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Title: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 05, 2012, 09:15:28 pm
Hi. I haven't been logged in for quite a while, but I want to start with a thanks for all the hard work people are doing.

There are a couple of questions about this year's LF that I'd love to get answers to, but let's go with the big one.  A little background: I've sorta been to two Porcfests, but, frankly, neither was the greatest experience for a person who doesn't know anyone already in the movement.  I basically walked around with beers (and my Girlfriend one year) while watching other people have good times, starting the occasional conversation with other solitary souls who also wished there were some logical or organized way to meet people.

I'd like to go to my first LF, I really would, but I'm very hesitant because of the experiences I had at PF.  To be fair, I did not camp at PF and only went over for a few day trips, but I'd be doing the same thing at LF. 

I've heard all the "meet people on the boards first" and "just go up and introduce yourself" stuff.  That doesn't really work. 

Are there some arrangements to allow people new to the area to meet one another and those people already in NH?  If not, I'd be willing to help someone put something together.  I think it should be recurring since some people come to these events for single days, and that seems to be encouraged by organizers. 

thanks
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: 1212jtraceur on January 08, 2012, 12:00:52 am
I can't really say too much about LF, but I just wanted to say that I'm sorry the "just go up and introduce yourself" didn't work out. I sometimes have a hard time meeting people too, so I'm seriously considering wearing a shirt that says something along the lines of "if we haven't met, talk to me!", just to help keep the atmosphere open for people like me.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Fishercat on January 08, 2012, 12:48:43 pm
A specific event is a great idea.

Porc Fest and Liberty Forum have been going on for a number of years now, and for many it is a chance to see old friends.  Designating an event where it is incumbent on any veteran to focus on talking to new people could have a great impact. 

How about something like this?   Have a social hour where anyone who has attended a previous Porc Fest or Liberty Forum wears an old shirt from one of those events.    For that hour, anyone with an old shirt cannot talk to anyone else wearing such a shirt.  Probably too complicated, but just something that would break up the "cliques" for a short while.

Those who are already "insiders" are happy to meet and talk with the new people, but might sometimes need a nudge to get them to do it.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 11, 2012, 06:53:16 pm
A specific event is a great idea.

Porc Fest and Liberty Forum have been going on for a number of years now, and for many it is a chance to see old friends.  Designating an event where it is incumbent on any veteran to focus on talking to new people could have a great impact. 

How about something like this?   Have a social hour where anyone who has attended a previous Porc Fest or Liberty Forum wears an old shirt from one of those events.    For that hour, anyone with an old shirt cannot talk to anyone else wearing such a shirt.  Probably too complicated, but just something that would break up the "cliques" for a short while.

Those who are already "insiders" are happy to meet and talk with the new people, but might sometimes need a nudge to get them to do it.
Some sort of organized set up like a 'social hour' sounds like a great idea because I know that these are great people who are anxious to bring people into the movement. To concentrate that good will and let it loose seems like a smart thing to do. To me, anyway.

I don't have a bit of problem introducing myself and talking to new people, really really.  I do it all the time as part of my job.  But even so, I found it a difficult to get farther than a superficial conversation at PF.  To be fair, PF might be a little strange because of the dynamics of people camping out/drinking/hanging with their friends all day for a full week.  That said, I met a few people who were camping there and thought the things I did.

I really am willing to help someone do something here.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: dalebert on January 11, 2012, 07:06:34 pm
Flaming Freedom is planning some jacuzzi PG-13 cuddle-fests but the times haven't been worked out yet.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 12, 2012, 06:13:39 pm
Flaming Freedom is planning some jacuzzi PG-13 cuddle-fests but the times haven't been worked out yet.
Actually, Dale, you're one of the people I introduced myself to just briefly at this last PF, and, while I'm not gay, I'll be happy to cuddle at your fest. :)

What away to break ice, I assume. Never been to one.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: dalebert on January 12, 2012, 09:30:26 pm
I'm not sure how serious I am yet. Working that out.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Pat K on January 13, 2012, 01:05:10 am
Mark on list=Larry needs a Beer.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: ny2nh on January 13, 2012, 05:17:59 pm
Thursday night is the meet & greet type of thing....and a great time to meet new people.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Dreepa on January 17, 2012, 07:38:26 am
Thursday night was 'invented' for meet and greet.

