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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2003, 11:28:55 am »

32.  You can begin promoting the FSP or contacting media via. e-mail or snail mail to assist changes in the target state before even getting there.  And, like Michelle said, make sure to spread the word before leaving.  Bringing along a friend could make for good company and mutual support too.

33.  You might be able to instant message (like ICQ or AOL IM etc.) someone on-line who already lives there to get some feedback beforehand on good places to vacation, live or work.  ICQ allows you to search on-line contacts by state or city.
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2003, 05:55:23 am »

28. <snip> How can we break up the school system and not annoy too many people?

In the Oregon statutes, there's a clause about "private teachers" who need not be licensed or anything.  The target state may have a similar statute.  So be a private teacher.
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2003, 07:03:12 pm »

30.  Look into buying an SUV.  I am an environmentalist and I hate SUVs, but most of the candidate states have long, arduous winters that require a 4x4.  BTW, this means don't buy one of those new SUVs that you wouldn't even take camping, stick to the old school - Ford Explorer, Chevy Blazer, a pickup truck, whatever.  A good alternative for people who hate SUVs (such as myself), look into and push for hybrid brands, and investigate Subaru Outbacks.

Not to burst your bubble, but our 2003 Excursion which weighs in at 7,200 pounds, has a 6.0L diesel engine and can carry 7 large adults with all of their gear, gets 18 mpg around town and close to 23 mpg on the highway.  Diesel fuel is also less polluting and takes less energy to formulate than gas and bio diesel, which you can make at home is even more so.

Don't buy into misconceptions.

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And it will literally tow the house! :o ;)
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2003, 09:45:23 am »

I don't buy into misconceptions.  But the fact remains that many newer SUV models have nothing to do with sport utility.  Try taking a Mercedes SUV on that mud run like they do in the ads.

I see lots of "cleaner diesel" coming out, which is commendable, but I'm still pushing hybrid and hydrogen fuel cell technology.  SUVs serve a purpose, but they're a necessary evil IMHO.  

30.  Look into buying an SUV.  I am an environmentalist and I hate SUVs, but most of the candidate states have long, arduous winters that require a 4x4.  BTW, this means don't buy one of those new SUVs that you wouldn't even take camping, stick to the old school - Ford Explorer, Chevy Blazer, a pickup truck, whatever.  A good alternative for people who hate SUVs (such as myself), look into and push for hybrid brands, and investigate Subaru Outbacks.

Not to burst your bubble, but our 2003 Excursion which weighs in at 7,200 pounds, has a 6.0L diesel engine and can carry 7 large adults with all of their gear, gets 18 mpg around town and close to 23 mpg on the highway.  Diesel fuel is also less polluting and takes less energy to formulate than gas and bio diesel, which you can make at home is even more so.

Don't buy into misconceptions.

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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2003, 10:59:11 am »

A lot of good suggestions here! I have started using Monster.com to send me daily job openings in several of the states up for selection. They also have a handy calculator for figuring salary adjustments, moving costs, etc. I have also started looking at real estate ads online and getting a good handle on local housing costs. I am chomping at the bit to get it narrowed down to just ONE state!!!!

Suggestion: Perhaps someone could take the time to put all these suggestions into one post for printing out.  Ok, I'll do it....

1.  If you're not already, get out of debt.  Cut back on discretionary spending, and pay off high interest rate credit cards and loans.

2.  Start a separate savings fund for the move.  Estimate how much the move will cost, then add another thousand dollars to that for incidental expenses.  Figure out how much you can set aside each month, and start doing it.

3.  Subscribe to a local paper in the Free State (or read one regularly online.)  This will give you an idea of what's going on in your future home, and help with job ideas.

4.  If necessary, transition to a more portable career.  Some skills are in demand everywhere -- sales, accounting, nursing, teaching, writing, managing, etc.  If there's something you've always wanted to do, now would be a good time to start training for it.

