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South Dakota!
« on: October 23, 2002, 04:26:09 am »


Saw on the news tonight that SD is a big swing state for the Senate race.  South Dakota currently has TWO DEMOCRATS in the Senate,  including Daschle in a state with only 500 thousand adults over the age of 18!

Wouldn't it be nice, in the next Senate election cycle, to have the Free State Project voters responsible for kicking that smarmy bastard out of office?

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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2002, 07:31:44 am »

Yorick,

Welcome aboard!

South Dakota could be interesting, and yes, it would be a very good thing to get rid of Tom Daschle...probably the first giant leap for mankind since Neal Armstrong took that memorable first step onto the surface of Tranquility Bay.

I just don't know if I'd want to live amongst the kind of people who keep electing him in the first place!    :o ;D
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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2002, 09:47:23 am »

View from the hunting cabin   :)


« Last Edit: October 25, 2002, 09:38:31 am by yorick »
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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2002, 11:17:00 pm »

I found a column by Michelle Malkin about some problems in South Dacota, & figured this might be a good place to post it. When I tried a link to her web page I had to look in the archives for it.
 
Jewish World Review Oct. 23, 2002
Michelle Malkin
 
The shambles in South Dakota


http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | "You've got an economy that is in shambles," complains Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a South Dakota Democrat, whose party is now hounding President Bush for neglecting America's poor, the disenfranchised, the elderly and the unemployed.


Well, Tom Daschle certainly knows about economic shambles and neglect. Look at his home state.


Take the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, which, along with several other reservations, is now being investigated by state and federal authorities because of criminal allegations of massive voter fraud tied to local Democrat Party operatives.


The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation sits in Shannon County, located in the southwest corner of Tom Daschle's South Dakota. It is the second-poorest U.S. county in the nation, according to the Census Bureau. The unemployment rate hovers around 75 to 85 percent. More than 60 percent of the population lives below the federal poverty level; per capita income is just under $6,300. The reservation is a magnet for mooches because federal time limits on welfare benefits don't apply at Pine Ridge.


Here where cradle-to-grave socialism, the Democrats' fantasy state, is realized, more than half the reservation's adults battle addiction and disease. Alcoholism, diabetes and malnutrition are rampant. Life expectancy on the reservation is 48 years old for men and 52 for women. That's the shortest life expectancy for a community anywhere in the Western Hemisphere outside Haiti, according to The Wall Street Journal. The infant mortality rate is the nation's highest, at about three times the national average.


Former President Clinton waltzed through Pine Ridge on a lip-biting tour with Tom Daschle and then-Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Andrew Cuomo in 1999. "You have suffered from neglect, and you know that doesn't work. You have also suffered from the tyranny of patronizing, inadequately funded government programs, and you know that doesn't work," Clinton thundered in a speech promising to create "new markets" for the poor and clean up the squalor in Tom Daschle's South Dakota.


But the Democrats' grand housing construction and revitalization scheme for Pine Ridge, which made for nice glossy brochures and promotional videos, fell short. Tribal leaders grumbled about being exploited for Democratic political gain. Three years later, Tom Daschle is Senate majority leader -- and the 5,000-square mile reservation, second-largest in the nation, still has no banks, motels or movie theaters.


Thirty-nine percent of the homes on the Pine Ridge reservation have no electricity. Many lack basic plumbing. Public housing units are so overcrowded and scarce that many homeless families often take to tents or cars for shelter. In fact, the plight of the Pine Ridge reservation is so infamous that churches in other states solicit donations of used wood-burning stoves to bring to the residents during harsh winters. Without basic insulation or central heating in their homes, many Indians on Pine Ridge use their ovens to heat their homes.


Tom Daschle has been in public office in South Dakota since 1978, when he won a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. He served there until 1986, and then moved on to the U.S. Senate, where he has wielded power for three terms. By all accounts, Daschle owes his Senate seat to Native American voters who helped provide him with a razor-thin edge in his initial Senate bid. Now, he is leaning on those perpetually impoverished Native Americans across the state (dead or alive) to keep him in power and protect his protege, junior Sen. Tim Johnson, who is locked in a tight battle with GOP Rep. John Thune.


While his destitute constituents on Pine Ridge huddle around their ovens for heat and drink in despair, Tom Daschle says he can do better for America's economy. Have you seen what he has done for South Dakota lately?  



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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2002, 09:34:49 am »

No question that the economy in western SD is horrible, especially on/near the reservations.  Eastern SD, Sioux Falls, in particular  however is doing quite well.  Curent SD usury laws favor bank & credit card companies, Citibank has a major headquarters there, as well as Gateway Computers of course.  Sioux Falls has an entire cottage industry dedicated to convincing small business owners in MN(8% tax rate) to move to Sioux Falls(0% tax rate) sioux falls development

The reservation problems are enormous, and have been many genrations in the making, I don't think anyone could significantly change things for the better unless you can introduce free market forces.  The reservation "economy" is as close to old style soviet communism as you can get in the US.  The "tribe" owns everything, and the leaders of the tribe make distributions according to their whim, or with "guidance" from the BIA, probably one of the most corrupt agencies in the entire federal alphabet soup of corrupt agencies.

