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Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: elkingrey on August 23, 2015, 02:52:28 pm
Sadly, there is no "public" NH militia in New Hampshire.

I'm an anarchist who would have really enjoyed joining the military for the training, discipline, camaraderie, etc. but was unwilling to do so because of how corrupt of an organization it is.

I hope that some sort of organization that resembles boot camp and combat training pops up in New Hampshire in the near future, but ISN'T run by minarchists who continue to wave the flag, or support the "republic" etc.

My ideal militia would be run by anarchists, for anarchists, whose sole purpose is combat training. More like a for-profit combat school. No real organization that would obviously be infiltrated by the feds. There are for profit schools for martial arts. For profit schools for marksmanship, etc. But no such thing as military style combat training.

I'm actually kind of baffled that ex-military haven't created such a thing yet. There are plenty of ex-military turned anarchist, but they never think to share their knowledge in a for-profit type model. Shame really. I'd pay good money for three months of boot camp combat training. I doubt very many others would, though. So, there's that. Simply not enough demand.

Maybe in the future when more people start to think like I do will it be economically feasible to pull something like that off.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: elkingrey on August 23, 2015, 03:40:22 pm
Yes, I agree. Carla Gericke, the FSP President, often refers to New Hampshire as the Switzerland of the United States. Well, I'd love to see the "citizenry" of "New Hampshire" be comprised of tens of thousands of well trained and disciplined individuals, even if they aren't "organized" in any sort of official "militia."
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: elkingrey on August 23, 2015, 07:17:12 pm
I do not know of any good gun clubs. I was given the signup form for one of the "best" I was told and it required joining the NRA in order to join the club/range. I threw it away.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: JasonPSorens on August 23, 2015, 07:18:02 pm
Enfield Outing Club is highly regarded in my area.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Bounds Family on August 25, 2015, 11:52:56 am
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Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: MikeyL on September 03, 2015, 12:56:47 am
There are said to be militias, especially up north, but they are quiet and reserved. Occasionally, youll see a three percenter flag. Actually in general, youll see a lot of that attitude. If NH ever were attacked by the Feds, most of the people would form up to defend. I am skeptical that would ever happen. By the time we would be able to pursue independence, it would be too late for the Feds to do anything.

Training is a good idea tho.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Luck on October 28, 2015, 08:45:29 pm
http://Oathkeepers.org (http://Oathkeepers.org) has been promoting things like this for preparedness. The Bundy ranch was/is assisted by Oathkeepers and CSPOA. I don't trust CSPOA much, because they may be controlled by Mormons, and their religion is very abusive, I believe. Oathkeepers also associates with the John Birch Society, which I don't trust either. But Oathkeepers' principles seem to be very good.

Oathkeepers promotes Community Preparedness Teams, which is explained at http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/cpt-community-preparedness-teams/ (http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/cpt-community-preparedness-teams/).
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: bmyze316 on December 08, 2015, 12:44:05 pm
I would definitely be interested in joining a militia group in NH. My family and I are moving to NH within the next two months. We will be in the Greenfield area, near Keene and Manchester. I am an Army veteran and 3 time combat infantrymen. message me if anyone wants to start a local group.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: EngulfandDevour on April 06, 2016, 11:11:42 am
Here's a link to a Washington Times article about a survey conducted by the Military Times that says the military is made up of a whopping 9% libertarians and climbing fast!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/25/military-no-less-conservative-less-republican-surv/

