Free State Project Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down

Author Topic: Living Independent from the Utilities Grid  (Read 6803 times)

Top Dollar

  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 802
  • I took the red pill.
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2003, 12:08:52 am »

Nuclear would make a lot of sense for New Hampshire.  Solar takes land area and there is a lot of cloud cover in the North East.  There are Pebble Beds in development as well in Europe which are small scale with a planned pilot test in South Africa.
Logged
Hey, Wow!  Your planet is bright!

U.S. Constitution Text:  http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html
U.S. Founding Documents:  http://www.constitution.org/cs_found.htm

BillG

  • Guest
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2003, 06:56:05 pm »

Quote
Nuclear would make a lot of sense for New Hampshire

Please keep in mind that Seabrook in NH was one of the flash points for the whole anti-nuclear movement during the 70's.

I don't think it will fly based on the bill of goods that were sold here.

http://www.izaak.unh.edu/specoll/mancoll/clamshell.htm#histor
Logged

Top Dollar

  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 802
  • I took the red pill.
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2003, 08:55:32 pm »

Building across the border in Canada may be an option.  Maybe the power could be beamed by microwave link or laser to avoid crossing the border with wired right of way if the politics get obnoxious.  

Seabrook was a long time ago.  Maybe with education, the opposition can be reduced.  This can be hard to do with the willfull ignorance towards technology prevalent in such circles.
Logged
Hey, Wow!  Your planet is bright!

U.S. Constitution Text:  http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html
U.S. Founding Documents:  http://www.constitution.org/cs_found.htm

BillG

  • Guest
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2003, 09:19:12 pm »

remember the state you are moving to, of which I am a 6 year resident having grown up just over the Vt. border in Mass., is Yankee through and through which means contrarian by nature.

Everyone else tells us what we "should" do and we do what we feel is "right", sometimes the way we have always done it, hence what we damn well please...if you are moving here you better get use to it!
Logged

Top Dollar

  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 802
  • I took the red pill.
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2003, 11:10:26 pm »

That contrarian nature could come in handy - since everybody 'knows' nuclear power is too dangerous to use.

So, how is and has Hew Hampshire generating its power?
« Last Edit: October 22, 2003, 11:11:42 pm by Top Dollar »
Logged
Hey, Wow!  Your planet is bright!

U.S. Constitution Text:  http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html
U.S. Founding Documents:  http://www.constitution.org/cs_found.htm

rdeacon

  • FSP Participant
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1874
  • Six Years Into a Ten Year Sojourn
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2003, 10:51:04 am »

Interesting factoid: Did you know that the envrionmental movement used to be in favor of nucleur power back in the 60s?  However, in the 70s, a lot of new special interest money started flowing into environmental groups - from coal and oil companies.  Nuke power went from good to evil at right around the same time.  Sound suspicious?  Yeah, I thought so too.

On an entirely separate note, if you really want to live "off the grid", Earthships are the way to go.  You're not connected to the electric grid or the water grid.  If you use a cell phone you don't even need to be near a phone wire.  That just leaves cable tv/modem.  I'd be willing to have that installed in exchange for the savings of no electric or hot water bill.  They say it costs around $120/sf to build (that # includes approx 40% labor costs)  www.earthship.org
Logged

Top Dollar

  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 802
  • I took the red pill.
Re:Living Independent from the Utilities Grid
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2003, 12:32:49 pm »

A great magazine and web site on self reliance, includes contributions from Claire Wolfe:

http://www.backwoodshome.com/
Logged
Hey, Wow!  Your planet is bright!

U.S. Constitution Text:  http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.text.html
U.S. Founding Documents:  http://www.constitution.org/cs_found.htm
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
 

anything