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Author Topic: How do we change the NH state constitution so we can abolish public schools?  (Read 20866 times)

antistate1190

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This is something that must be discussed. We can't have a voluntary society as long as schooling is compulsory. Since the NH constitutions REQUIRES coercive schooling the FSP should find ways to change it so that schooling is no longer required and government schools are abolished. What can we do?
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The FSP's only job is to get people to move here...after that it is up to another entity.
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John Edward Mercier

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And create an uneducated mass unable to provide for themselves? Only to discover their power at the ballot box?
Sort of self-defeating in the current system.
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And create an uneducated mass unable to provide for themselves? Only to discover their power at the ballot box?
Sort of self-defeating in the current system.


Look, if parents want their children to be educated they can take them to the library or teach their kids how to educate themselves. Gov. schools are prisons (watch Ridley's videos.) We don't need more schools. We need less schools and more jobs. Abolish child labor laws so we can get these kids working and learning REAL responsibility. We have too many kids who are being indoctrinated by schools and who have no idea how to work. Why do you think so many young ppl are turning to communism and anarchist socialism these days? They don't understand you have to respect your boss to get paid so they whine and blame capitalism for THEIR problems. They need to get out of marxist gov. schools and get into the workplace at 10 or 11 so they learn hard work early.

No I'm not trolling.
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And create an uneducated mass unable to provide for themselves? Only to discover their power at the ballot box?
Sort of self-defeating in the current system.


Look, if parents want their children to be educated they can take them to the library or teach their kids how to educate themselves. Gov. schools are prisons (watch Ridley's videos.) We don't need more schools. We need less schools and more jobs. Abolish child labor laws so we can get these kids working and learning REAL responsibility. We have too many kids who are being indoctrinated by schools and who have no idea how to work. Why do you think so many young ppl are turning to communism and anarchist socialism these days? They don't understand you have to respect your boss to get paid so they whine and blame capitalism for THEIR problems. They need to get out of marxist gov. schools and get into the workplace at 10 or 11 so they learn hard work early.

No I'm not trolling.

 I would say that there needs to be a LOT more people here.
A lot more outreach
A lot more choices for parents to have
and then something can be approached.

but all of the above is 15 years off (at least)
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John Edward Mercier

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Parents don't have a responsibility to their children. The child is 'born free and independent', not chattel.

I can find better educated workers for less in other countries.
So the children grow up... can't find work... vote themselves benefits.
And its not child labor laws restricting my options for workers... enter any unemployment office and plenty of adult workers without jobs.


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Parents don't have a responsibility to their children. The child is 'born free and independent', not chattel.





what?  parents don't have a responsibility to their children?  Are you out of you F*** mind?
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antistate1190

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Parents don't have a responsibility to their children. The child is 'born free and independent', not chattel.

I can find better educated workers for less in other countries.
So the children grow up... can't find work... vote themselves benefits.
And its not child labor laws restricting my options for workers... enter any unemployment office and plenty of adult workers without jobs.




You don't realize that schooling dumbs children down which is why there inadequate workers once there out of college and have to get jobs. If I was a boss and I had to choose between a 14-year old who never went to school in his life but educated himself and a 23-year old fresh out of UNH I'd hire the 14-year old hands down.

We don't need more schooling. We need LESS. Most children in the world have never been to school in their lives and they work way harder in their countries then young Americans do. Americans are the laughing stock in the world b/c of all the schooling that dumbs us down.
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antistate1190

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And create an uneducated mass unable to provide for themselves? Only to discover their power at the ballot box?
Sort of self-defeating in the current system.


Look, if parents want their children to be educated they can take them to the library or teach their kids how to educate themselves. Gov. schools are prisons (watch Ridley's videos.) We don't need more schools. We need less schools and more jobs. Abolish child labor laws so we can get these kids working and learning REAL responsibility. We have too many kids who are being indoctrinated by schools and who have no idea how to work. Why do you think so many young ppl are turning to communism and anarchist socialism these days? They don't understand you have to respect your boss to get paid so they whine and blame capitalism for THEIR problems. They need to get out of marxist gov. schools and get into the workplace at 10 or 11 so they learn hard work early.