5.  Join a Toastmaster club where you live now.  This will help improve your public speaking skills for political and career goals, and you can transfer to a new club in the Free State when you move, to meet new friends.  See http://www.toastmasters.org to find a club.

6.  As Joe has been pleading for the past year or so, visit your local city council meeting regularly and see how things get done.  Many of the same issues and objections will arise in the Free State.

7.  Volunteer for a political campaign of a viable candidate in the next election, to learn first-hand how things get done on the campaign trail.

8. Study the history and culture of the selected state. Read biography, fiction, anything related to come to know the area better.

9. Start/continue compiling statistics on the state at many levels. Create a snapshot of the state at selection which can help us decide where to locate as well as judge the effects of our announcement and any efforts as we go along.

10. If you will be seeking employment in the Free State, start researching companies that would be a good fit for you and begin networking to see if you can establish some direct contacts with people associated with these companies.

11. Keep promoting the FSP to everyone you know. Though the state may be selected, we don't reach our ultimate membership goal until we have 20,000 members.

12.  Learn to make a good beef chowder so you can ease into the beef culture of Wyoming, or the chowder culture of New Hampshire.  Seriously, stay healthy if the upcoming move is stressing--eat healthy and excercise.

13.  Check local yard sales for gaudy lawn ornaments that you may finally be permitted to display in your front yard in the free state!  Seriously, have a yard sale if you are a pack rat with a house full of crap.  
 
14 Consider buying one or more enclosed trailer(s) to transport your "stuff" and to store it when you arrive. Saves renting storage space and you can sell the trailer when you no longer need it.

15 Consider buying a vehicle capable of easily and comfortably pulling the trailer.

16. Consider buying a "fifth wheel" trailer and truck, suitable for traveling and living. Better than a motor home because trailer can be parked and truck used for errands.

17.  If you won't be moving for a few years, start planning to take your annual vacations in the Free State.  If you visit a different area each time, it would help you decide where you want to end up.  It would also make the goal of moving more tangible, and more likely to be followed through on.  Hopefully there will be an annual Freedom Fest in the chosen state every year, kind of like the Escape to NH, or the Great Western Conference, only 10 times bigger.

18. Start lightening your load. Look at everything you own, and get rid of the things you no longer need.
Give the items to charity, to a friend in need, sell them on eBay, etc.  Mark your refrigerator, washer/dryer, and other large items to be sold at that massive garage sale you will hold right before you move.
It is usually cheaper to replace items in your new location, then hire someone to move them (especially cross-country!).


19.  Go to the main web page for the state government of the selected state, and familiarize yourself with the way their government is organized, their state constitution, elections requirements, etc.

20. Familarize yourself with U.S.C. 18 Section 926a for the lawful transport of ones firearms interstate. We do not need our supporters to become convicted felons as they cross State lines with their firearms.

21. Get a non-resident concealed carry permit from the chosen Free State, if offered. Then switch to a resident permit once one is residing in the Free State.

22.  Thicken your skin.  Seriously.  You won't be an effective political activist if your feelings get hurt  or you allow yourself to lash out in anger every time someone disagrees with you, misinterprets you, questions your motives, insults you, ignores you, or flatout lies about you.  Do whatever it takes to learn how to detach from your emotions (at appropriate times, of course).  

23. There was a thread Dada started a while back about reading material to improve oneself, I think. Maybe he can find it. I think we need to do some reading, not only about the culture of the state (thank you, Cathleen) but also how to better handle ourselves in dealing with others. I suggested in that thread Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends & Influence People", a true classic and even pretty interesting to read.

24. We need to support ourselves economically. As a techie, I have struggled recently. If 5,000 of the 20,000 FSP are techies, that can be great or awful. Critical mass, plus some good business plans. I've got some plans if anyone is interested.

Reading materials: Think and Grow Rich, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, various NLP publications.