We have minimal speakers (about 5 speakers for 2 minutes each).. then mingle for a few hours.

I am certainly willing to introduce you to people... find me... I am hard to miss.

I try and meet every attendee that comes to the LF...

If you have specific ideas on how to make it better... I am all ears... send an email to libertyforum@freestateproject.org.

thanks!
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 17, 2012, 03:34:31 pm
Thanks, all.  I'll do my best to be there Thursday evening at 8.  Sounds like fun. 

An organizer I'm not, Dreepa, but I can be a mean follower for the right organizing mind full of good ideas.

Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: ny2nh on January 17, 2012, 04:25:33 pm
I am certainly willing to introduce you to people... find me... I am hard to miss.

You can't miss him....he's a giant. :D
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 19, 2012, 02:52:12 pm
I am certainly willing to introduce you to people... find me... I am hard to miss.

You can't miss him....he's a giant. :D
Word.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: dalebert on January 19, 2012, 02:56:07 pm
I'm not sure how serious I am yet. Working that out.

Yeah, after some thought, prolly not very serious. Course that's no guarantee some mild cuddling won't happen spontaneously. I still wanna have a Jacuzzi party!
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: slothman on January 19, 2012, 04:59:59 pm
I just thought of an idea.

We know what a speed-dating is like.
You have men and women pair up and sit at a table together.
They talk for 5 to 10 minutes and then when a bell rings the men get up and go to the next table to talk to a new women.
They talk about jobs or such.
Each person has a number and to create an anomious(sp) ID.
You give the number to a moderator and if a pair each has a number to other then the mod gives phone numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_dating

Maybe there could be some similar thing here.
Instead of men or women you have new and previous visiters of PF.
A ID and phone number isn't needed but it is similar.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Larry Sagittarius on January 19, 2012, 09:44:52 pm
I just thought of an idea.

We know what a speed-dating is like.
You have men and women pair up and sit at a table together.
They talk for 5 to 10 minutes and then when a bell rings the men get up and go to the next table to talk to a new women.
They talk about jobs or such.
Each person has a number and to create an anomious(sp) ID.
You give the number to a moderator and if a pair each has a number to other then the mod gives phone numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_dating

Maybe there could be some similar thing here.
Instead of men or women you have new and previous visiters of PF.
A ID and phone number isn't needed but it is similar.
I think this is a really great idea.  It would take participation of some of the people who already 'know everyone', but it would be cool.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Dreepa on February 03, 2012, 01:38:44 pm
I just thought of an idea.

We know what a speed-dating is like.
You have men and women pair up and sit at a table together.
They talk for 5 to 10 minutes and then when a bell rings the men get up and go to the next table to talk to a new women.
They talk about jobs or such.
Each person has a number and to create an anomious(sp) ID.
You give the number to a moderator and if a pair each has a number to other then the mod gives phone numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_dating

Maybe there could be some similar thing here.
Instead of men or women you have new and previous visiters of PF.
A ID and phone number isn't needed but it is similar.
I think this is a really great idea.  It would take participation of some of the people who already 'know everyone', but it would be cool.

done... I am going to make some sort of this thing happen....

That means people need to show up on Time on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Pat K on February 04, 2012, 01:39:04 am
OH they will be on "time"

PKT=Pat K time

DDT=Dale Drama time

SGLGHT=Sandy Got Lost Getting here time.

RPFGT=Ron Paul Freaking Giant time.

ETC, ETC,.....

