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Your thoughts on handguns, choose the best answer

Guns are good, I have one(or more), I carry one(or more)
Guns are good, I have one(or more), but why carry one?
Guns are fine, I have (or will have)one(or more)
Guns are fine, but I wouldnt own one.
I dont care eighter way.
I dont like them, but I wont force others to not have them
I dont like them, and Ill take a political stance
There should be no question, Nobody should own a gun unless its for hunting.
Nobody should own a gun, they are just too dangerous.

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J’raxis 270145

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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2007, 11:13:08 am »


I think people who carry can check their guns at the door, no? So presumably such a person picked it up on the way out.

LOL, give it a try.

I’ve only been in a courtroom once, for jury duty in Massachusetts, but I seem to remember a sign next to the metal detectors to this effect.
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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2007, 02:52:16 pm »

I don't see how. If a 'vigilante' really wants to kill a criminal, he can simply wait until the prisoner is being transferred from the courthouse to the jail, or when he gets out on parole, or snipe him in the prison yard from a 1/2 mile away etc. Private property is obviously a different case but when you start saying that it's ok to restrict firearms in this public location, you only open the floodgates. Next will be schools, then airports, banks, libraries and so on. Then certain calibers and soon we're right back where we started. It doesn't say "shall not be infringed except in a courthouse'. Besides, if you were in the court as an employee or a juror or an observer and some nutcase came in firing, would you want to be disarmed? Or isn't that the exact time that the right to defend yourself and others would be the most important? 

When I read the restriction regarding carrying in courtrooms, my first thought was that was what it was intended for.  As sjhipple mentioned there's alot of emotion in courtrooms.  Yes, some nutcase could come in firing, either to gun down the defendant, the judge, jury or members of the public viewing the proceedings.  I don't support restrictions myself, I just understand that there are some places that it may not necessarily be appropriate.  Even with a restriction against carrying in the courtroom, the same nutcase could simply wait outside and start shooting.  The difference is minor, and I'm sure there's not going to be complete agreement on all issues when it comes to guns.

If someone hurt one of my children, I would probably be one of those "nutcases". I pray I never find out.
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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2007, 03:41:09 am »

Problem is: if you can't carry into the courthouse, the guy waiting for you outside knows you're not armed.

I think people who carry can check their guns at the door, no? So presumably such a person picked it up on the way out.

Here in CA, they'd probably shoot you (OK, maybe just arrest and charge you with a felony) at the door for even having one.  I wasn't aware the courts in NH offered gun-checking service.  If so, then that would be helpful.

Yes, NH courts do allow citizens to check their guns. The list of places that are off-limits for NH concealed carriers is very short:
1. Courtrooms (courtrooms, not courthouses).
2. There is no Number 2.

As for courts being "safe zones", I'm reminded of the Tyler courthouse shooting, just two hours from where I sit. The entire courthouse was a "gun free zone"; no problem: the killer just waiting for his unarmed victims to emerge.

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My concern is that if you say, "it's an emotional place," then we're opening the door for more places where emotions can run high.  Let's think of other places where emotions often run high... town hall meetings, protests of any sort, sporting events, etc.  Those who would disarm us surely have an extended list.

Very true. And in many states, those places are off limits.

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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2007, 08:37:01 am »


Yes, NH courts do allow citizens to check their guns. The list of places that are off-limits for NH concealed carriers is very short:
1. Courtrooms (courtrooms, not courthouses).
2. There is no Number 2.


You still want to walk softly at the various places the federal government has claimed for its own.  Manchester Airport comes to mind.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2007, 01:01:57 pm »


Yes, NH courts do allow citizens to check their guns. The list of places that are off-limits for NH concealed carriers is very short:
1. Courtrooms (courtrooms, not courthouses).
2. There is no Number 2.


You still want to walk softly at the various places the federal government has claimed for its own.  Manchester Airport comes to mind.

And don’t forget post offices, social security offices, and the federal “school zone” crap.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2007, 01:20:28 pm »

Federal offices have an exemption for a "lawful purpose" - but I don't think anyones had the stones to take them to the mat over that yet.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2007, 04:47:14 pm »

You still want to walk softly at the various places the federal government has claimed for its own.  Manchester Airport comes to mind.

Walk softly and carry a big gun. But not through the TSA checkpoint unless you know how to sneak it through.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2007, 10:14:01 am »

Drive to Denver and fly from there, I hear they miss 90% of all contraband.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2007, 09:24:00 pm »

Drive to Denver and fly from there, I hear they miss 90% of all contraband.

And if they don't, throw a water bottle in for good measure  ;D
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2007, 06:27:50 am »

Drive to Denver and fly from there, I hear they miss 90% of all contraband.

And if they don't, throw a water bottle in for good measure  ;D
This is true. If you want to take guns or hand grenades on board, just carry bottled water and tubes of tooth paste. They'll be at it like vultures and forget all about the destructive devices.

True story.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2007, 07:03:54 am »

This is true. If you want to take guns or hand grenades on board, just carry bottled water and tubes of tooth paste. They'll be at it like vultures and forget all about the destructive devices.

True story.

That seems somehow familiar.
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« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2007, 01:56:09 pm »

This is true. If you want to take guns or hand grenades on board, just carry bottled water and tubes of tooth paste. They'll be at it like vultures and forget all about the destructive devices.

True story.

That seems somehow familiar.
I recently got taken to the side because I hadn't stored my dangerous deodorants and tooth paste tubes in a plastic bag, because as we all know, a plastic bag renders the otherwise lethal tooth paste innocuous.

Before the 'liquid explosive' hysteria madness, I got frisked after forgetting to take of my uniform boots (they make the detectors beep) despite traveling in the military uniform and carrying the military ID. What has happened to a nation when it no longer trusts its protectors? Our 'national guard' is no longer permitted to keep their issue weapons at home either.

When the state doesn't trust its citizens, it's a case for worrying. When a state doesn't trust its own conscription force or its own militia, it's time to tell them off big time. It's such a shame noone here wants to do that, everyone loves our insanely bloated social security system too much to do anything about the status quo. I remember arguing with a retarded Californian socialist on these boards who thought we were much better off because we had a multi-party system. They're all the same over here too. There's the choice between 'statist' and 'more statist'.
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Re: Your gun standpoint!
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2007, 09:52:19 am »

When a state doesn't trust its own conscription force or its own militia, it's time to tell them off big time.

No State has ever trusted its conscripted troops.  And with good reason.  Conscription is slavery and sometimes slaves rebel.
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« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2007, 02:55:34 pm »

When a state doesn't trust its own conscription force or its own militia, it's time to tell them off big time.

No State has ever trusted its conscripted troops.  And with good reason.  Conscription is slavery and sometimes slaves rebel.

If a country is willing to recruit troops it does not trust, and to recruit them by force, it is immoral and does not deserve to exist.

It's too bad I'm alone over here thinking this.
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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2007, 04:35:54 am »

On the other hand it was pointed out to me today that water is a very convienent way to transport two highly combustive materials hydrogen and oxygen.  8)
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