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Solitar

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Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" Warm south coast of Alaska)
« on: December 14, 2002, 04:28:36 am »

http://www.kodiak.org/images/buffalo2.jpg
http://www.kodiak.org/info.html
The Banana Belt of Alaska:  Kodiak Island.
http://www.kodiak.org/weather.html
There are only 14,000 people and it has twice the land area of Delaware.
http://www.kodiak.org/weathermaps.htm
http://www.mindspring.com/~wjager/maps.html
http://www.alaska.com/akcom/western/cities/story/1754155p-676867c.html

Non-federal, Alaska-owned Space Launch Facility
http://www.akaerospace.com/

NOAA frost free maps
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/documentlibrary/freezefrost/frostfreemaps.html

Garden Zones 6 and 7 (Idaho only makes it to Zone 6)
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"Zone 7 is the middle ground of gardening in the United States. It covers a Southern belt from Delaware into northern Georgia, then continues west into southern Oklahoma and northern Texas. In the East, ocean influences allow Zone 7 to continue north along the New Jersey coast, Long Island, and Cape Cod. Westerly, it snakes through southern New Mexico; bits of Arizona, Nevada and southern Utah; up the eastern border of California, into the central mountainous regions of Oregon and Washington; and into Alaska's Inland Passage [and Kodiak Island - see map]. With lower elevations and longer days, many plants thrive in Zone 7.'
http://www.ivillage.com/home/garden/zonefinder/articles/0,7790,alaska,00.html
http://www.gaygardener.com/zonemap.php3
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2002, 06:44:42 am »

Interesting possibilities here!

A libertarian society could conceivably do good business with a privately-owned launching facility.

And then there's this note from your aerospace links:

"Kodiak Island has approximately 15,000 residents, with roughly half living within the City of Kodiak. A broad range of skilled services is available on the island. Resident companies include a sophisticated local telephone exchange, an island-wide electrical utility, a cable television company, several grocery store chains, a highly skilled construction workforce and other skilled technicians."

With all of this specialization, there could be some good-paying jobs available there.

http://www.kib.co.kodiak.ak.us/

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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2002, 11:33:11 am »

Phew. That's gorgeous  ;D

I love Alaska, but my only problem with it is that you will have a hard time getting lots of people to move, since they'd have to go so far from their families.
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2002, 05:00:32 pm »

Yeah, and it helps not to mind the rain and snow - and being chewed on by brown bears.  ;)
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2002, 11:37:08 pm »

Apparently, not everyone likes that launch facility.  Looks like it's just going to be a missile base.

www.commondreams.org/views01/0810-05.htm

Besides, isn't Kodiak rainy and nasty most of the year.  I wouldn't trust weather reports from Alaska tourism sites ;D


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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2002, 12:32:45 pm »

Yeah, and it helps not to mind the rain and snow - and being chewed on by brown bears.  ;)
Good enough excuse to wear a sidearm. The bears are throughout Alaska though. Knowing that they outnumber people on Kodiak is an interesting predicament, true or not.
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2002, 01:18:10 pm »

make sure there is a bear behind ther perp u want to shot
or better yet ... let the bear get them

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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2002, 01:27:19 pm »

Heh, timing would be everything. :)
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2002, 12:35:35 am »

My concern is the sheer land area of federal territory.

What is the size of the Wildlife Preserve on this island and what is the percentage of that area to the area of the entire island?
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2002, 11:26:18 am »

A plentiful supply of bears is a plus, as if dressed & cooked properly, they make for good eating. ;)

Not to mention warm blankets, clothing and nice rugs!
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2002, 12:12:33 pm »

The answers to your questions and more are in the website and the other links posted under the buffalo photo and other links posted here.

Like the question which FSP activists will have to answer someday,
What is the percentage of the county, borough, city or state budget devoted to roads?
You will have to know where to find that information. Hint. Start at the state web site.

What is the percentage of land of various ownership on Kodiak Island?
Hint: Start with the Kodiak.org website.
Note that its percentage of private land is higher than Alaska as a whole (though to what degree you would regard land owned by "Native Corporations" as "private" is a good question.

Now for the magic envelope...
Percent of Federal, State, and Private Land
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=686
On Kodiak - look under "Business and Economy"
Then "Kodiak's Economy"
Then from the list on top which includes
Population  â€¢ Labor Force • Cost of Living • Land Ownership • Retail Sales • Bank Deposits • Seafood Industry • Visitor Industry • Timber Industry • Construction Industry • International Trade • Aviation • Revenues by Industry
choose "Land Ownership"
http://www.kodiak.org/land.html

You'll also find all sorts of relevant stuff for "political activists" at the Kodiak Borough site
http://www.kib.co.kodiak.ak.us/
stuff like the Kodiak Borough Code

and now for the Alaska Budget, check this out
http://www.legfin.state.ak.us/
Political Activists will have to eventually learn how to dig info out of state budgets.

MouseBorg, As to bears -- they could say the same thing about humans
A plentiful supply of humans is a plus, if undressed properly, they make for good eating. ;D
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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" warmer than Idaho! (south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2002, 05:15:01 pm »

Source:  http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/   (I get much of my weather data there).

Kodiak:
Avg temp: 41.2
Record high/low:  82/-16
Months with avg temp below 35: 5
Avg precip:  76.2
Avg snow: 71.9
Record show: 145.5


Boise:
Avg temp: 51.0
Record high/low:  111/-25
Months with avg temp below 35:  2
Avg precip:  11.88
Avg snow: 20.5
Record show: 46.5

Kodiak is *NOT* warmer than Idaho.  The only stat indicating so is the extreme low, where Idaho got 9 degrees cooler *once*.  On average, Boise is 10 degrees warmer, has 1/7 the rain and less than 1/3 the snow.  Boise's record snow is more than 35% less than Kodiak's *average* snow.

Don't get me wrong, it may be beautiful there.  And gardening might be swell.  But to say it's warmer than Idaho is just plain wrong.

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Were those BUFFALO in that picture?
It does look like Montana or even Wyoming. 8)

Kodiak Island is the warmest and probably best place for Porcupines to move to (outside of Maine  :).

The panhandle down by Juneau would be close to the capital but, I understand, the real estate there is extremely expensive because there is is so extremely little private land.

OTOH, there seem to be some IT jobs available in Juneau.  Being able to get gainful employment has to be a consideration.  :)

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The panhandle down by Juneau would be close to the capital but, I understand, the real estate there is extremely expensive because there is is so extremely little private land.

Juneau is one of the highest cost-of-living cities in the U.S.; I believe it makes the top five listing but I'd have to go back and check again.  Another turn-off would be the amount of rain the area receives, although this coastal influence also provides the fringe benefit of milder winter weather.

The Juneau area is also quite beautiful.

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Re:Kodiak Island: "Emerald Isle" Warm south coast of Alaska)
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2003, 04:50:18 pm »

Ketchikan, at the far southern tip of Southeast Alaska, is very warm (that is, it freezes only infrequently even in winter), and is quite libertarian according to election results.  I believe property values are quite high there, but the most well-off among us might enjoy living there if AK were chosen.
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