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The Socialist

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Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« on: October 11, 2005, 02:00:24 am »

How many of yall are Anarchists?

I didn't find any post like this in a quick search, but how many of the pledgers or friends of the FSP are really anarchists? 

I am a deeply rooted anarcho-capitalist... (dont tell anyone else in the other forums, they think I'm a socialist)
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2005, 10:53:57 am »

Well, the President of the FSP for one . . .
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 04:30:38 pm »

I prefer "Free Marketeer"  ;D
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 05:45:19 pm »

I'm a proud Anarcho-capitalist.

Please, though, don't tell my Mom, she's still grappling mightily with my Atheist-Vegetarian identity  ;D

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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2005, 08:20:20 pm »

I'm a proud Anarcho-capitalist.

Please, though, don't tell my Mom, she's still grappling mightily with my Atheist-Vegetarian identity  ;D

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           LOL my parents would worry more about me being an Atheist than not not wanting anything to do with the government, disliking the government they understand and probally approve( after all government is for the rich folks living in the burbs and cities anyway not for regular everyday folk)  but they don't want me to go to hell, its bad enough that I'm not a Christian.
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 01:18:19 am »


Please, though, don't tell my Mom, she's still grappling mightily with my Atheist-Vegetarian identity  ;D



I forgot where I read it, but somebody once said about vegetarianism:

"It's a philosophy that encourages the killing and eating of life forms, but only ones that can't scream or run away."

Since I'm going off of memory, apologies for jumbling up or otherwise misquoting the above.

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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2005, 06:34:31 pm »

somebody once said about vegetarianism:
"It's a philosophy that encourages the killing and eating of life forms, but only ones that can't scream or run away."

Oh yeah. That's why I like to eat Sprouts.
You know, the tinly little alfalfa plants that never even got a chance to grow into maturity?
It's like the Veal of vegetarianism.

God, I love sprouts.

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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 08:50:09 am »

Having a limited government is practically the essence of capitalism (because of the seperation of state and economics, required by a truly free market), so I don't think that wanting to specifically state the limitations of the government's power to interfere in your life makes you an anarchist. Besides, having no government at all would be the death of capitalism, because there would be nothing to protect you from criminals; such a system would quickly collapse into gang warfare, because that would be the only way that people could protect themselves. If capitalism is an economic (and political) sytem based on the protection of individual rights, including property rights, then it's a blatant contradiction-in-terms to speak of anarcho-capitalism, unless the term has nothing to do with anarchism. But in that case, why use it?

Governments are necessary, but it is of utmost importance that their functioning is restricted to only protect the rights of the citizens, and nothing else. If there is no legal system left to solve disputes between citizens (which is one of the functions of a proper goverment) then the only other way to deal with those is by use of force; ergo you get some form of gang warfare, which is not in the best interest of a society.
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 10:04:49 am »

What we need is not a government or a state but a web of competing* institutions. We all know that the market is far more able to provide solutions than any coercive monopoly. Such a coercive monopoly can only be broken with a right to secede if wanted (i.e. cancelling the contract).


* competing for customers of course, not for cognizances

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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2006, 10:34:01 am »

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Such a coercive monopoly can only be broken with a right to secede if wanted

there is literally no place to go that eventually force will have to be used when dominion is established over a specific territory
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2006, 11:17:20 am »

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Such a coercive monopoly can only be broken with a right to secede if wanted

there is literally no place to go that eventually force will have to be used when dominion is established over a specific territory

Right, then the first step is maybe to make perpetual dominion without consent illegitimate.
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2006, 11:19:25 am »

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Such a coercive monopoly can only be broken with a right to secede if wanted

there is literally no place to go that eventually force will have to be used when dominion is established over a specific territory

Right, then the first step is maybe to make perpetual dominion without consent illegitimate.

Have to answer over in the commons section:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=11597.msg153930#msg153930

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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2006, 11:44:24 pm »

Nice thread. I'm an Anarchist, but I don't understand how you can fit capitalism (to my mind, a titanic impediment to Liberty and personal Sovereignty, and the cause of untold Human Suffering) into anarchism. I can't conceive a corporate capitalistic state, and its sizeless hunger for Profit,  existing within the philosophy of anarchism. I'm not that smart to figure it all out, but it doesn't make sense to me. ???
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2006, 01:24:57 am »

Nice thread. I'm an Anarchist, but...

Anarchy could mean a lot of things.  Let's say it means no government.  That equals lots of personal and economic freedom.  Economic freedom allows for big, large companies.
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Re: Anarchists/Anarcho-capitalism
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 02:05:44 am »

I don't understand how you can fit capitalism (to my mind, a titanic impediment to Liberty and personal Sovereignty, and the cause of untold Human Suffering) into anarchism.
Capitalism could mean a lot of things. Let's say it means respect for the human right to own and trade property and enter into contracts by mutual consent. Why is that incompatible with anarchy?
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