 have discussed it on the forums.)  It's very rare because the powers that be have done an excellent job tricking the public into thinking it is illegal.  And it is very tricky to navigate the laws - unloaded in city limits, 1000' from schools, etc.  One guy had his CCW revoked because the cops saw him open carry and the sheriff didn't like that.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2007, 02:26:23 am »


I work in Executive Protection in CA and I can't even get a concealed permit. My county (Alameda county, 1.46 million peoples) has a .013% issuance rate with only 192 permits issued throughout the entire county. Ridiculous. In other words, if you want to go on a shooting rampage, this is probably one of the best places to do it.

Disclaimer: I don't want these next few remarks to sound callous because I very much value human life. I'm just trying to make a point. In no way would I ever really consider taking such action or supporting actions like it. People that shoot unarmed civilians to express their dementia are psychopaths of the worst sort. They deserve to be blasted down the very instance they start following through with these kinds of actions.

All the rampage shooters you see in the media weren't that good. I'm ex-military, had elite training, expert marksman my whole career, won a marksman competition in the service, Special Forces, LRRS, and Scout Snipers all tried to recruit me, you get the point. Just hypothetically speaking, if I ever decided to go psycho and start blasting people in CA, I GUARANTEE I could get into the low triple digits in kills within the first five minutes with more than a few Law Enforcement Officers included in that total. Oh, and a ten round mag cap wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. God help CA if it ever happens.

When I think about that, it does a few things. First, it makes me practice my disarms more. (But c'mon, who really wants to bring a fist to a gun fight?) Two, it makes me want to leave. Three, it disgusts me because if that was to happen, the socialist scum that infests CA would make sure there were LESS firearms among the law abiding citzens. I just can't see how this makes sense to anyone. I'm awed by the stupidity that infests this place.

I'm signing the statement of intent tonight by the way and planning to have my feet on the ground in NH by June 1st, 2008.

Here's a scarry fact about criminals. I read this report (I can't remember who put it together, you could probably google it) where they reviewed numerous shootings involving officers and criminals serving time. The criminals had a higher hit percentage than the officers! They then interviewed inmates and officers that had been in shootouts and they found that criminals practiced a good deal more than officers. The criminals had a perception that police officers spend tons of time practicing when they really don't.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2007, 02:38:11 am »

All the rampage shooters you see in the media weren't that good.

They don't have to be good when they're shooting at fish in a barrel.

I'm a college student, so I'm constantly entering the most popular shootin' barrell - a public school campus.  Luckily, there is no law against carrying a pocket knife (in fact they have no length restriction on folders).  So, I'll be bringing a BIG knife to the gun fight - better than hiding in the corner IMO.

You should check out OpenCarry.org and see what we got going on there.
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2007, 03:37:43 am »

All the rampage shooters you see in the media weren't that good.

They don't have to be good when they're shooting at fish in a barrel.

I'm a college student, so I'm constantly entering the most popular shootin' barrell - a public school campus.  Luckily, there is no law against carrying a pocket knife (in fact they have no length restriction on folders).  So, I'll be bringing a BIG knife to the gun fight - better than hiding in the corner IMO.

You should check out OpenCarry.org and see what we got going on there.

You may have a knife but you are still toasted oasties if you're not very highly skilled and can't get within 3 feet without getting capped. If you intend on staying in CA and continuing to carry a knife, I'd invest in some Tabamina Balintawok training. Id also learn several of the Krav disarms as they are pretty much the best in my opinion. You have to think about what you would do if a gun was pointed in your face and you haven't yet pulled your live blade.

If you aren't super quick, have an extremely effective economy of motion, and haven't practiced the disarms/attacks a thousand times under extreme stress, I wouldn't even try it. You'll get killed and maybe get others around you killed. You best bet is to run your ass off.

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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2007, 08:42:00 am »


One benefit of the CCW is reciprocity with other states. I understand your sentiments but would rather have a permit in a shall issue state that is recognized in other states where it would be more difficult to get one. For instance, With only AZ and FL, one can carry concealed in the following states:


Alaska has the best of both.  You don't need a permit (Vermont style carry laws), but you can get one if you want in order to have reciprocity. 

I live in Alaska and this is the first time I have heard of this. Could you please point to your sources for verification?
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Re: question about firearms laws
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2007, 12:04:05 pm »

If you aren't super quick, have an extremely effective economy of motion, and haven't practiced the disarms/attacks a thousand times under extreme stress, I wouldn't even try it. You'll get killed and maybe get others around you killed. You best bet is to run your ass off.

Again, in the classroom setting, we're fish in a barrel.  2 of the 4 classrooms I'm in this semester don't even have windows to bail out, and there is nearly 0 cover - classes use fixed (bolted to the floor) tables or desks with a 6"x12" plywood top.

The more I think about it, the more appealing it is to just carry concealed without a permit...
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