Should correspond to a 30 min time zone thing.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: jrandall on February 06, 2012, 12:33:57 am
I'm an FSPer from 2007 and I can really identify with Larry's original post, had kind of the same experience.  I went to LF in 2008 and enjoyed it quite a bit.  The speakers were very interesting and I felt like I was among kindered spirits.  But, being a very quiet and introverted type person, I didn't really meet or have much personal/ social interaction with anyone I encountered.  Everyone seemed plenty friendly and approachable enough, but I'm just not the kind of person who's going to walk up to a stranger and introduce myself.  My personality type is 90% of the cause for that, but it is what it is, and I'd guess those traits aren't too uncommon.  So, like Larry, I also think some sort of ice breaking activity could be very helpful.  I'm going to give the LF another shot this year, and this time around I'm going to try to be more gregarious and outgoing, and any help I can get will be greatly appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: jrandall on February 06, 2012, 12:45:03 am
For what it's worth...  I was planning to arrive Friday morning.  From my point of view a Thursday night event is kind of cost prohibitive because it would require another vacation day from work and an extra night at the hotel.  So personally I'm not sure I'd be willing/ able to take advantage of that opportunity if it was offered.  I certainly don't expect anyone to jump through flaming hoops in order to compensate for my particular personality.  Just trying to provide some useful feedback, whatever that's worth.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: greap on February 06, 2012, 12:28:47 pm
Wife and I are recent mover locals (but staying in the hotel as neither of us have any intention of being sober enough to drive home on Friday/Saturday) and will be going out for all the meals and anyone who would like to come out with us is more than welcome, there are some really nice places to eat downtown (such as this (http://mtslocal.com/), this (http://www.unums.com/) and this (http://www.stellablu-nh.com/) and some awesome breakfast food at Jackie's Diner on Main St.).
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: dalebert on February 06, 2012, 01:50:00 pm
I'm the type who's not afraid to just walk up to a total stranger and introduce myself and try to make them feel welcome. I just need an excuse so it doesn't seem too weird. It can feel unclear whether it's welcome. Like, I used to be the membership director of Log Cabin Republicans and it was essentially my job to chat up any new people at a meeting and introduce myself as such. Say, "I'm the membership director and here's what we're all about... blah blah blah."
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Dreepa on February 06, 2012, 08:09:56 pm
For what it's worth...  I was planning to arrive Friday morning.  From my point of view a Thursday night event is kind of cost prohibitive because it would require another vacation day from work and an extra night at the hotel.  So personally I'm not sure I'd be willing/ able to take advantage of that opportunity if it was offered.  I certainly don't expect anyone to jump through flaming hoops in order to compensate for my particular personality.  Just trying to provide some useful feedback, whatever that's worth.
thanks for the input.

I will make sure that we do something on Friday as well...

and remember.. please introduce yourself to at least me.... (and Dale from his post)
I am not shy at all.. I can/will introduce you to everyone there or at least the ones you want to meet.... (even if I don't know them I will introduce myself first)
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Dreepa on February 06, 2012, 08:10:24 pm
I'm the type who's not afraid to just walk up to a total stranger and introduce myself and try to make them feel welcome. I just need an excuse so it doesn't seem too weird. It can feel unclear whether it's welcome. Like, I used to be the membership director of Log Cabin Republicans and it was essentially my job to chat up any new people at a meeting and introduce myself as such. Say, "I'm the membership director and here's what we're all about... blah blah blah."


Dale was a Republican?
Somehow that strikes me as really funny.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Ron Helwig on February 07, 2012, 04:56:48 pm
I don't know if this will help, but you could always try talking to the vendors that will be there. Quite often you can get a decent conversation going that will draw in nearby people, making the introduction process a bit easier.

BTW, I'll be spending a lot of time at the DelValley Silver booth.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: greap on February 07, 2012, 10:08:21 pm
We are having a Nashua Liberty Social on the Saturday (25th) in downtown Nashua starting at 4:30. Everyone is welcome so if you would like to meet some locals in a less formal setting feel free to come along.

