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New Hampshire -- The "Live Free or Die" State => Education/ Homeschooling => Topic started by: hguderian on February 14, 2005, 06:48:13 am

Title: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: hguderian on February 14, 2005, 06:48:13 am
The high school debate has reached a new low.  Recently, those of us opposed to a high school in Bedford distributed fliers comparing the tactics of the high school proponents to the "Final Solution."  At last week's deliberative session, school board member Dave Sacks claimed to be insulted by this reference.  His goal was to smear us as reactionary "Nazis."  Instead, we feel that the town is being hijacked like Germany in the '30s.  I realize that our language may be extreme but we found it necessary to dramatize what is truly happening in Bedford.  Groups of outsiders have moved into Bedford from MA, NJ, NY, etc. and brought a big government tax and spend mentality with them.  They are corrupting the state's traditional "Live Free or Die" value system with their big fancy homes and luxury SUVs while expecting the long term residents to foot the bill for their extravagant lifestyle.  Needless to say, the Free State Project may be too little, too late in keeping libertarian values intact.  Their numbers are greater, their pockets deeper and their venom is deadly.  I must liken them to "Nazis" or any other political entity seeking total control over the population.  If you dissent and fight back, you get labeled an obstructionist or, even worse, a Nazi.  I stand with many in town who will not give up the fight to save our beloved town and state from those seeking to impose their outside way of thinking on the people of New Hampshire.  I write this to warn the Free State Project participants what they can expect in many towns within southern New Hampshire.  This part of the state has become an extension of Taxachusetts.  I urge all of you to support your local taxpayer association.

H.G.
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: hguderian on February 14, 2005, 10:05:34 am
Let's get off the Guderian thing and your attempt to smear the Academy as a "Nazi" project.

Oh, I see, you wanted to save the "Nazi" accusation to use on your opponents.  ::)

If the shoe fits, put it in your mouth.
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: hguderian on February 14, 2005, 05:00:55 pm
Let's get off the Guderian thing and your attempt to smear the Academy as a "Nazi" project.

Oh, I see, you wanted to save the "Nazi" accusation to use on your opponents.  ::)

Oh, you are part of the same group smearing Father Gannon as part of some plot to turn the Bedford Academy into a religious school.  The country has gone insane in that you can teach about anything but religion in schools today.

HG
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: Green on February 14, 2005, 05:13:22 pm
Let's get off the Guderian thing and your attempt to smear the Academy as a "Nazi" project.

Oh, I see, you wanted to save the "Nazi" accusation to use on your opponents.  ::)

Oh, you are part of the same group smearing Father Gannon as part of some plot to turn the Bedford Academy into a religious school.  The country has gone insane in that you can teach about anything but religion in schools today.

HG

So you're telling me that they never teach about religion in school today?  You're kidding, right?  Preaching religious doctrine as truth is not the same thing as teaching about religion.  In fact, they still focus pretty heavily upon the Judeo-Christian tradition, to the exclusion of other belief systems, they just always make a disclaimer about not preaching religious views, just "presenting" them as they are taught in the particular religious tradition being studied.
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: Grunt on February 15, 2005, 07:18:40 am
Its wonderful to see all these free state types, being pro-homeschooling, harbor the typical anarchist/communist anti-Christian knee-jerk responses. Pavlovians  too ignorant to see that in the end, the globalist masses will tar and feather both groups with equal vigor.   

Its gonna be a thing of beauty to watch this whole thing come crashing down around thier heads. Ill have my bowl of popcorn and the sheep-like look of bewilderment on your collective faces will be well worth the wait.

 

 
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: jeanius on February 17, 2005, 09:04:21 am
Well, this "free state type" who is pro-homeschooling, doesn't harbor "typical anarchist/communist anti-Christian" views.  I'm a secular homeschooler who 1) greatly appreciates the work Christian homeschoolers have done to protect my right to homeschool. 2) is more minarchist than anarchist and 3) feels that philosophical or any other approach to homeschooling is no one's business but parents' and families'.  I am anti-government schooling.  But other than that what I feel strongly about is PARENT'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.  The state should not dictate in any direction. 

I have many more issues with government schooling than those about religion.  History is skewed and textbooks are highly politiicized.  Teaching has a huge "crowd control" element.  Government ideals are a routine part of the daily school experience. 

