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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #180 on: July 31, 2003, 01:53:27 pm »

Number of Operating Public School Districts, Rank in Nation 2000-01

#12 Montana  466
#21 Vermont  287
#22 Maine    234
#23 North Dakota  229
#30 South Dakota  173
#31 New Hampshire 163
#37 Idaho         113
#43 Alaska         53
#44 Wyoming        48
#49 Delaware       19

C-21 Percentage Change In Average Instructional Staff Salaries, 1990-91 to 2000-01 (Constant S)
1 New Hampshire 13.7
5 Idaho 9.9
19 Delaware 3.0
20 South Dakota 3.0
21 Maine 2.9
25 US 1.1
32 ND -1.7
44 VT -5.7
45 MT -7.2
48 WY -7.8
50 AK -12.7


C-19. Average Salaries of Instructional Staff Percentage Of National Average, 2000-01
11 Alaska 109.0
12 Delaware 108.3
15 New Hampshire 103.4
30 Maine 87.5
35 Vermont 84.7
37 Idaho 84.0
45 Wyoming 79.3
48 Montana 73.3
50 North Dakota 68.8
51 South Dakota 68.7

Source: NEA
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« Reply #181 on: August 01, 2003, 02:52:13 pm »

I have attempted to compare the different fees, regulations and taxes associated with registering and titling vehicles in our candidate states, after spending about 8 hours doing research on this subject since February,  I still don't have much to offer because of the extreme complexity that is present in trying to compare states that approach it entirely differently.

Here are a few observations, so far:

Only AK, ID have no vehicle safety inspection requirements!  :)

WY only has the requirement upon registering a vehicle for the first time, (it is not recurring)

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DE, VT, ND have state-wide emissions requirements for registering vehicles.  :(

--Alaska, Idaho, Maine? do have limited emissions testing in certain populous areas of each state (AK = Anchorage and ,Fairbanks)  (Idaho= Ada County only)  (Maine= in place, but unknown Portland?)

 Though more researtch is needed, at first glance, Montana seems to be the most expensive, BY FAR for people who want to own a new or leased car in some counties, and quite cheap for people who want to own old 'junkers' throughout the state.

New Hampshire requires a tax that looks like it could be expensive at first glance, but no info could be found on-line for exactly how expensive it really is.  How expensive is it, NH residents?

In basic fees, most of our states seem quite comparable, (except Montana for new cars) though some states have additional taxes due every year and additional fees.

Not much information could be found on Wyoming since the DMV, per se is a county function.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #182 on: August 01, 2003, 03:03:40 pm »

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DE, NH, VT, ND have state-wide emissions requirements for registering vehicles.  

NH does not have any emissions requirements or testing.

I vaguely remember having seen a website somewhere that said we do, but that information is incorrect.

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New Hampshire requires a tax

What tax? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #183 on: August 01, 2003, 03:28:13 pm »


NH does not have any emissions requirements or testing.

I vaguely remember having seen a website somewhere that said we do, but that information is incorrect.


I read it on SEVERAL web sites, though if you say they were in error, O.K.  , I'll correct my post.  I did find this on the state web-site:
Chapter 207 - Relative to vehicle emissions control equipment and testing
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RSA 125-J:11 creates a committee referred to as the air pollution advisory committee, empowered to perform an ongoing evaluation of the effectiveness of the new vehicle emissions safety inspection program, to be performed by inspection stations. It also establishes an oxygen sensor testing and mobile source remote sensing pilot programs under RSA 207:6.

So, I guess you are right!

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What tax? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Again, could it be erroneous "helpful" web-sites?
""You must pay a resident's tax as well as a tax based upon your vehicle's current selling price."
--http://www.newhampshire.com/pages/relocationinformation.cfm

Also something on this webite (but not this page) http://www.ncsl.org/programs/esnr/tranrev1.htm#id

So, New Hampshire does not have any ad valorem taxes, it is a fee only?
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #184 on: August 01, 2003, 04:17:30 pm »

I found this
261:162 Taxation of Motor Vehicles Prohibited. – Motor vehicles owned or controlled by residents of this state shall not be taxed.

in http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/261.html

That site seems out of date, it mentions emissions, but that stuff was repealed.  See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/XXI.html

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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #185 on: August 02, 2003, 03:57:12 pm »

