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IamMan

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Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« on: May 27, 2014, 06:41:55 pm »

I need to make some copies of a few pages out of Revised Statutes Annotated at the Law Library in Concord.  Their hours are 8:30 am to 4:30 pm Monday through Friday.  I need this research in advance of Porcfest.  PM me if you are interested.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 07:56:25 pm »

Do you really need a copy of the official printed version? The RSAs are online for free, and are highly accurate.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2014, 07:07:44 pm »

Yes I need copies of certain pages out of the officially published code.  If you can help me please PM
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 12:26:54 am »

Yes I need copies of certain pages out of the officially published code.  If you can help me please PM
Simply google "NH RSA " and whatever you are looking for.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 05:12:35 am »

Revised Statues Annotated is proprietary publication containing the official record of what the law is.  It also contains relevant case citations to applicable statutes.  I have also run across discrepancies between online sources and official records before.  If you go into court with the wrong material you can't blame the internet.  Online sources will not suffice for the level of research I am doing.

I make it a habit not discuss compensation in open forums.  If you can help me with this research at the law library in Concord, New Hampshire, please send me a personal message.  I am trying to obtain this material before Porcfest.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 04:47:27 pm »

Google brings up lots of options; use the .gov sites


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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 08:07:07 pm »

Google brings up lots of options; use the .gov sites

Or, to make it easier, here's the link to the official NH site: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html

There might be some benefit to copying from the books, but I've never seen a discrepancy between the official online copy of the RSA's and the books.  That should at least get you started, until someone can potentially make the copies.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2014, 10:47:37 pm »

Thanks for helping me prove my point MainShark.  Here is the disclaimer from http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html .  Normally I use google to search state codes to find the statute number.  I rarely go through the main website so I wasn't aware this disclaimer was so prominent.

DISCLAIMER

THE MATERIAL AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE, WHILE BELIEVED TO BE ACCURATE, IS PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. PLEASE REFER TO THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THE TOP TO DETERMINE WHEN THE SITE WAS LAST UPDATED. NEITHER THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES (OLS) NOR WEST PUBLISHING, THE OFFICIAL PUBLISHER OF THE STATE STATUTES, MONITORS THE CONTENT OF THIS SITE. NOR DOES OLS OR WEST MONITOR OR PREPARE THE LIST OF SECTIONS AFFECTED (LSA) OR THE INDEX FOR THIS SITE. FOR THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF ANY STATUTE, PLEASE CONSULT THE BOUND VOLUMES AND SUPPLEMENTS OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED, PUBLISHED BY WEST, A THOMSON BUSINESS.


The fact that you have not found discrepancies between online codes and the official statutes does not mean they don't exist, because I have found them.  I am of course assuming you have taken the time to compare them.  More importantly REVISED STATUES ANNOTATED also covers case law citations and the constitution with case law citations.  If what I wanted to do was get a general idea, or "what everyone knows", of the information in a statute I would use the online tools.  I am interested in preparing for the possibility that some fool of a government servant is going to try and haul someone into court over "what everyone knows" instead of the actual law.

I want to thank everyone who posted the links, but assuming that because you have an internet connection that you know the law is as dangerous as it is erroneous.  Suggesting that online tools will suffice propagates that myth and I would ask others to stop doing it on this thread.

I have since found a copy at Dartmouth's law library besides the law library at Concord.  I still find it interesting that that the only government source for the REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED is locked up in Concord.  Most states have a copy in every county courthouse.

Again, if you can help me with this matter before Porcfest please send me a personal message.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 07:29:12 am »

Thanks for helping me prove my point MainShark.  Here is the disclaimer from http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html .  Normally I use google to search state codes to find the statute number.  I rarely go through the main website so I wasn't aware this disclaimer was so prominent.

Of course there's a disclaimer.  But that doesn't mean there are errors.  Like I said, it's a starting place.

Once you do that and determine what statutes you want, you can just contact the NH Law Library, and they will make copies (http://www.courts.state.nh.us/lawlibrary/services.htm).
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2014, 11:42:11 am »

Maybe you could make copies of how members of our "criminal UNjustice system" are involved in a cult:

http://marcstevens.net/articles/bar-associations-are-cults.html
 
Or copes of how it is all an infiltrated traitorous sham:
 
http://www.macquirelatory.com/Bar%20Association%20Exposed.htm
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2014, 02:52:00 pm »

Thanks for helping me prove my point MainShark.  Here is the disclaimer from http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html .  Normally I use google to search state codes to find the statute number.  I rarely go through the main website so I wasn't aware this disclaimer was so prominent.

Of course there's a disclaimer.  But that doesn't mean there are errors.  Like I said, it's a starting place.

Once you do that and determine what statutes you want, you can just contact the NH Law Library, and they will make copies (http://www.courts.state.nh.us/lawlibrary/services.htm).
Should always remember that statutes change... and we're about to see that as the session ends.
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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2014, 04:12:50 pm »

Thanks for helping me prove my point MainShark.  Here is the disclaimer from http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html .  Normally I use google to search state codes to find the statute number.  I rarely go through the main website so I wasn't aware this disclaimer was so prominent.

Of course there's a disclaimer.  But that doesn't mean there are errors.  Like I said, it's a starting place.

Once you do that and determine what statutes you want, you can just contact the NH Law Library, and they will make copies (http://www.courts.state.nh.us/lawlibrary/services.htm).
Should always remember that statutes change... and we're about to see that as the session ends.


Thanks John Edward Mercier.  I didn't realize the law library did that.  Problem solved.




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Re: Urgent Errand at Concord Law Library
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2014, 04:42:20 pm »

Maybe you could make copies of how members of our "criminal UNjustice system" are involved in a cult:

http://marcstevens.net/articles/bar-associations-are-cults.html
 
Or copes of how it is all an infiltrated traitorous sham:
 
http://www.macquirelatory.com/Bar%20Association%20Exposed.htm

I agree in principle with essence of those posts.  My research has shown that some of the "facts" listed in those articles are not true.  The States were Royal colonies not Crown Colonies.  It is my recollection that the first flag Washington raised was of that of the East India Company, which was a Crown colony.  The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America rejected both the king and Crown.

"...That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved;..."

The Declaration was an exercise in the Right of Revolution.  That requires allowing the courts of Law time to do justice, then petitioning the executive and legislative branches, and then waiting forty days before the tyrannical  government becomes illegal.  Any allegiance that attorneys serving in Congress might have had where dissolved at that time.  That they may have reestablished them later is another matter.

There several other legal theories in the posts you listed that are clearly not true, like restrictions on traffic courts being in the Constitution.  The Constitution for the United States of America puts very few limits on the type of Courts that a State may have.  Traffic courts are actually not really courts, they are tribunals.  Tribunals are legislative courts design to oversee privilege.  The privilege of a drivers license for motor vehicle is revocable by administrative procedure.  Most people don't realize that United States Tax Courts are article 1 tribunals not real Courts.  It's why you don't have a jury trial in Tax Court and why Tax Court Judges are not part of the federal judiciary with life tenure.  You can check that out here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tribunals_in_the_United_States

Of course that raises the question what "privilege" are you exercising to be in Tax Court instead of a real Court, but that is a much more complicated subject.

As I understand it New Hampshire law provides that anyone competent can speak in court on behalf of another competent person, so the bar issue isn't really problem for Free Staters.
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