Event details available on FB - http://www.facebook.com/events/381994185149751/
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: JaqEboy on February 15, 2012, 01:08:40 pm
Wife and I are recent mover locals (but staying in the hotel as neither of us have any intention of being sober enough to drive home on Friday/Saturday) and will be going out for all the meals and anyone who would like to come out with us is more than welcome, there are some really nice places to eat downtown (such as this (http://mtslocal.com/), this (http://www.unums.com/) and this (http://www.stellablu-nh.com/) and some awesome breakfast food at Jackie's Diner on Main St.).


Liam, maybe you should identify a meeting place (the lobby round bench), a time and have a sign saying "Dinner Excursion to Downtown", for example, so anyone wanting to join you could meet up, carpool, or follow you to that evening's dinner spot.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: gleongelpi on April 11, 2012, 10:36:06 am
Suggestion: At any festival, someone set-up a spot, with a sign that reads: "Newcomers without local contacts welcomed here." Place about ten chairs in a circle, with some small tables in between, and invite all to join in a "get to know each other".
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: snave on February 17, 2013, 08:20:44 pm
I am in the same boat. I will be moving to NH just in time for the LF. I really won't know anyone but want to meet as many folks as possible. I will be arriving with no job, no place to live and just the clothes on my back so networking with people that weekend is would be a great help.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: JaqEboy on February 17, 2013, 11:22:46 pm
Newcomers - First Timers - new movers should get a huge badge, like 6" diameter and bright orange or something, so people will see that and come up to them and hug them!
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Pat K on February 18, 2013, 01:05:13 am
No reason ya can't make your own badge. Oh wait this guy don' t like badges!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: FrugalFannie on February 19, 2013, 10:08:34 am
Thanks, all.  I'll do my best to be there Thursday evening at 8.  Sounds like fun. 

An organizer I'm not, Dreepa, but I can be a mean follower for the right organizing mind full of good ideas.



Being shy (yes I am until I know you) and not knowing people is one of the reasons I volunteered to help last year. It forced me to meet people.
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: Rich T. on February 21, 2013, 04:35:38 pm
I'd like to go to my first LF, I really would, but I'm very hesitant because of the experiences I had at PF.  To be fair, I did not camp at PF and only went over for a few day trips, but I'd be doing the same thing at LF. 
I've heard all the "meet people on the boards first" and "just go up and introduce yourself" stuff.  That doesn't really work. 

I don't know if the organizers have set up a "new buddy" system, but I can relate to your experience at PorcFest and I've been to all of them.

At Liberty Forum, the best time to meet new people and have a conversation to discover shared interest is at lunch. Sit with people you don't know and ask "so, where are you from?" or "what brought you to liberty?" or even "what was your favorite session so far?" People will start chatting. Most of the time you'll be at a mixed table of locals and visitors, so there's enough variety to keep the conversation going.

Dinner tends to be a bit more cliquish but maybe not so much this year with the VIP seating. Similar idea though. And if you bought a VIP ticket, then you will likely be sitting with people who have something in common with you via the speaker.

Other tips:
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: FrugalFannie on January 24, 2014, 07:50:23 am
I just saw this from last year's LF. The way I got to know people at my first LF (2012) was I volunteered my time. I had things I volunteered to do every day. This meant I had to get to know at least the person in charge of the volunteers! But I volunteered to do the bag stuffing so I met a whole bunch of LF regulars and organizers. Then I met a couple of great ladies as we heckled the 'comedian' on 'opening night.' LOL

I actually ran into someone I went to college with! And I made a connection with someone I had 'met' through another forum. And I met a lot of people over meals and drinks. I actually met one guy who I thought was a jerk and he's now one of my favorites! LOL I don't know if I ever told him that!
Title: Re: Ice breaker at Liberty Forum?
Post by: lobstah on January 24, 2014, 09:14:24 am
It’s not as easy to be shy or an introvert in the FSP as some may have you believe. I’ve been to Porcfest 4 times, and I hardly know anyone in the movement haha. If I walk up to random people and introduce myself, I usually get a friendly hello and maybe a comment or question before the person suddenly has to leave. Understandable, people have their friends they want to hang with. Maybe I smell ;)