Private alternatives to public schooling would work better to give more people what they want.  A few private schools could cater to the community better than one government institution.

Jean
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: RidleyReport on February 18, 2005, 01:43:12 pm
hguderian:

Welcome to the Free State Forums... however there is an even better forum to which I'd like to invite you:

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?board=1.0

That forum (the New Hampshire Underground)  is more action oriented than this one and it's more NH-based.

In anticipation of your arrival there I have taken the liberty of starting a thread dedicated to *you.*

See you there.   
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: Dreepa on February 18, 2005, 02:38:51 pm
Although having them around is entertainment.
I also think that they provide counterpoints that FSPers may not have thought of.
And..... shutting people out is not the way to silence people.  That is just censorship.

Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: Dreepa on February 18, 2005, 03:29:41 pm
Fisher I will bite.

Who should provide for retirement for an individual?

Should 'rich' people ( you tell me how much per year is rich) pay a higher percentage of taxes?

Are unions for teachers good?

Should the government ever care about my private life?

Answer those and I will tell you if you are a socialist.
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: hguderian on February 21, 2005, 09:12:18 am
Fisher,

Father Gannon is an priest working with Haig Yahooobian to bring the Bedford Academy to life.  Because he is a priest, people point to his involvement in the project and claim that the school will be a Christian school.  It is a load of bunk meant to fool the stupid.  Also, some try to link his status as a priest to the cover up of molestation in the church.  Father Gannon has to deal with those who now think poorly of all priests.

Understand now?

HG
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: Green on March 03, 2005, 01:38:06 pm
Let's get off the Guderian thing and your attempt to smear the Academy as a "Nazi" project.

Oh, I see, you wanted to save the "Nazi" accusation to use on your opponents.  ::)

Oh, you are part of the same group smearing Father Gannon as part of some plot to turn the Bedford Academy into a religious school.  The country has gone insane in that you can teach about anything but religion in schools today.

WTF are you talking about? I don't know who Father Gannon is.

I have not said anything for or against Bedford Academy.

hgunderian,

Ignore Green and fisher.  They are not free staters; they are socialist trolls who are scared to death of what the FSP represents, and are here to disrupt the FSP's forum.  The moderators have unwisely chosen to let them to stick around.
As a NH resident, I am not allowed to be a free stater.

If you ignore all the people in NH who are not free staters......you will be ignoring 99.99975% of the population.

325 free staters in NH / 1,300,000 NH population = 0.00025% of NH population are freestaters.

If you consider speaking the truth as disrupting the FSP forum, then yes, that is why I am here.

Do you really think I am scared to death of what the FSP represents? Have you been talking to Mike Lorrey?

Please articulate what the FSP represents, and I will tell you if I am scared to death of it.

If you want to label me as a socialist, you will probably have to label about 98% or more of the NH population as socialists.

What have I said/written that leads you to believe I am a socialist?

Thank you fisher.  Do you live in NH?

Like I said before, the FSP is "collectivist" in nature.  What if the people of NH WANT to keep their public schools and social welfare programs?  Don't they have the right to do that without someone telling them they have to privatize it?

The modern "Libertarian" movement is nothing but a cult gloryifying unbridled capitalism, and they will do whatever it takes until everything has been privatized, commodified, corporatizied, and the world is a cut-throat, dog-eat-dog, servant of sheer concentrated corporate capital and corporate power.

Personally, I'm not scared of them because I trust that the public is smart enough to know better than to fall for their faux-arguments.  They recieve millions of dollars from corporate donors every year, and in the last election actually spent the most money per vote of any presidential candidate nationally.

My only beef with them is that they call themselves "Libertarians", which they aren't.  They are neo-liberals.  I am a real Libertarian- an anarcho-communist.
Title: Re: Bedford "Nazis"
Post by: mvpel on March 04, 2005, 08:03:15 am
Leave, Freeze or Die
- Mar. 1, 2005
(http://www.newhampshire.com/doclib/lfd/030105-lg.jpg)

Typical leftist claptrap - they assume that because we don't think the government should be involved in every aspect of our lives, we therefore think that education is a bad thing.  It's as if they think there's no such thing as charity or volunteerism unless it's compelled at the point of a gun, and that mandatory government-run schools have always existed since the beginning of time, instead of being brought to America by Horace Mann 150 years ago.