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Prospective Activist
« on: December 19, 2002, 11:25:14 pm »

I am a potential free state participant. My mother was an immigrant. I have dedicated my adult life to military service.  I am two years away from being eligible to retire.  I was born in Louisiana.  I moved between California and Louisiana until I joined the Air Force.  Half of my career has been overseas and half in the Carolinas.  

I LOVE the United States of America.  I have no desire to align myself with anti-American people.  I do not want to pay taxes to fund bureaucrats whose only purpose is to dictate my lifestyle.  I am irritated that my taxes pay for Charles Mason’s upkeep.  It infuriates me that my elected representatives hate me.  Senators Barbara Boxer and Dianne Finestien have constantly voted against my interests.  I am a male.  I use tobacco.  I ride motorcycles.  I like the internal combustion engine.  I hunt.

My wife is not keen on moving to a cold climate.  
I am not a Libertarian.
Fire departments, schools and police departments are among the services I am happy to pay taxes to support.  But the services we pay for are not up to par.  
I am 100% for reforming laws holding people responsible for their actions.  No insanity plea, no heat of the moment defense.  You are responsible for your actions.
Selling drugs in liquor stores with severe penalties for selling to minors sounds like a good idea.  But I would think mandatory drug testing for certain jobs is mandatory.  Airline pilots, doctors, and law enforcement are good examples.  

I do not think tying the free state project to the Libertarian party is the most effective route.  I will continue to be a lurker until I personally check out all the states.  I have been spreading the word about the movement.  

I have been watching the site for months.  
The Constitution Of The United States Of America and the principles of the Declaration Of Independence need to remain central to the goals of the free state.

Reaper, if you want to recruit members carefully consider your words you have said many times…”you don’t belong here…”   Restricting these comments to racists and violent separatists might be more appropriate.

Maga Joule, your target indicates you are either looking over the sights trying to check your bullet strikes or flinching in anticipation of the recoil.
My telephone conversation with Jason Sorens alleviated my concerns that the free state project was a group of talkers undertaking a futile exercise.

A site map would be nice.

Ronney    
   

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Re:Prospective Activist
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2002, 11:08:19 am »

Hi Ronney - I agree with almost everything you say.  But think a little harder about the schools issue.  America didn't always have a socialized education system.  Socialism is one of the reasons our education is failing.  Check out this great organization advocating the separation of school & state:
http://www.sepschool.org

A site map would be nice.  We've been asking around for people willing to do this, but haven't gotten any takers.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2002, 11:13:56 pm »

Thanks Jason.  
It will be interesting to debate the schools issue in the free state.  
I noticed one of the dynamics of this project revolves around people who get very emotional about one issue or another instead of focusing on the goal.
Is there going to be a local event during the holidays?  Or is the GA January event the next one?

Ronney
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2002, 09:51:34 am »

There's a Christmas Eve meeting in Houston; I'll be there.  We just sent out a press release to Texas media.
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Re:Prospective Activist
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2002, 12:29:21 am »

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Fire departments, schools and police departments are among the services I am happy to pay taxes to support.

No one I know would ever stop you from purchasing fire services and police on the open market.  You are happy to pay taxes to support them, and that's fine, then you'd have no problem purchasing them if they were offered competitively on the market.  Myself, I'd probably hire a fire company but not a police company.  If something happened to me, I'd hire a PI to track down the guy.

What I resent is being offered one choice and told to pay for that choice or be locked in a concrete and steel building.  If I think I need a fire company or police department, I'll gladly pay for one.  If not, no one has any right to lock me in a box because I don't.

As to the issue of schools, I'm happy to pay for my schooling and my future children's, as well.  But I resent being locked in a box if I don't pay for someone else's schooling.  That's simple robbery.  Of course, you would be perfectly free to cut a check to the local private school every year, if you so desired.  No one would oppose you and most would applaud you.

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Re:Prospective Activist
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2002, 04:30:11 pm »

Ronney,

As another former member of the military, let me start by saying thank you for serving.

You say you're not a Libertarian but are you a libertarian?

This is a key question, from my perspective.

The primary function of the United States government should be, in my opinion, protecting citizens from foreign enemies. When I say foreign enemies, I mean groups and nations that have stated their intent to destroy us. That's really about all I want it to do. Federally mandated controls of everything else are unnecessary and have done little to improve America, at a huge cost that is nowhere near worth the purported payoff.

I'm glad you are watching us, and I hope you'll continue to participate and eventually make a decision to join us. I'll look forward to hearing more from you.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2002, 07:00:09 pm »

Palidrome wrote:

<<Ronney,

As another former member of the military, let me start by saying thank you for serving.>>

Thanks *both* of you for serving!
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2002, 07:01:12 pm »

 Palidrome wrote:

<<Ronney,

As another former member of the military, let me start by saying thank you for serving.>>

Thanks *both* of you for serving!

And welcome to the project, Ronney.
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