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New WY jobs forecast
« on: June 10, 2003, 06:14:48 pm »

The Wyoming projections for 2000-2010 have been released: Wyoming is projected to create 36,263 new jobs over this period, with the greatest areas of growth being the Southwest, the Northeast, and the Casper and Cheyenne areas.  Full report:

http://doe.state.wy.us/lmi/EmpOutlook2010.pdf
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2003, 07:25:09 pm »

Isn't this the last 2010 projection to come in? We've got them all now?

I kinda like that Wyoming took so long to do it. They must have a small, overworked bureaucracy.   ;)

I have updated the big spreadsheet. BTW, WY no longer suffers the distinction of having the least number of jobs; now VT and ND are essentially tied in last place.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2003, 07:53:24 pm »

Isn't this the last 2010 projection to come in? We've got them all now?

No, ND remains the lone laggard now. :P
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2003, 10:48:48 pm »

The Wyoming projections for 2000-2010 have been released: Wyoming is projected to create 36,263 new jobs over this period, with the greatest areas of growth being the Southwest, the Northeast, and the Casper and Cheyenne areas.  Full report:

http://doe.state.wy.us/lmi/EmpOutlook2010.pdf

Jason, I thought it might actually go up.  My reasoning, I have seen a lot of reports about people moving to Wyoming but not being counted by the census because they did not want to be.  From the reports, these people are already libertarians (at least of the Neal Bootz type).  The latest job numbers back this up.  I am really stating to think, yeah, maybe those stories of 25,000 to 100,000 extra people in Wyoming (most being libertarians) just might be true.  There is even other evidence that suggest the growth rate in WY is much higher the the numbers really show and most of these new people are also libertarians.

Maybe, just maybe, Wyoming will already have 25,000 to 100,000 libertarians by the time of the move.  What we will need to do is to get these libertarians to actually use and become active in politics.  In order for this to happen, we will have to win some elections first and show them, that as long as they do not break the law, we will protect them from governments.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2003, 11:06:57 pm »

Jason, I thought it might actually go up.  My reasoning, I have seen a lot of reports about people moving to Wyoming but not being counted by the census because they did not want to be.  From the reports, these people are already libertarians (at least of the Neal Bootz type).  The latest job numbers back this up.  I am really stating to think, yeah, maybe those stories of 50,000 to 100,000 extra people in Wyoming (most being libertarians is true).  It is even other evidence that suggest the growth rate in WY is much higher the the numbers really show and most of these new people are also libertarians.

100,000 libertarians hiding out in the Wyoming sagebrush?  This sounds like a myth to me.  If I'm wrong, what is your evidence to support it?

See thread:
Census undercounts compared
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2003, 04:03:28 am »

This is excellent news, although not entirely unexpected.  Business reports that have come out recently view Wyoming very positively.

I think the case has been made that the jobs are there.  And with Wyoming's lower population, and liberty-oriented culture, there is no other state that gives us such a launching pad for this effort.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2003, 04:05:31 am »

If Nevada shoots itself in the foot, which we should know about shortly, that too should boost jobs substantially.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2003, 02:08:38 pm »

The Wyoming projections for 2000-2010 have been released: Wyoming is projected to create 36,263 new jobs over this period, with the greatest areas of growth being the Southwest, the Northeast, and the Casper and Cheyenne areas.  Full report:

http://doe.state.wy.us/lmi/EmpOutlook2010.pdf

This is great news.  36,263 report jobs in Wyoming.  Also, there are well over 100,000 new jobs going to Ft. Collins which is only 40 mintutes from Wyoming.

Additionally, all of the states (including Wyoming) have many unreported repair, ranch hand, yard work, transportation, house work, assistant, and other such jobs.  

I looked at the Wyoming map to see what cities are in the high growing areas of Wyoming.

Southwest=
Evantson and Rock Springs.  Evanston is 1 1/2 hours from Salt Lake City and lots of the people from Salt Lake go to Evanston for entertainment and shopping.  Lots of things are legal or common in Evanston that are not common in Salt Lake City.  If this area continues to grow, that is great.  This gives FSP members jobgs right next to a major MSA.  In 4 hours people can go from Evanston to LA.

Northeast=
Gillette is the largest city in this area.  It is known for its recent job growth.  I am glad this is projected to continue.  This is a very freedom loving place and is in Wyoming's flat land right between the Bighorn Mts and the Black Hills.  Less than 2 hours and you have large Casinos and big city life in the Rapid City area.  Sales tax free shopping in Billings MT is not far, either.  

If you are from the Mid-west and are planing on picking SD because of the Black Hills, maybe you should reconsider.  WY has the Black Hills also and Gillette is only a few miles from the Black Hills.  Not to mention, that Gillette is also near the Big Horn Mts and Wyoming is best for the FSP.

Cheyenne=
This is great news.  This is the area that many FSP members will want to go to, anway.  The city only has around 55,000 people but life is like living in a large, cultured urban center.  45 min. to the south is Ft. Collins, a major and quite growing city.  Ft. Collins has a college center and a quickly grow high tech area.  Denver is about 1 hour 40 min. from Cheyenne.

