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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2006, 01:19:56 am »

If anyone's interested, there is aparently at least one person in Europe who wants to start a European FSP. I would think that this would dilute things but who knows. The chosen state if and when that effort gets anywhere would be Switzerland or Estonia I would guess.

I doubt this thing will ever get off the ground.  However, if it does, I doubt Switzerland will be picked.  It would be far easier for most Europeans to move to the state if it was a EU member nation and Switzerland is not.
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2006, 06:35:09 am »

If anyone's interested, there is aparently at least one person in Europe who wants to start a European FSP. I would think that this would dilute things but who knows. The chosen state if and when that effort gets anywhere would be Switzerland or Estonia I would guess.

I doubt this thing will ever get off the ground.  However, if it does, I doubt Switzerland will be picked.  It would be far easier for most Europeans to move to the state if it was a EU member nation and Switzerland is not.
Not necessarily. Switzerland is a part of the Schengen agreement, every european country involved in the agreement can give out 'schengen visas' to their citizens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement. They're very closely aligned with the EU and there's no isolationist policy of sorts, with the obvious exception of not joining the EU itself.

I don't think any European country with the exception of the tax-havens and the former USSR/warsaw pact states would be eligible for libertarian politics.
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2006, 08:07:32 am »

If anyone's interested, there is aparently at least one person in Europe who wants to start a European FSP. I would think that this would dilute things but who knows. The chosen state if and when that effort gets anywhere would be Switzerland or Estonia I would guess.

I doubt this thing will ever get off the ground.

They said that about us, too.  :)
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2006, 08:36:23 am »

If anyone's interested, there is aparently at least one person in Europe who wants to start a European FSP. I would think that this would dilute things but who knows. The chosen state if and when that effort gets anywhere would be Switzerland or Estonia I would guess.

I doubt this thing will ever get off the ground.

They said that about us, too.  :)
The European FSP is aiming to claim land for an entirely new state, which is very unrealistic.
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2006, 02:39:08 pm »

If anyone's interested, there is aparently at least one person in Europe who wants to start a European FSP. I would think that this would dilute things but who knows. The chosen state if and when that effort gets anywhere would be Switzerland or Estonia I would guess.

I doubt this thing will ever get off the ground.

They said that about us, too.  :)
The European FSP is aiming to claim land for an entirely new state, which is very unrealistic.

Depends on what land they are looking for, and under what circumstances. For instance, the island of Rockall has been the subject of past attempts at sovereignty by Greenpeace. Sealand has established itself, but IMHO (according to inside info I've gotten) its royal family has become a bit pussy footed in asserting their sovereignty and in expanding their citizenship, perhaps due to threats from the US and Britain, esp given they live most of the time on British soil.

The EFSP could find a eurostate that is incredibly bankrupt, and offer to buy a long term lease (like a Hong Kong, Macau, Gitmo, Canal Zone types of agreement) of a certain territory for autonomous development. Of course, they need the capital for this sort of plan...
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2006, 05:55:19 pm »

Hi.
It has probably been touched on before, but what are the chances of non US-citizens being able to join and move to NH?

Personally, I am a Swedish citizen, I left socialist Sweden for the UK a couple of years back, the UK is slightly better, but far from free, so I am starting to believe that NH is really the only chance for liberty in my lifetime.

So what are the chances of non US-citizens being able to come to NH? I know there is a Visa process involved, but are there any free staters that a) have a business that could sponsor a visa and b) would be interested in doing so?

Personally, I work in IT, mainly with software development and architecture as an independent contractor. I'd say I am quite good at what I do and would probably be able to qualify for the skilled worker type visas.

Any thoughts and ideas would be immensely welcome..

Howdy, Long time lurker first time poster. I am also currently in the UK (by birth I am fraid) and have been signed up to the FSP for a long while now. Also work in IT (Arch/Devel too) and have been looking at the visa situation for 5 years now so thought I would add my 2 cents:

Work visa - Not a chance on the east coast. All the H1/H2 employers are on the bay so wrong side of the country (and also not a great deal better then the UK). Also you wouldn't be able to work as a freelancer under this visa (from what I am aware), freelancers only get temporary status.

Investment visa - The more money you have the better. If you can scrape together $250k and have a novel idea targeting an area with high unemployment should be relatively swift.

Marriage - Far and away the best. I am very lucky in that my wife is a US citizen and we shall be moving to the states in 9 months time. Not NH initially but by 2010 I shall be joining the ranks of the NH free staters :-)

Special ability - This is an interesting one as if you are good at self-marketing its a good route. They seem to give them out to anyone who is considered a "guru" in a certain area. i obviously haven't tested this myself but I would be very supprised if running a successful blog that got you speaking engagements and the odd book would qualift someone for this.

Whatever you decided to do good luck and it's nice to see someone else looking to escape the nightmare that is Europe :-)
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2006, 06:28:35 pm »

greap, welcome to the forum!  I'm happy to hear that you'll make it to the Free State by 2010.

I have to disagree with you on the "impossible to get an H1B" on the East Coast, though.  I work at a high tech company in Nashua, New Hampshire.  I assure you, there are numerous employees with H1B's or other work-based visas in my company.  I suspect it's the same at plenty of other high tech and biotechnology companies in southern and coastal New Hampshire and the greater Boston area.  You just gotta have "the skills to pay the bills" i.e. provide what the market needs. 
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Re: Prospects of non US-citizens joining?
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2006, 03:51:52 am »

I have to say I am somewhat supprised to hear that this is the case. I get approached relatively frequently (at least twice a month) with offers for visa based work but in the past year not a single one of those offers comes from the East. Almost all the job advertisements I spot seem to carry a "No H1B" flag too. I guess it just boils down to which sector you work in in the end.
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