25. While we will want to fit in, we'll also want to find each other. What social circles do we move in? Unlike the Mormons, the state we move will already have a culture. Obviously, many of us are internet-savvy. We need to sharpen our sales/marketing/social skills.

Reading materials: any religious organizational material, Amway/Melaleuca material.

26. Recruit, recruit, recruit! I am currently a high scholl sub teacher. It may be an awesome recruiting ground. Remember to recruit females! Woodstock got 300,000 largely by word-of-mouth. Surely this is as big as Woodstock.

27. Investigate the Rotary, Elks, etc. Find out if there is an organization that fits your and/or FSP style. And communicate what you learn, always!

28. Get acquainted with a school board, city council, etc. Find out about Robert's Rulkes of Order. What are the legal and/or practical limits to power at the local level? How can we break up the school system and not annoy too many people?

29. If you know any foreigners, tell them about the Free State. While some will be horrified, many others will pay extremely close attention. Imagine what 10,000 FSP foreign immigrants per year could do. Say, including 1,500 Hong Kong businessfolk, 200 Scottish engineers, etc. Of course, if we get 2,000 Saudis, 3,000 Afghanis, 4,000 Iraqis and 5,000 Palestinians, we might get increased federal scrutiny.

30.  Look into buying an SUV.  I am an environmentalist and I hate SUVs, but most of the candidate states have long, arduous winters that require a 4x4.  BTW, this means don't buy one of those new SUVs that you wouldn't even take camping, stick to the old school - Ford Explorer, Chevy Blazer, a pickup truck, whatever.  A good alternative for people who hate SUVs (such as myself), look into and push for hybrid brands, and investigate Subaru Outbacks.

31. Look into establishing a local FSP group in the free state, or joining an existing one (yes, I'm going to push for centralized organization, even in innocent boards just as this one)

32.  You can begin promoting the FSP or contacting media via. e-mail or snail mail to assist changes in the target state before even getting there.  And, like Michelle said, make sure to spread the word before leaving.  Bringing along a friend could make for good company and mutual support too.

33.  You might be able to instant message (like ICQ or AOL IM etc.) someone on-line who already lives there to get some feedback beforehand on good places to vacation, live or work.  ICQ allows you to search on-line contacts by state or city.
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2003, 10:00:44 pm »

34. Start acclimating yourself (and your mind!) to a cooler climate. Pay attention to sweater/fleece/thermals sales next spring. Grab a few. If your from the south, introduce your family to "snow" this winter. Learn about the benefits of wool (and how to clean it).


Looking forward to playing with ya'll in the snow!! *puts on ducks and a fleece hat*
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New Hampshire Newspapers
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2003, 08:13:18 pm »

3.  Subscribe to a local paper in the Free State (or read one regularly online.)  This will give you an idea of what's going on in your future home, and help with job ideas.

New Hampshire Newspapers
http://www.newhampshire.com/directory/showcat.cfm?id=69&gsize=25&city=&region=

The Union Leader
http://www.theunionleader.com/

Subscribe to the Union Leader
http://www.theunionleader.com/pages/subscribe.html

Bedford Bulletin
http://www.yourneighborhoodnews.com/bulletin%20news.html
334 Route 101
Bedford, NH 03110
Phone: (603) 472-6500
   
   Berlin Daily Sun
(I can't find a website)
P.O. Box 279
Berlin, NH 03570
Phone: (603) 752-5858
Fax: (603) 752-4160
   
   Carriage Towne News
http://www.carriagetownenews.com/
14 Church Street
Kingston, NH 03848
Phone: (603) 642-4499
Contact: Electra Allesio
   
   Citizen, The
http://www.citizen.com
171 Fair Street
Laconia, NH 03246
Phone: (603) 524-3800
Fax: (603) 524-6702
   
   Concord Monitor
http://www.cmonitor.com/
1 Monitor Drive
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: (603) 224-5301
Fax: (603) 228-8238
   