Should things start taking off in NH, I think they'll have our backs. 
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Instinct2Bfree on June 20, 2017, 09:04:40 am
I agree with elkingrey. Ex-military turned anarchist would be most valuable towards the push for real freedom. People need to stop dodging the fact that real,bloody revolution is required to protect our goal of a stateless society. Flaunting freedom and the growing police state do not mesh. Head on collision is imminent. 2nd best thing you can do (besides real combat training) is  arm yourself to the teeth. Learn to shoot. Be physically fit. Know that we need DISSIDENTS.  "Oathkeepers" is a statist organization that will get us no where. You can't beat the system and abide by the system at the same time. "peace" officers are police officers and you'll never remove the statism from their indoctrinated brains. I have far more respect for the black hoodie wearing molotov throwers than any statist. You either GET IT or you DON"T GET IT.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 26, 2017, 03:52:27 pm
Promoting violent revolution is not acceptable - a longstanding FSP policy. I've banned this user, who's also been repeatedly making off-topic posts.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Retiree on July 20, 2017, 02:24:58 am
First of all I would preface this by noting that I would not join any militia. Furthermore, I would stress that advocating the violent overthrow of government is both illegal (treasonous) and immoral.

However, the idea of having a group of people who altruistically work together to help others is one that many libertarians I know support. To that end, what about training to support search and rescue or to assist in disasters? This has the same benefits of “militia training” but with a positive focus. (not to mention without the connotations of treason and violence)
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: KDus on August 22, 2017, 04:43:55 pm
Anecdotes:
Moved to Missouri. Discovered they have an actual actively trained Militia that gets a little funding from Riverboat gambling via the Sec of State. (Wikipedia is wrong)
They are subservient to the Nat Guard, thus I can't support it.

Took my brothers shooting. They own guns, we are Eagle Scouts and one of them is a prison guard. They had trouble hitting the paper.

Lesson: The right to bear arms ain't worth much if you don't know what to do with it.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Retiree on September 07, 2017, 05:12:24 am
one of them is a prison guard . . . [and] had trouble hitting the paper.

Shocking shocking! I once saw the LA sheriffs cadets shoot, the safest place on that range was right in front of the targets.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: ThomJeff on December 09, 2017, 10:22:05 pm
I tend to prefer organization, but oppose centralization.

However in this age of technology, being able to keep in constant communication with other "militants" is probably all the organization we would need.

Are there any gun clubs that you know of? That could be a good start.

Militia ≠Militants...these are DRASTICALLY different things. The latter being the sort of thing I would imagine the FSP is not in support of.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: TheMopPetal2 on January 15, 2018, 03:55:45 pm
I think Derrick Bronze idea of Freedom Cells(which is similar to OathKeepers CPT) is a good one and I think it’s something that could flourish in NH. Basically you have groups of 5-9 people who all learn specialized skills like growing food, building shelters, canning, self defense, etc and each person whose an expert in their skill teaches everyone else their skill so that everyone has a working knowledge. Much like CPT the goal of a freedom cell is to be able to survive any sort of disaster or emergency situation as a community weather it’s an economic collapse, a natural disaster, or something else. I think where it differs from Oath Keepers version is the decentralized nature of Freedom Cells. You could have several Freedom Cells voluntarily join together for strength in numbers and mutual aid benefit during an emergency and then disband when it’s over.

I am going to be moving to NH within the next 3 years and I’m also interested in joining or setting up a Freedom Cell or CPT type group.
Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Luck on January 31, 2019, 10:15:32 am
FORGET OATHKEEPERS.
I no longer support Oathkeepers, as I believe they're likely trying to turn the U.S. into a Mormon country and thus only pretending to be patriotic supporters of the Constitution.

"Stewart Rhodes is the charismatic Executive Director of Oath Keepers and a former Mormon turned Evangelical."
That's from https://edberry.com/blog/polymontana/party-tea/the-four-faces-of-the-republican-party/

I suspect that Rhodes became Evangelical only to prevent further distrust of his motives as a Mormon.

The Mormon religion is surely based on lies and its leaders promote the same lies as well as promoting abuse of members via cultish means.

Title: Re: Militia Defense Groups?
Post by: Rocky1776 on February 03, 2019, 01:15:09 am
I would like to learn some military or survival skills.  I don't think that there is any near term need for militias, but I have long thought it would be a healthy thing for our liberties for the institution to be reinstated on a voluntary basis.  But with or without any group or organization, it never hurts to be prepared.