Pine Ridge is not far from the pic I posted above, I do think that areas with depressed economies are far more likely to welcome a sudden influx entrepenurial outsiders, not to mention the fact that real-estate tends to be cheap in areas with poor economies.  

My thought would be that people who need jobs and may be more dependant on a strong economy would gravitate to the east, those who are able to start thier own business can find cheap labor and real estate in the western part of the state.

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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2002, 01:30:00 am »

South Dakota's biggest advantage is the fact that it includes Mt. Rushmore.  I'm certain all of those men, would heartily approve of a free state project, done properly!

What a great thing to take back a national (arguably the most notable and one of the most on-point) landmark as well!
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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2003, 09:45:04 am »

South Dakota has been getting some consideration as a "compromise" state, but perhaps it will win by default, as opponents of the leading candidates point out the weaknesses of those states:

New Hampshire:  too many people already live there

Wyoming:  Not enough good jobs

Idaho:  too many people already live there

Alaska:  too cold and too remote for many people to consider moving there

Vermont:  native population too socialist to convert to liberty

Delaware:  not free enough now to get excited about moving there

North Dakota:  colder than Alaska, and more communitarian than you would think

Maine:  too many people already live there

Montana:  maybe not so bad, but more people than South Dakota

As I said, that leaves South Dakota, by default.  It has a great variety of living and working environments to attract all types of Porcupines, Mt. Rushmore to add Jason's face to someday, and the FSP might actually be welcome, simply to counter the population drain the Dakotas are dealing with.


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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2003, 01:42:18 pm »

Daschle being from there is indicative of something. My long-term RLC index row for personal freedom (which rates federal elected representatives) shows SD in 6th place. For economic freedom is shows SD in 7th place among our candidate states. The AG industry there sure keeps electing losers to their federal seats.

It would be nice to go there and knock Daschle out of that seat. Sort of like the folks (esp. gun owners) back in Spokane kicking Tom Foley out of his seat. It would get us some attention, wouldn't it?  :)

Otherwise, they are not too bad. When I pick out the economic freedom indicators in the big spreadsheet, they are in 2nd place (WY=1444, SD=1389). When I pick out personal freedom indicators, though, they are only in sixth place. And they are awful in the dependence measure. But when I weigh things for overall FSP desireability, my personal "best guess" for a weight vector, they come in 2nd place (WY=764, SD=687). Not a close second, but second nonetheless.
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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 04:47:57 am »

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Funny how the big square states have shorter commute times than the little eastern ones. Who'da thunk it?
I had thought the reverse would be true, until I looked it up.

Heavier traffic congestion in the eastern states probably makes up a substantial portion of the difference in commute times between east and west, in spite of the shorter distance involved in the east.

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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2003, 09:30:04 am »

Daschle being from there is indicative of something. My long-term RLC index row for personal freedom (which rates federal elected representatives) shows SD in 6th place. For economic freedom is shows SD in 7th place among our candidate states. The AG industry there sure keeps electing losers to their federal seats.

When it comes to national socialism programs, Tom Daschle is every bit the smarmy demagogue his opponents make him out to be; but his track record on "having serious concerns" over certain types of big-brother policies including the Patriot Act should keep us from disparaging his constituency too much, there may even be a commendable bit of civil libertarian in this guy.  An example of this from a recycled clipping found this morning :
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April 9, 2003


Republicans Want Terror Law Made Permanent

By ERIC LICHTBLAU

WASHINGTON, April 8 -- Working with the Bush administration,
Congressional Republicans are maneuvering to make permanent the sweeping antiterrorism powers granted to federal law enforcement agents after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, officials said today.

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When it passed in October 2001, moderates and civil libertarians in
Congress agreed to support it only by making many critical provisions temporary. Those provisions will expire, or "sunset," at the end of 2005 unless Congress re-authorizes them.

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Many Democrats have grown increasingly frustrated by what they see as a lack of information from the Justice Department on how its agents are using their newfound powers, and they say they need more time to determine whether agents are abusing those powers.

Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said today that without extensive review, he "would be very strongly opposed to any repeal" of the 2005 time limit. He predicted that Republicans lacked the votes to repeal the limits.

Indeed, Congressional officials and political observers said the debate might force lawmakers to take stock of how far they were willing to sacrifice civil liberties in the name of fighting terrorism.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2003, 06:01:58 pm »

South Dakota could be a perfect "neutral" state between the warring east and west factions.

Sioux Falls end for the eastern big city types.
Rapid City end for the western rural types.
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Re:South Dakota!
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2003, 06:24:18 pm »

I agree SD is a good compromise state. I've had it at #2 almost since the beginning.
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