   Conway Daily Sun
http://www.mountwashingtonvalley.com/
64 Seavey Street, P.O. Box 1940
North Conway, NH 03860
Phone: (603) 356-3456
Fax: (603) 356-8774
   
   Derry News
http://www.derrynews.com/
46 West Broadway
Derry, NH 03038
Phone: (603) 437-7000
   
   Eagle Times
http://www.eagle-times.com/
River Road, P.O. Box 301
Claremont, NH 03743
Phone: (603) 543-3100
Fax: (603) 542-9705
   
   Foster's Daily Democrat
http://www4.fosters.com/index_b.asp
333 Central Avenue
Dover, NH 03820
Phone: (603) 742-4455
Fax: (603) 742-3461
   
   Goffstown News, The
http://www.yourneighborhoodnews.com/Gnews%20news.html
334 Route 101
Bedford, NH 0310
Phone: (603) 472-6500
   
   Hooksett Banner, The
http://www.yourneighborhoodnews.com/banner%20news.html
334 Route 101
Bedford, NH 03110
Phone: (603) 472-6500
   
   Intertown Record
http://www.intertownrecord.com/
289 Shaker Street
North Sutton, NH 03260
Phone: (603) 927-4028
   
   Keene Sentinel
http://www.keenesentinel.com/
60 West Street, P.O. Box 546
Keene, NH 03431
Phone: (603) 352-1234
Fax: (603) 352-0437
   
   Laconia Daily Sun
http://www.laconiadailysun.com/
65 Water Street
Laconia, NH 03246
Phone: (603) 527-9299
Fax: (603) 527-0056
   
   Manchester Airport News
(I can't find a website)
P.O. Box 6393
Manchester, NH 03108
Phone: (603) 629-4818
Fax: (603) 487-2190
Contact: Don Willet
   
   Milford Cabinet
http://www.cabinet.com/
54 School Street, P.O. Box 180
Milford, NH 03055
Phone: (603) 673-3100
   
   New Hampshire Business Review
http://www.nhbr.com/
150 Dow Street
Manchester, NH 03101
Phone: (603) 624-1442
   
   Colebrook News and Sentinel
http://www.colbsent.com
P.O. Box 39
Colebrook, NH 03576
Phone: 800-521-5501
   
   Northcountry News
http://www.northcountrynewsnh.com/
P.O. Box 10
Warren, NH 03279
Phone: (603) 764-5807
Fax: (603) 764-5807
Contact: Bryan Flagg
   
   Portsmouth Herald/Herald Sunday
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/
111 Maplewood Avenue
Portsmouth, NH 03801
Phone: (603) 436-1800
Fax: (603) 427-0550
   
   Seabrook's HomeTown Journal
http://www.seabrookhtj.com/
93 Railroad Avenue
Seabrook, NH 03874
Phone: (603) 474-5034
Fax: (603) 474-9031
Contact: Shelly Carter
   
   Telegraph, The
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/
17 Executive Drive
Nashua, NH 03051
Phone: (603) 882-2741
Fax: (603) 882-5138
   
   Valley News
(I can't find a website)
24 Interchange Drive
West Lebanon, NH 03784
Phone: (603) 298-8711
Fax: (603) 298-0212

   The New Hampshire Online
http://www.tnh.unh.edu/
Student-run newspaper of the University of New Hampshire in Durham.

   The New Hampshire Gazette
http://www.nhgazette.com/
The nation's oldest newspaper

New Hampshire Newspapers
http://www.allyoucanread.com/news.asp?id=P36

New Hampshire Newspapers
http://www.nhbr.com/main.asp?SectionID=45&SubSectionID=85
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Whoever lives in New Hampshire, please raise your hand
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2003, 08:15:52 pm »

33.  You might be able to instant message (like ICQ or AOL IM etc.) someone on-line who already lives there to get some feedback beforehand on good places to vacation, live or work.  ICQ allows you to search on-line contacts by state or city.