Components of Population Change July 2001 to July 2002
Net Migration Rate per thousand
NH 9.0
DE 9.0
ID 7.6
ME 7.3
WY 6.2
VT 4.6
AK 4.4
MT 1.8
SD -0.9
ND -6.2

Rate of Natural Increase (Births - Deaths) per thousand population

11.4 AK
7.7 ID
5.0 SD
4.5 DE
3.7 WY
3.4 NH
2.7 MT
2.3 ND
1.4 VT
0.5 ME


Source: Census Bureau
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Re:Zoos and Aquariums in the Candidate States
« Reply #186 on: August 05, 2003, 01:49:40 pm »

Zoos and Aquariums in the Candidate States

During the last election here in Fresno, California.  The voters voted on "Measure Z" for funding the zoos.  It was narrowly defeated, no sooner than it was defeated, the organizers started a new campaign for the next elections.  The zoo is an entity that seems not to know how to run at a profit.  Anybody who opposes the zoo gets accused of being anti- animals, anti-education, what have you.  For the Free State, how much better it would be to just not have one of these boondoggles to deal with!

AK- (2) Alaska Sea Life Center in Seward, Alaska Zooin Anchorage.  Both are owned by not-for-profit corporations that receive taxpayer money.  
The center in Seward receives money from the state through the University of Alaska Sea Grant College Program and federal money through grants from NOAA among others.  The Center in Anchorage has received various subsidies from the city and through federal pork spending http://hometown.aol.com/sundiii/myhomepage/newyork.html.
 

DE- (2) Seaside Nature Center major aquarium sponsored by Delaware State Parks, located inside of Henlopen State Park.  Brandywine Zoo sponsored by Delaware State Parks
12 other taxpayer- recreation sites where found nearby each of these.

 
ID- (1) Zoo Boise  Sponsored by the City of Boise, Parks and Recreation Department

ME  (1)  
--Maine Aquarium Maine Aquarium status unknown

Gulf of Maine Aquarium From the website: "At a time when most aquariums around the country have assumed a strong conservation stance, GMA's neutrality is unique and highly effective. . . "  :)
GMA aquarium receives grants from various federal agencies including NASA, NOAA, the State of Maine, among others.  It is owned by a non-profit organization.

NH (What with MA close by?)


ND- (0)

SD- (2) Bear Country U.S.A. Family owned and operated drive-through wildlife park in the Black Hills,
Reptile Gardens® Privately owned reptile zoo and tourist attraction

VT (0)

WY (0)
Score:

WY, VT, SD, NH, ND  all earn top score

  • ME Award the state some points for having a facility that is only sponsored by taxpayers per each research project instead of the whole facility, unless there can be found proof otherwise
  • ID should receive a low score for having a taxpayer-sponsored zoo, but sponsored only by the city of Boise
  • Alaska has two, one of which regularly receives federal pork money, the other funded by the state
  • DE gets zero for having entities funded by state taxes  
How I would rank them for a spreadsheet:
WY, VT, SD, NH, ND = 10
ME = 5
ID = 4
AK = 2
DE = 0



Here is some more insight into this post from FreedomRoad's Wyoming website (regarding South Dakota):

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Interesting note: The vast majority of the attractions in the Black Hills are privately owned.  To name a few: Black Hill Petrified Forest, Evans Plunge, Rushmore Waterslide, Black Hills Maze, Old MacDonald’s Petting Farm, Crazy Horse Memorial, Reptile Gardens, Bear County, Rushmore Cave, Stage Barn Crystal Cave, Crazy Horse Cave, Bethlehem Cave, Black Hills Caverns, The Flintstones Bedrock City, Mammoth Site, 1880 Train ride, Wild Horse Sanctuary, Wall Drug, and the 80+ casinos found in Deadwood.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #187 on: August 11, 2003, 12:11:39 am »

More stats from anti-gun groups.  The lower the score the better for OUR NEEDS.

Brady Campaign Gun Control 2002 Report Card
F  Maine
F  Wyoming
F  Montana
F+  Idaho
D-  Alaska
D-  Vermont
D  South Dakota
D  North Dakota
D+  New Hampshire
C  Delaware
http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/rc03/details.pdf

Open Society Institute in 2000
-10  Maine
-8  Alaska
-6  Montana
-5  Vermont
-5  North Dakota
-4  Wyoming
-3  South Dakota
-3  Idaho
0  New Hampshire
2  Delaware
http://www.soros.org/crime/gunreport.htm
http://www.soros.org/crime/Chart1.pdf
http://www.soros.org/crime/Chart2.pdf

Maine does very well in both.  NH and DE do very poorly in both.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #188 on: August 11, 2003, 08:52:18 am »


Maine does very well in both.  NH and DE do very poorly in both.

