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Keyser Soce

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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2008, 03:12:06 am »

Responsible.... just another euphemism for big government telling us what's good for us or worse yet, self-righteous moralists using the government to force their ideas of responsibility on us. Personally, I don't think eating at McDonald's is very responsible, you might have a heart attack while driving and kill me.

The sick thing is that these same people are driving around hopped up on scripts but that's ok cause the gubment signed off on it. Valium, Vicodin, Perkodan, Perkisette, Oxycontin, Adderoll, Wellbutrin, Ritalin, Prozac and on and on. Bunch of bullshit if you ask me. Life is risk. You manage your own and I'll manage mine. Think the roads are too dangerous? Stay off them, take a defensive driving course, buy a safer car and more insurance. Just leave me alone already.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2008, 12:32:16 pm »

Actually, I think responsible is just that....responsible. I am very careful not to drink a lot when I go out - because it would be irresponsible to drive if I had too much to drink. I would not want to risk other people's lives and property because of my irresponsibilty and I would hope that they would have the same respect for ma and my property.

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible. So is driving when you can barely stay awake. The impairments might be different - but they are still impairments.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2008, 01:18:18 pm »

Actually, I think responsible is just that....responsible. I am very careful not to drink a lot when I go out - because it would be irresponsible to drive if I had too much to drink. I would not want to risk other people's lives and property because of my irresponsibilty and I would hope that they would have the same respect for ma and my property.

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible. So is driving when you can barely stay awake. The impairments might be different - but they are still impairments.

Have you ever smoked pot?
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2008, 05:32:15 pm »

Actually, I think responsible is just that....responsible. I am very careful not to drink a lot when I go out - because it would be irresponsible to drive if I had too much to drink. I would not want to risk other people's lives and property because of my irresponsibilty and I would hope that they would have the same respect for ma and my property.

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible. So is driving when you can barely stay awake. The impairments might be different - but they are still impairments.

This is all true. My earlier point was that “driving while ________” shouldn’t be illegal. Only if actual harm results, should ________ come into consideration when determining restitution or meting out punishment. It’s up to each individual to be responsible for his own actions: In the same way that the government shouldn’t be responsible for taking care of me by giving me your money, they shouldn’t take care of me by telling you when you can and cannot drive.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2008, 02:18:46 pm »

Actually, I think responsible is just that....responsible. I am very careful not to drink a lot when I go out - because it would be irresponsible to drive if I had too much to drink. I would not want to risk other people's lives and property because of my irresponsibilty and I would hope that they would have the same respect for ma and my property.

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible. So is driving when you can barely stay awake. The impairments might be different - but they are still impairments.

Are you careful not to eat at McDonalds? I didn't think so. Since we don't agree on what is responsible, I of course would object to any attempt to force me to abide by what you happen to consider responsible. I see that you ignored all of the script impairments. How many of these do you take? Do you talk on the phone while driving? None of my business? It's also none of your business whether I smoke pot and drive.

To clarify, if you are suggesting that individuals assess the risks involved with certain behaviors and take responsibility for their actions and the effects of those actions, we agree. If you are suggesting that government should in any way be involved in determining what behaviors are responsible and forcing people to live up that code (not to mention robbing me blind in order to enforce it) than  we disagree.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2008, 06:15:44 pm »

Actually, I think responsible is just that....responsible. I am very careful not to drink a lot when I go out - because it would be irresponsible to drive if I had too much to drink. I would not want to risk other people's lives and property because of my irresponsibilty and I would hope that they would have the same respect for ma and my property.

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible. So is driving when you can barely stay awake. The impairments might be different - but they are still impairments.

You're rather petite.  It is probably irresponsible for you to drink and drive at all 
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2008, 08:21:28 pm »

By responsible I mean responsible.  I believe in responsible gun ownership, personal responsibility for one's actions, and responsible driving.  The pot smoking community has yet to develop a consensus on responsible use, or to publicly promote this idea.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2008, 08:27:00 am »

Neither has the booze drinking community, although there is a lot of information about how much booze an individual can drink per hour per pound of weight.  Because it is illegal no research has been done, nor, information published  for Pot.
If half the population suddenly started smoking Pot, they would never be able to keep up, much less catch up to the damage done by booze.  Some of you are commenting about a subject you know nothing about.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2008, 08:56:06 am »

  Some of you are commenting about a subject you know nothing about.
This is the FSP board Lloyd.. what do you expect?
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2008, 10:03:07 am »

Well...............Its not the O list ;D
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2008, 01:21:16 pm »

Neither has the booze drinking community, although there is a lot of information about how much booze an individual can drink per hour per pound of weight.  Because it is illegal no research has been done, nor, information published  for Pot.
If half the population suddenly started smoking Pot, they would never be able to keep up, much less catch up to the damage done by booze.  Some of you are commenting about a subject you know nothing about.

The main reason there is little data on marijuana intoxication is due to the fact that THC concentration varies so greatly depending on the plant, growing conditions, 'manufacturing' methods, etc: usually between 5%-15%.  Alcohol content is very easy to determine, so it's easy to predict the effects on a person.

Now, if pot were legal we might see more consistency in THC concentrations.  Ideally, society would prefer the most potent form available.  The real hazard with smoking marijuana is all the damage done to the lungs.  More potent marijuana would require less to be smoked, reducing risks of lung damage, cancer, etc.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2008, 04:09:17 pm »

The strange thing aboot decriminalization is that the general public actually seems to want it, but so many of our state reps just laugh it off.  I recently testified on the gas tax/ toll increase bill and suggested that decriminalizing marijuana would save money and increase excise tax revenue, alleviating the need for increased tax rates.  Surprisingly, this proposition seemed to be taken fairly seriously by state reps and others in the room.

I also suggested letting the bars stay open until 3am, as Mass does, and got only one muffled laugh.
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2008, 06:39:29 pm »

I read a blurb that a study in the UK has just come out saying that marijuana related ER visits were way up since they reduced penalties for possession. It said they would consider raising the penalties again.

I am not good enough at searches to have found anymore about it. Really curious, though.

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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2008, 08:51:17 am »

I also suggested letting the bars stay open until 3am, as Mass does, and got only one muffled laugh.

Probably because this is a state for people who "do stuff", not all night partyers.

Quite a lot of the workforce appears to be up by 7 a.m. - you should try it sometime  ;)
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Re: Marijuana tolerance & culture in NH
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2008, 01:08:57 pm »

Smoking pot and then driving, IMO, is also irresponsible.

Why?  Potheads seem to drive better than average.
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