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StevenN

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It's the Economy, Stupid!
« on: March 12, 2003, 12:08:38 pm »

I think one of the major things which needs to be discussed is the economy of the Free State.

Which prospective states' economies are languishing? In my opinion, a high-flying economy is not necessary. However, it's important to not pick a state with an absolutely poor economy. Wyoming might be the best choice in most categories; but if FSP'ers can't get jobs immediately, then the whole thing will collapse. Granted, I know that a free-market will absorb these people and that this same market is the only route to economic prosperity. But the changes will come slowly, and to convince others to move beyond the 5k, then you have to have jobs.

Also, seeing as how economists are disproportionately libertarians, perhaps we should get an economist to examine potential states' economies and how the move would effect it; and recommend which states to avoid.

Does Milton Friedman know about the FSP? Or David Henderson (both at the Hoover Institute at Stanford)? I think this would be the sort of thing that they would be all for. There's got to be at least one economist at Cato or Acton that would be willing to help out.
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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2003, 06:01:37 pm »

I don't know if what's needed are "immediate" jobs per se.  After all, if a state like Wyoming were chosen, the move would be staggered over eight years' time.  But if you do think jobs are important, probably your favorite state should be SD or DE.  Of course, both are quite a bit higher in population than WY and even AK, ND, and VT.  So you trade off influence for jobs.  I go into the jobs factor a bit in this study of the states:
http://www.freestateproject.org/stateanalysis2.htm
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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2003, 09:47:46 pm »

Actually, my favorite state is WY.  ;)
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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2003, 12:49:17 am »

We definitely have a contribution to make to Wyoming's economy - even more than by just bringing in additional cashflow.  Wyoming is looking for ways to diversify its economy, a task that several thousand people from all walks of life should be able to assist with admirably.  And our attempts to bring in outside investment and stimulate economic diversity should tie in quite well with the economic expansion headed up toward Wyoming from the Denver area.  

Overall, we have a chance to make a significant contribution to raising the standard of living in Wyoming and making a real case for our ideals, something that would not be possible to nearly such an extent in ID and NH.

And another good thing here is that even though economic expansion from the Denver area is currently underway, it has not yet impacted Wyoming significantly in terms of immigration and the problems that usually follow.  New Hampshire, on the other hand, is currently experiencing such issues due to an influx from the Boston area, an influx which is contributing to the increasing pressure to raise taxes there.

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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2003, 03:04:17 pm »

Which would get us more positive press.

Holding the fort in New Hampshire against the Boston mob?
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Making Wyoming into a Free State that has Denverites beating a path to its door?
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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2003, 03:15:40 pm »

In NH it would be impossible to become a free state with being surrounded by socialist states and the constant in migration of those people.

In Wyoming there is little out of state in-migration and is surrounded by freedom loving states.
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Re:It's the Economy, Stupid!
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2003, 04:23:45 pm »

In NH it would be impossible to become a free state with being surrounded by socialist states and the constant in migration of those people.
Do not see why? Comuting for work does not matter. As for migration, Craig Benson is from Massachusstes. This are refugees not invading statists.
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In Wyoming there is little out of state in-migration and is surrounded by freedom loving states.
No one migrates to WY because there is no work.
As for freedom loving, I think you mean Republican leaning individualists. Long way to Objectivism and libertarian idea of freedom.
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