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Aaron

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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2003, 09:44:07 am »

A google search for 'industrial hemp plastic' drew many pages of results including this one:  http://www.friendlystranger.com/info/hemp/hempplastic.htm
If you are looking for more technical details, I'm sure you could find them.  I've just always been told by hemp activists that anything you can make with petroluem can be made (in a more environmentally friendly manner) with industrial hemp.  I have no reason not to believe them, so I've never investigated the technical details of the process.
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2003, 09:58:22 pm »

I just found out my biodiesel supplier is going out of business.  :'(

He says he could never break into the big leagues; no retailer ever wanted to mess with it (there is one place on the east side of Portland that sells 20% biodiesel mix). Apparently, there are better ways to make a dollar.

You have to be dedicated and have the long view to pull something like this off...
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2003, 11:33:56 pm »

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You have to be dedicated and have the long view to pull something like this off...
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You are absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2003, 11:39:07 pm »

Here is an interesting article on a related subject:

http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html


And here is a link to the company who owns the process:

http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2003, 03:43:08 pm »

One of the discovery type channels just did a special on alternative fuels where a guy with his own fleet of shipping trucks started his own refinery. If you buy The Emperors New Clothes you will find a section where it mentions that Hemp seed husks are a perfect source for Biomass fuels. If we can reach this trucker/refinery person I'm sure we could utilize inexpensive and quick growing hemp for cheaper Biomass fuels such as Biomass diesel.

 However I'm pretty sure the U.S. Govt will take exception to us "importing hemp" or pot from Canada if we were to utilize Idaho for the FSP. We are still part of the United States and a border with the ocean or another country makes us vulnerable to the 'criminal element", e.g. As cheap as it would be in a state where pot/hemp was legal the temptation to outsiders to take instate hemp/pot out of state to sell at high "blackmarket" prices would be too great and either the govt would establish a "Customs station" at our borders or (and this is the scary part) they'd intervene and make hemp illegal again in our state and then comes the raids all over the state and the kicking down doors, etc.
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2003, 03:22:34 pm »

I'm all for bio-mass diesel fuel but moreso if the biomass used is hemp.
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2003, 05:42:37 pm »

If you are interested in using biodiesel, or SVO in vehicles, check out the following links:

Making biodiesel

Biodiesel conversion kits

If you are willing to buy a 200 gal trailered ag tank and pump, you can get your raw materials for nearly free. And if you run yourself dry, you can always use regular diesel from the gas station.



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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2003, 01:46:27 pm »

Check out http://www.veggieavenger.com/ , http://www.greasecar.com/ and http://www.greasel.com/ for details about biodiesel and conversion kits for waste vegetable oil.
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2003, 09:50:44 pm »

As long as we're looking into interesting alternative energy sources, PowerBall Technologies has a technology for producing polyethylene-coated sodium hydride (NaH) pellets ('powerballs') that react with water to produce copious amounts of hydrogen, the byproducts being sodium hydroxide (NaOH) and probably a bit of heat.  

They have a rather complex business plan, but it starts with a process to extract sodium metal from sodium hydroxide derived from trona mineral in Green River, Wyoming.  They announced a letter of intent with FMC for this purpose.  The sodium metal is used to produce the sodium hydride, which goes into the powerballs.

www.powerball.net/business/goals.html

One gallon of compressed H2 at 3000psi is only a 204 gallons of unpressurized H2 delivered.  One gallon of powerballs, mixed with water, produces 1307 gallons of H2.  So, as a hydrogen storage and transportation medium, it looks promising.  The hydrogen generator is small and easily portable.  When the powerballs are used up, you have a vessel full of NaOH liquid, ready to give back to PowerBall for reprocessing into more powerball pellets.

http://www.powerball.net/process/hydrogen.html

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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2003, 03:45:19 am »

Hi Rhythm Star,

Re: Energy Sources

Re: Energy Politics

The technology is interesting but what got my attention was the mention of =trona=.

Green River, Wyomng is also mentioned, being the mine site.

In March I returned from PR China.  Trona is a PRC export to S. America and throughout Asia.  A target market is the US.

One of my Wyoming contacts lives in Rock Springs, next to Green River.  I'm hearing it is not a boom town area.

Can I get away with saying that these energy issues are 99% politics and not too much regarding the technical expertise?

Where you will witness my support to have a prosperous mining industry in the US, you will also hear my alerts that it won't happen until the political scenery changes.

No mine in Green River, WY can compete against China in the current situation.  For that matter, no mine can compete with what's going on in Port Arthur, Texas with the oil.

Energy is as politically loaded as Defense issues.

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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2003, 12:39:03 pm »

Okay--- I think using hemp oil in [Free State]'s biodiesel vehicles is a safety hazard.  How many stoners are going to burn their lips on the exhaust pipe trying to take a hit?   ;D
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2003, 08:35:40 pm »

I believe sulfur does not add lubricity to diesel, just soot. The process that takes most of the sulfur out of diesel also strips the lubricants. I am not an expert, but that is what I heard from a pretty good source.
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2003, 12:22:47 am »

>  I just found out my biodiesel supplier is going out of business.

This is because to make people switch en masse to a better product you really have to bring it out at a lower price then what they currently use.

If you could bring biodiesel down to something like $1.25  a gallon w/road tax...
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2003, 02:32:32 pm »

>  I just found out my biodiesel supplier is going out of business.

This is because to make people switch en masse to a better product you really have to bring it out at a lower price then what they currently use.

If you could bring biodiesel down to something like $1.25  a gallon w/road tax...
Shouldn't be too hard. Just get rid of the road tax  ;D
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Re:Biodiesel production facility
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2004, 10:06:18 am »

Look like NH (UNH) is already in the biodiesel game.

http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/index.html

Read this too:
http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
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