No I'm not trolling.

 I would say that there needs to be a LOT more people here.
A lot more outreach
A lot more choices for parents to have
and then something can be approached.

but all of the above is 15 years off (at least)

The School Sucks Project is a good place to start. How many kids did they convince to drop out of the state education camps so far?
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You don't realize that schooling dumbs children down which is why there inadequate workers once there out of college and have to get jobs. If I was a boss and I had to choose between a 14-year old who never went to school in his life but educated himself and a 23-year old fresh out of UNH I'd hire the 14-year old hands down.

We don't need more schooling. We need LESS. Most children in the world have never been to school in their lives and they work way harder in their countries then young Americans do.

Point of order: that's ridiculous. (1) There aren't inadequate workers out of college--right now, there's a job shortage, not a worker shortage. (2) Hard work is not a measure of success, or economic improvement, or happiness. I doubt a whole lot of children--or their parents, for them--are going to aspire to carry jugs of water 15 miles or pound grain every evening to make an evening meal. "Hard work", as a value, is quite overrated. But it's good if the common folk value it; keeps 'em busy.

Americans are the laughing stock in the world b/c of all the schooling that dumbs us down.

And yet people come from all over the world to use our first-rate, post-secondary educational system...
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You don't realize that schooling dumbs children down which is why there inadequate workers once there out of college and have to get jobs.
why they're inadequate workers

sorry - I just couldn't resist  :o
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You don't realize that schooling dumbs children down which is why there inadequate workers once there out of college and have to get jobs. If I was a boss and I had to choose between a 14-year old who never went to school in his life but educated himself and a 23-year old fresh out of UNH I'd hire the 14-year old hands down.

We don't need more schooling. We need LESS. Most children in the world have never been to school in their lives and they work way harder in their countries then young Americans do.

Point of order: that's ridiculous. (1) There aren't inadequate workers out of college--right now, there's a job shortage, not a worker shortage. (2) Hard work is not a measure of success, or economic improvement, or happiness. I doubt a whole lot of children--or their parents, for them--are going to aspire to carry jugs of water 15 miles or pound grain every evening to make an evening meal. "Hard work", as a value, is quite overrated. But it's good if the common folk value it; keeps 'em busy.



If kids out of college had a real education they would know how to start their own jobs regardless if the corporations are hiring. That's the beauty of capitalism. But schools don't teach kids how to be responsible.
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Schooling dumbs children down? Is that all schooling? So why wouldn't the parents schooling their children at the publicly-supported library be dumbing them down?

Working harder than young Americans is why many get better educations when its provided to them...
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Parents don't have a responsibility to their children. The child is 'born free and independent', not chattel.





what?  parents don't have a responsibility to their children?  Are you out of you F*** mind?
Nope.
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Point of order: that's ridiculous. (1) There aren't inadequate workers out of college--right now, there's a job shortage, not a worker shortage. 

It seems to me that a job is created when some work is identified as valuable. Identifying what would be valuable to do is itself a job; a job for which it seems difficult to find qualified applicants.


(2) Hard work is not a measure of success, or economic improvement, or happiness. I doubt a whole lot of children--or their parents, for them--are going to aspire to carry jugs of water 15 miles or pound grain every evening to make an evening meal. "Hard work", as a value, is quite overrated. But it's good if the common folk value it; keeps 'em busy.

I absolutely agree. Finding an easy way to accomplish any goal should be the goal!

 
And yet people come from all over the world to use our first-rate, post-secondary educational system...

The best in a terrible set can still be pretty bad. Also it isn't fair to overlook the fact that people from 'our' geographical area travel to all parts of the world to learn too.
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