OK, so would those of us who already live in New Hampshire please stand up?
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Robert's Rules of Order + School Boards
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2003, 08:32:45 pm »

28. Get acquainted with a school board, city council, etc. Find out about Robert's Rulkes of Order.

http://www.robertsrules.com/

http://www.constitution.org/rror/rror--00.htm

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How can we break up the school system and not annoy too many people?

Instead of pushing (the schools to stop), pull (the kids out of school).  Support home-schooling.  I see no reason why we can't go to school board meetings and advertise home schooling to the parents attending.  The powers-that-be won't like that, of course.  And certainly nobody will get elected to the school board on such a platform.

The school board is in the business of providing education, not allowing other people to provide education.  In fact they have a mandate from the State.  I heard of one case where a student was expelled and the parents said, "OK, now how do you plan to discharge your legal duty to educate this kid?  Are you going to pay for a private tutor?"  The kid was un-expelled immediately.

Yes, some people will be annoyed, unavoidably.  The trick is to pull instead of pushing.  Get as many parents on board as possible.  
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2003, 08:39:55 pm »

20. Familarize yourself with U.S.C. 18 Section 926a for the lawful transport of ones firearms interstate. We do not need our supporters to become convicted felons as they cross State lines with their firearms.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/926.html

There should be corresponding regulations but I can't figure it out:

http://cfr.law.cornell.edu/cfr/
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Re:Robert's Rules of Order + School Boards
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2003, 08:44:11 am »

28. Get acquainted with a school board, city council, etc. Find out about Robert's Rulkes of Order.

http://www.robertsrules.com/

http://www.constitution.org/rror/rror--00.htm

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How can we break up the school system and not annoy too many people?

Instead of pushing (the schools to stop), pull (the kids out of school).  Support home-schooling.  I see no reason why we can't go to school board meetings and advertise home schooling to the parents attending.  The powers-that-be won't like that, of course.  And certainly nobody will get elected to the school board on such a platform.

The school board is in the business of providing education, not allowing other people to provide education.  In fact they have a mandate from the State.  I heard of one case where a student was expelled and the parents said, "OK, now how do you plan to discharge your legal duty to educate this kid?  Are you going to pay for a private tutor?"  The kid was un-expelled immediately.

Yes, some people will be annoyed, unavoidably.  The trick is to pull instead of pushing.  Get as many parents on board as possible.  

Might want to this one very slowly, since people get really mad about any disruption in the education system. Getting a few more private schools in place before anything else would help, of course.
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2003, 01:01:03 pm »

35.  There will only be a limited number of potential porcupines in New Hampshire, so make sure you spread the word before leaving.  Spamming a parking lot with a couple hundred of these could do the trick.

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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2003, 09:56:44 pm »

As a native of the bay state i can only suggest to those of you who are coming from the west coast to try to visit NH in the winter when the snow is on the ground. Why you ask? LOL because my friends if you are not accustomed to the white stuff and should you not have the correct clothing it will not  matter if you are free.

Learn to make New England clam chowder or any heavy thick soup which will sustain you when it is chilly.
Bring lots of blankets, comforters, snow shoes, socks, tee shirts and gloves, and don't forget your hat!

Lots of love

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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2004, 01:01:13 am »

Item #36(?)
 This is really meant to supplement item #2 about saving money for the move. If you have a good idea of what region or town you'd like to settle in, visit that area and open a savings account in one of the local banks.  If it will be a while before you move from your old place, you can always mail deposits to your New Hampshire bank so you have some starting capital to work with once you move.  This is what I've already done myself. : ;)
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Re:101 things to do to prepare for the move
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2004, 09:10:51 pm »

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When you move to NH try to advertise your move (and why!) as much as possible.  Have signs on your vehicle with the FSP's website, write a letter to the editor in you local paper like you're a neo-Homesteader/refugee and imploring other to do the same before you move, when holding a garage/yard sale before you move advertise WHY you are doing such a large-scale sale of your stuff in signs for it, etc.

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