Casper=
This is great news.  This is one of the best cities of its size in the country for outdoors people.  This city has some of the nicest summers in America and is very inexpensive to live in.  Pro baseball and football teams are also here.  Although hockey and rodeo are also popular sports.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2003, 05:36:12 pm »

  Thats only 3600 jobs a year?  Not a lot of ceo type work either?
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2003, 11:11:24 pm »

I'm sure we can find you yard work jobs in New Hampshire as well, George. Never fear.   ;)
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2003, 11:36:43 pm »

36,263 report jobs in Wyoming plus many unreported repair, ranch hand, yard work, transportation, and other such jobs.  

I'm glad to hear there are yard work jobs. I think I would enjoy this more than the Pizza Hut manager job.

I am glad you are glad :)  Where I live, some people make $15 and hour or more doing yard work and this is all tax free.  Even cleaning pools or running an invisible fence company can pay well.  That is a lot of money for the South.  

The Pizza Hut manager job would also be cool, though.  They start at from $25,000 to $40,000 where I live and you do not need any prior experince.  That would be a good stepping stone to another job.

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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2003, 09:06:44 am »

I would love a job doing yard work.

George, you crack me up. You know when you drop that cooler by this afternoon? Well, we were just lamenting that we hadn't had a chance to mow the lawn or weed the garden before Escape to NH! I could put you to work right here in New Hampshire  ;)
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2003, 12:27:04 am »

This talk about yard work reminds me of something a friend of mine told me. He was talking to an aquaintance of his, someone up from Mexico who had a small yard maintenance business. This fellow told my friend something to the effect that, "I don't believe this country. There is money all over, just lying on the ground. All you have to do is bend down, and pick it up!"   :)
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Cheyenne examines industrial park with rail access
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2003, 10:17:18 pm »

Thought I'd post this here since it has to do with future economic opportunity in Lamarie County, Wyoming (the Cheyenne area):

From today's Casper Star-Tribune:

Cheyenne examines industrial park with rail access

Thursday, July 31, 2003

CHEYENNE (AP) -- The city plans to study moving Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway's mainline out of city limits and creating an industrial park where trucks and freight could be transferred to and from trains.

The Cheyenne Metropolitan Planning Organization requested proposals recently from consulting firms to provide engineering and environmental services for the first phase of the study, which will be conducted with the Wyoming Department of Transportation and Laramie County.

Goals include evaluating the feasibility of relocating the existing track and yard facility, developing plans for an industrial park served by rail, identifying potential funding, completing an environmental impact overview and considering converting abandoned rails to walking and bicycling trails.

Burlington Northern and Santa Fe lines pass through F.E. Warren Air Force Base, and stricter national security brought on by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks requires the base keep a closer eye on any vehicle or freight passing through, planning organization director Tom Mason said.

Moving the tracks outside the city and base could provide Burlington Northern and the city with some economic development opportunities, officials said.

"If we're successful, we'll have a lot more efficient transportation system and address a lot of security issues," said Marty Manasco, Burlington Northern's general director for public-private partnerships.

The first phase calls for analysis of realigning the rails, preliminary engineering and an environmental overview. Proposals are due Aug. 27.

Also included in the study would be an analysis of potential new road and highway crossings and closure of existing ones, feasibility of a commuter rail between Denver and Cheyenne, and if there is a need for new interstate access.

If Cheyenne had an industrial park with rail access, the city would be better positioned to lure industrial and large-scale businesses that need to ship and receive freight by train, Mason said.

The facility would provide a large area where semitrailers could be loaded and unloaded from trains and have immediate access to Interstates 80 and 25.

"It's really an awesome study with huge potential for positive economic growth," Mason said.

A steering committee will be formed and at least two open houses and one public hearing will be held.

Federal funds will be used to pay for 80 percent of the $250,000 phase one study. WyDOT will pay 10 percent, and the city and county will split the balance.

"You always have to take a first step, and I think this is very doable," Manasco said.
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Re:New WY jobs forecast
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2003, 11:56:59 am »

I was just in Wyoming.  I call tell you it is a fact that you can go from Ft. Collins to Cheyenne, WY in 25 min.  However, the average person would take around 31 min. (I am guess here since it only took me 25 min.)

Cheyenne has a dozen Interstate connections and Ft. Collins also has many so it does not take long to get around these towns.  I would say that if you lived in southern Cheyenne and worked in downtown Ft. Collins it would take around 40 min. to get to work.  Now, that is not bad considering I live in Memphis and work in Memphis and it takes me 30 min. to get to work.  If I lived in the suburbs it would take an additional 10-20 min.  

In other words, this commute is very easy and very possible.  It is almost a straight line and there are mountains (about as big as most Eastern mountains) on one side of the Interestate (way in the distance) for most of the drive.

I am glad I went to Ft. Collins and Cheyenne and put a end to this debate once and for all.  The drive is easy and short.  Ft. Collins has more jobs than all of us need times five.  
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