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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 04:06:15 pm »

I dropped out of computer science after my freshman year.
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2007, 08:51:31 am »

Yeah count me in too! However moving to the biggest democratic fascist dictatorship seems less appealing for each day. However Europe is just as bad but a democratic communist dictatorship  :-X

So either way I am screwed, however in Europe, Sweden at least I don't need to get persecuted by the police for walking down the street as they are too busy filling out papers. Nor do I have to be persecuted for not having the delusions of supernatural gods.

The only thing US, NH have worth moving for is the freestaters gathering of liberty minded people creating a much more pleasent social atmosphere and the constitutional system where I own the government and not the other way around even though that is violated on an hourly basis.  :-X

The world makes me really depressed, I am persecuted for my believes in freedom and lack of delusions. Globally there are fucking retards pointing guns to my head to make me do as they wish. I fucking loath ape-shitastic the two previous generations that have the highest reponsibility for creating this sickening society. I deteste delusional people who is only filled with fear and hatred against me for not being as irrational as they are. :'( The world doesn't want me and I really find no fucking joy in life, nor hope of a better future.

Lord Metroid, if it weren't for the Free State Project, I would tend to agree with you.  I too hold previous generations accountable for the current state of affairs, and I too am free from delusions about omnipotent benevolent or malevolent deities running my life (or pseudo-afterlife).  But we have the FSP, the one hope, in our lifetime for liberty.  We can stay in our depressed state, or rechannel that energy into getting freedom lovers from Europe and everywhere else to New Hampshire.  It's our last, best hope for freedom (and mental/physical health)

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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2007, 08:58:41 am »

In Europe, at least in Germany, a degree in Physics is considered a degree in Computer Science. Certainly so if it was Theoretical Physics (which includes computer simulations). Is it the same in the US? I daresay, the job experience also counts something in my case - but does it for the Immigration official?

Browning,

It occurs to me that Dean Kamen, inventor of the Segway and many other cool technologies, might very well find your skills in physics and computer science highly interesting, especially if you're creative.  He's a New Hamshire resident, as is his company, and according to Wikipedia moved to NH because of the "Live Free or Die" on the license plate; and owns an island where he's declared an independent state (in jest), separating from the US with its' own humourous currency.  He sponsors contests to promote math & science professions to young kids.

Dean's company: http://www.dekaresearch.com/

Wikipedia (with details on his island, "North Dumpling") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Kamen

If you're interested in invention, he might just sponsor you on a work visa

Matt
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2007, 06:30:11 pm »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2007, 10:41:29 pm »

Randy,

That's like saying, I'm worried that Free Staters will move up from Massachusettes and bring their bias in favor of taxes. A libertarian is a libertarian, whether they come from Sweden, Japan, or Iowa.

Most Europeans who are interested in the FSP and who visit NH, want to go shooting. Most Europeans have a bias against firearms, which is one reason that the few who value freedom over there are willing to move across an ocean to acheive liberty.

All the movers come from more restrictive states on gun laws, except maybe those in Vt and Alaska. I've notice that they are all pro second amendment.

Your concern is quite silly and a bit offensive.
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2007, 09:05:35 am »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!

You could have a similar worry that Europeans, at least the Swiss, would bring their bias toward using force to force you and others to carry guns as a pseudo obligation to protect "society".  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

Let's promote freedom lovers to come to NH who truely support the free choice of people to bear arms, and don't infringe on other's rights to make that choice freely - whether forcing against or in favor of arms.

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2007, 10:21:44 am »

Citing freely the German gun law:
"The possession of firearms must be in general restricted to goverment agents, because the goverment must have means to induce the population to follow the law even if the law is not supported".
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2007, 11:05:13 am »

There was a rumor that computers existed when I was a freshman
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2007, 12:07:13 pm »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!

That is my concern as well....  Most europeans have been living in socialism for a long time.  Are there truly EU citizens that
are for small government???
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2007, 01:55:27 pm »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!

That is my concern as well....  Most europeans have been living in socialism for a long time.  Are there truly EU citizens that
are for small government???

Most Americans got their education from the TV. Are there truly US citizens that can think for themselves?
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2007, 01:58:56 pm »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!

That is my concern as well....  Most europeans have been living in socialism for a long time.  Are there truly EU citizens that
are for small government???

Most Americans got their education from the TV. Are there truly US citizens that can think for themselves?

I see you have been watching too much TV.  Don't get pissed off at me because you're stuck in a socialist hell hole.
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2007, 02:00:39 pm »

I see you have been watching too much TV.  Don't get pissed off at me because you're stuck in a socialist hell hole.

I don't have a TV. I'm not pissed off at you because I'd be stuck in a socialist hell hole but because you suggested that Europeans could not think for themselves.
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2007, 02:11:44 pm »

Nice twist on my words lib...

How does asking if there are EU'ers who believe in small government, translate in to EU'ers not thinking for themselves...

Take that anger you have and start your swim now.  I'll rent you my basement until you get on your feet.
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2007, 03:29:09 pm »

I sat next to a guy from Holland yesterday.  I'd trade 5 of my neighbors for one of him.  He would have 5 houses to choose from.....but, he wouldn't be in NH
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Re: Motivate europeans to move in NH.
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2007, 08:09:32 pm »

I worry Europeans will come and bring there BIAS against firearms --as they have in Britan and most other EU contries!!

That is my concern as well....  Most europeans have been living in socialism for a long time.  Are there truly EU citizens that
are for small government???

*sticks hand up* Much like the earlier comment about gun control it is flat out wrong.

Firstly what you have to understand is the way laws are generally passed in the EU. There are the popularist laws (things that the moral majority want) and we know better laws (laws passed by the law makers because they think they know better then we do but people are either against or neutral about them). The vast majority of the anti-liberty laws fall under the 2nd type of laws. In the UK the current fascist gun control laws were brought in as a kneejerk reaction to a couple of shootings a decade ago (an interesting tidbit is that guncrime in the UK rose much faster after the law was passed and is now at stupid levels in some areas of London) and people simply didn't care either way. The smoking ban is another good example where the health secretary decided that people in work places need protection from us filthy smokers even though so many brit's smoke, most of the public didn't care but the nay's did outweigh the yay's and still it was made law anyway. The fuckers couldn't even give us our own rooms in pubs, because barstaff need to enter the rooms in order to collect glasses, and this was my major motivation for signing the first 1k - I love smoking, I love beer and I love both together in a pub/bar, I don't believe anyone has the right to slimply take that away from me in the name of protecting barstaff who choose to work there.

One thing I would also point out is that many of us come from EU states with much more relaxed social laws then in the US. We have nudity and swearing on TV and drug laws that either don't exist or are not enforced. Also living under a socialist state with nationalised health, stupid amounts being spent on welfare and various nasty schemes (in an effort to get people out of cars the government here is buying people bikes right now) gives one a much better opportunity to see the evil in action and thus be much more repulsed by it. Do you really think we would bother going through all the trouble and expense of applying for a US visa, and it is a very time consuming and costly process, if we were not dedicated to the cause of liberty?
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