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Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« on: August 11, 2003, 07:23:30 pm »

Montana is the only one from which I can gather...  Does anybody have a link to verifiable information on this matter?

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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2003, 07:31:41 pm »

Each state has different restructions about where people are allowed to carry guns.

Here are the restrictions by state:

NH -  Courtrooms

VT - Schools, state institutions, courtrooms, controlled public access buildings

ME - Bars, schools, Governor's mansion, Capitol buildings

AK - Public or private schools, bars, child care facilities, courtrooms, domestic violence shelters, another residence unless express permission granted

ID - Courthouse, juvenile justice facility, public or private school

ND - Bars, gaming sites, public gatherings

SD - Bars, courthouses, federal buildings / Cities allowed to pass stricter regulations by state law

WY - Law enforcement facilities, courthouses, government meetings, sporting events, worship places, public/private schools, colleges, universities

MT - Government owned buildings, banks, credit unions, trains, bars (unless have permit)

DE - Public or private schools or within 1000 ft of schools, government facilities

http://www.packing.org/state/  
 
 
I would say that MT DOES NOT allow students to carry, at least in public schools, since guns are prohibited (permit or not) in government-owned buildings.

From this data, it appears as though it is only New Hampshire, South Dakota, and North Dakota who allow this.
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2003, 07:37:07 pm »

Thanks for your information.   :D

I did find this on nraila.org
http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws.asp?FormMode=Detail&R=MT

"It is unlawful to carry a concealed firearm under the influence of an intoxicating substance or in a building owned or leased by a governmental body, financial institution, or a room where alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed, or consumed. Violation of these provisions will bar someone from obtaining a concealed carry permit."

Concealed Carry is defined here:
It is unlawful to "carry or bear" a concealed handgun without a permit to carry. Concealed has been defined as "wholly or partially covered by the clothing or wearing apparel."

It looks to me like carrying a handgun in ones backpack or purse isn't considered concealed...
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2003, 08:18:16 pm »

I especially like the response we got at the NH state house when we asked if it really WAS OK to carry guns around the state house, and even into the governor's office... "Sure! And lots of people do!" (IIRC)...

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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2003, 08:21:21 pm »

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It looks to me like carrying a handgun in ones backpack or purse isn't considered concealed...

Yes, but keep in mind that the above restrictions are for BOTH open carry and concealed carry. Open carry without a permit is allowed in all the states except (someone correct me if I am wrong) DE,
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2003, 08:39:19 pm »

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It looks to me like carrying a handgun in ones backpack or purse isn't considered concealed...

Yes, but keep in mind that the above restrictions are for BOTH open carry and concealed carry. Open carry without a permit is allowed in all the states except (someone correct me if I am wrong) DE,

I don't think Open Carry would be of interest on a College Campus...

It would scare all the girls away!   ;D
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2003, 08:40:31 pm »

I especially like the response we got at the NH state house when we asked if it really WAS OK to carry guns around the state house, and even into the governor's office... "Sure! And lots of people do!" (IIRC)...

JM

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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2003, 08:42:18 pm »

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It looks to me like carrying a handgun in ones backpack or purse isn't considered concealed...

Yes, but keep in mind that the above restrictions are for BOTH open carry and concealed carry. Open carry without a permit is allowed in all the states except (someone correct me if I am wrong) DE,

I don't think Open Carry would be of interest on a College Campus...

It would scare all the girls away!   ;D

LOL!  ;D You are probably right. But, the point I was trying to make is that if carrying concealed in certain places is prohibited - it is also prohibited when carrying openly.
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2003, 03:20:39 am »

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It looks to me like carrying a handgun in ones backpack or purse isn't considered concealed...

Yes, but keep in mind that the above restrictions are for BOTH open carry and concealed carry. Open carry without a permit is allowed in all the states except (someone correct me if I am wrong) DE,

I don't think Open Carry would be of interest on a College Campus...

It would scare all the girls away!   ;D

LOL!  ;D You are probably right. But, the point I was trying to make is that if carrying concealed in certain places is prohibited - it is also prohibited when carrying openly.

Gotcha...  :)
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2003, 07:44:12 am »

[, the point I was trying to make is that if carrying concealed in certain places is prohibited - it is also prohibited when carrying openly.

Not true, in several states it is illegal to carry concealed but OK to carry openly.  For instance, Missouri is one.  That is not to say you wouldn't be surrounded by a SWAT team is someone saw you doing so, but it is legal in the state although different cities differ.
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Re:Which States allow College Students to Carry Concealed?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2003, 07:53:39 am »

[, the point I was trying to make is that if carrying concealed in certain places is prohibited - it is also prohibited when carrying openly.

Not true, in several states it is illegal to carry concealed but OK to carry openly.  For instance, Missouri is one.  That is not to say you wouldn't be surrounded by a SWAT team is someone saw you doing so, but it is legal in the state although different cities differ.

No, no. I guess I'm still not making myself clear. What you said is true, but that's not the point I was trying to make. There is a list above that shows the various places that each state prohibit people from carrying. These prohibitions are true whether you are carrying openly or carrying concealed.

For example:

New Hampshire prohibits guns in courthouses. It doesn't matter whether my gun is in open view or concealed. I still can't carry in courthouses.

Wyoming prohibits guns in law enforcement facilities, courthouses, government meetings, sporting events, worship places, public/private schools, colleges, universities. It doesn't matter whether my gun is in open view or concealed. I still can't carry in these places.

See what I mean?

Summerlin wanted to know in which states he could carry on campuses. I was just trying to show that he had to look at the list of prohibitions in each state and then to understand that these were the prohibitions whether or not he has a CCW license.

The one exception is MT. MT prohibits guns in a list of places, but makes an exception for bars. You can not carry openly in bars, but you can carry concealed in you have a license.
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