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Title: What makes a job ethical?
Post by: Danarchist on September 18, 2018, 12:47:00 pm
Job-searching has forced me to consider the ethics of jobs. What makes a job ethical or unethical? I approach the question as a voluntarist.

Is it the number of steps removed from bad behavior? For example, once I turned down a job offer that was soldering electronics, and the main product they went to was bombs. If dropping bombs on innocent people is bad, then I figured helping make the bombs is also bad, one step removed from the crime. So how many steps removed does a job have to be to be acceptable? If there is an intermediary, does blame lie on that person?

Or would it be a portion of the job that supports bad behavior? For example, the Sig plant in New Hampshire does not sell guns exclusively to police officers, I'm sure. So would if I don't support police as they currently operate, would a job that spends half its time supplying them be okay? 25% of the time? 10%?

If working with children, at what age do you feel children shouldn't be ordered around?

The more restrictive the job pool is for voluntarists, the larger the need for voluntarist entrepreneurs and a voluntarist community to support them.

ADDITION, 2019-2-13:

I was thinking of working for a product design company. Usually they get approached by outside interests, e.g. inventors, and build for them. But then I started thinking about patents and while I'm very sympathetic to the idea of intellectual property, I don't feel comfortable with it. Maybe if I'm not the one filing the patent I'd be okay with it, even though engineers need to document extensively to support patent accrual.

Being a vegan voluntaryist with no social structure of like-minded people has made the job search very complicated. Makes me want to move to NH more. But many of us are so new to voluntaryism that it's like the blind leading the blind. We don't have the benefit of generations before us passing on their wisdom.
Title: Re: What makes a job ethical?
Post by: dude6935 on November 23, 2018, 05:56:43 pm
Good question, and difficult to answer.

If you start at the extreme, say you are in the Army. Is that unethical on its face? I don't think so. I think you can justify working for the military if you were truly working against the military. Sadly 99% of people in the Army aren't doing that, but they could.

So I think the real question is how you spend your energy on net. Can you do more for liberty as someone closer to the inside or the outside? IDK, maybe you could answer that for yourself.
Title: Re: What makes a job ethical?
Post by: RidleyReport on January 17, 2019, 01:37:06 pm
It needs to not involve or be funded through acts of aggression against others.   if it involves fraud, then the fraud would have to be defensive/retaliatory/proportionate in nature... i.e. if your job was to work for the Zapatistas against the authoritarian mexican government , some trickery might be acceptable :)

obviously the latter case would be very unusual/limited; generally fraud should be completely avoided.