Well, I'm not sure if I would use the term 'very poorly' here, let's put a different perspective on that:
If you moved from Tennessee to New Hampshire, you would be going from a state that Soros gives one point to a state that scores 0.
To gain further perspective, the highest ranking state on either of these reports is Massachusetts, and Soros gave Massachusetts 76 points --that's sure a long ways from New Hampshire's 0 points; and Delaware's 2 points look a lot better than Maryland's 43 points.  I recognize though, that we were only talking about our candidate states here.  

One reason that the Brady Campaign 'promoted' NH and DE higher than our other states is that New Hampshire and Delaware both have Child Access Protection, or CAP laws, that make adults responsible if children gain access and use to a gun and then use it wrongfully.  The CAP laws that NH and DE have passed are actually pretty mild compared to many states, and not too far different from from libertarian ideals of accountability that might be prosecuted as a civil case in our other states without CAP laws.

The Soros numbers have not been without criticism:
What I don't like about the Soros measure is that it doesn't tell us what's being measured at all.  There are no categories, and we don't even know what the numbers mean.  I also think they might well have fudged the numbers to try to make low-crime states look as if they have more gun control than they really do.  We actually used the Soros measures at one time, but eventually discarded them as suspicious.


Personally, I think that the most objective step-by step analysis of all gun laws that can be found was not by one of our enemies of self-defense, but by an ally, in Boston's Gun Bible.  
Zxcv presented these numbers, as found in his revised April 2002 edition.  It is so easy to follow how he awards points that Zxcv was able to update recent concealed-carry legislation in Alaska into the matrix, as well as NH's recent HB414 strong pre-emption law.
Here is how our states rank, based on 10 different criteria through a detailed matrix:
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VT  99
ID  97
WY  93
MT 92
AK 88
ME 73
 NH 73
DE 69
SD 69
ND 61

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If you include the NFA break-down, the states rank only slightly differently:
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VT 109
ID 107
WY 103
MT 102
AK 98
ME 83
 NH 83
SD 79
ND 71
DE 69

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I give credit solely to Zxcv for first presenting this work here on this forum.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #189 on: August 12, 2003, 04:14:54 pm »

How States Rank in Cancer Fight From the Webmd website

(How nannyish is your state)
CA 10 XXXXXX ::)  (Most nanny state in nation)

ME  9 XXXXXX

DE  8 XXXXXX

VT  7 XXXXXX

AK  5 XXXXXX

NH  4 XXXXXX

ND  3 XXXXXX

WY  3 XXXXXX

ID  3 XXXXXX

SD  2 XXXXXX

MT  1 XXXXXX   :)


Categories: Access to care,coverage for clinical trials,Colorectal Cancer Screenings; Medically underserved,completed all steps for Medicaid option for Breast and Cervical Cancer Treatment Program; Tobacco Prevention,smoke free air,recommended excise tax,% of CDC min. spending

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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #190 on: August 13, 2003, 10:38:10 pm »

It seems to me that a perfectly viable option, should a state one prefers not to move to be chosen, is simply establishing residency.
  This might entail a temporary move, yes, but the free state is worth it.
  I'm just surprised state residency requirements were not included on the state comparison matrix.
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Residency Requirements for Voting
  The Supreme Court decision of March 21, 1972, declared lengthy requirements for voting in state and local elections unconstitutional and suggested that 30 days was an ample period. Most of the states have changed or eliminated their durational residency requirements to comply with the ruling, as shown. Note, for all states, in order to register to vote, an applicant must be a U.S. citizen, a legal resident of the state, and 18 years old on or before election day. Additionally, most states do not permit an individual to vote if he or she is a convicted felon currently serving time in prison or has been declared mentally incompetent by a court of law.

State   Residency requirement    
       
Alaska   30-day registration requirement.      
Delaware   No durational residency requirement. 20-day registration requirement.      
Idaho   30-day residency requirement. May register 25 days prior to any election with County Clerk. Individual may also register on election day at polling place.    
Maine   No durational residency requirement.    
Montana   30-day residency requirement. 30-day registration requirement.      
New Hampshire   No durational residency requirement. 10-day registration requirement. Individual may also register on election day at polling place.    
North Dakota   No voter registration. 30-day residency requirement to vote in election.    
South Dakota   No durational residency requirement. 15-day registration requirement.    
Vermont   Administrative cut-off date for processing registration applications is second Saturday before the election, by 12 noon.    
Wyoming   No durational residency requirement. 30-day registration requirement.    

Source: Questionnaires to the states.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #191 on: August 22, 2003, 10:56:06 am »

Issues pertaining to smoking

Here's a graph showing current state cigarette tax, sales tax (on a pack of cigarettes) , and final retail price by state.


Results:
State cig tax as of Jun. 26, 2003

ND    0.44
NH    0.52
SD    0.53
DE    0.55
ID    0.57
WY    0.60
MT    0.70
ME    1.00
AK    1.00
VT    1.19  :P
 

States Ranked by Laws Ensuring Smokefree Air --State of Tobacco Control: 2002


Rank in the nation, State, Grade assigned by American Lung Association

#50 Wyoming  F

#28 Idaho  F

#27 North Dakota  F

#25 Montana  F

#17 South Dakota  F

#13 New Hampshire  F

#8 Alaska  F

#5 Maine  C

#4 Vermont  B

#2 Delaware  A  :P

Other aspects to the ALA data have been explored already for the spreadsheet rankings, such as here: http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1200;start=15

States Ranked by Tobacco Prevention and Control Spending


Rank in the nation, State, Grade assigned by American Lung Association

#41 Montana  F
#34 Idaho  F
#32 New Hampshire  F
#28 North Dakota  F
#27 South Dakota  F
#13 Wyoming  D
#12 Delaware  D
#10 Alaska  C
#9  Vermont  B
#1  Maine  A  :P

States Ranked by Cigarette Taxes (2002)

#11 Alaska  B
#13 Maine  B
#17 Vermont  B (has since leaped to the front of the pack, pun intended)
#25 New Hampshire  D
#27 North Dakota  D
#34 South Dakota  D
#35 Idaho  F
#36 Delaware  F
#44 Montana  F
#47 Wyoming  F  (has since noticeably changed ranking, see first list,  above)

Merely interesting facts related to smoking :

PERCENT OF MOTHERS WHO SMOKED DURING PREGNANCY BY STATE, 1999
WY 21.5
ND 19.2
ME 18.3
AK 18.0
MT 17.5
VT 16.5
NH 15.2
DE 12.8
ID 12.7

SD n/a


CURRENT CIGARETTE SMOKING PREVALENCE (%) AMONG ADULTS AGED 18 AND OLDER
AK 25.2
ME 23.8
WY 23.8
ND 23.2
DE 22.9
ID 22.3
SD 21.9
VT 21.5
MT 18.8



SOURCE: NATIONAL VITAL STATISTICS REPORT. SMOKING DURING PREGNANCY IN THE 1990S. VOL. 49(7); AUG. 2001. as reported in American Lung Association's report TRENDS IN TOBACCO USE, 2002.

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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #192 on: August 22, 2003, 11:14:35 am »

Looks like there is the opportunity to smugle cigarets from NH to ME and VT :P
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« Reply #193 on: August 22, 2003, 11:29:35 am »

There is a store here in Somersworth (NH) called Borderline Beverage. As the name suggests, it is *right* on the ME/NH border. I know of people in Maine who drive approximately an hour each way to buy their cigarettes and beer from Borderline Beverage.
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Re:More and other criteria to weigh states with
« Reply #194 on: August 23, 2003, 07:20:57 am »

Safest states in America
2003 RANK   STATE   SUM   2002 RANK   CHANGE
1   Vermont   -65.63   3   2
2   North Dakota   -65.57   1   -1
3   Maine   -59.84   2   -1
4   South Dakota   -53.23   4   0
5   New Hampshire   -52.39   8   3
6   West Virginia   -49.31   10   4
7   Wyoming   -48.95   6   -1
8   Iowa   -47.82   7   -1
9   Idaho   -44.47   5   -4
10   Montana   -42.21   9   -1
Source:
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