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Title: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on May 19, 2010, 02:22:15 pm
Hi all. Is there a proper place to introduce myself or is this it?

I haven't joined yet but am strongly considering it. With that a move too.

I have other questions too.

Of the major cities in NH, how is the mass transit, if any? Which city could I move to without a car and still get to necessary services by bicycle, foot or bus?

I hear the weather sucks in NH? Please explain with temps, precipitation amounts, and generalities.

I have more questions but feel this is a good start.

Thanks.
Mark

Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Bazil on May 19, 2010, 04:14:01 pm
Most "bigger" cities in NH have buses as mass transit.  If you want access to Boston through mass transit the seacoast has the rail and Nashua has the Boston Express bus line.  Manchester, just because of it's population and size, probably has the most services overall.

Sucky weather in NH? Never! ;)  I guess it depends on what you call "sucky" and where in NH you are.  Inland gets a lot more snow than the seacoast and is colder.  Also the more north you go and higher elevation you are the colder it gets.  Where I live in Nashua it's usually in the 20ies in the winter, and the 70ies in the summer.  With the extremes being around 95 and -5.  It does rain quite a bit in NH especially in the fall and spring times, but that's why it's so green.  Although the flooding is kept to a minimum by the hilly terrain.  I live probably 500 feet or so (not considering elevation) from the Nashua river, which crested at over 6 feet above flood stage (very very rare) this year, but my and almost all of the houses in the area were completely unaffected.  If you go near the seacoast the climate is heavily moderated by the ocean.  So it's cooler in the summer and hotter in the winter than the rest of NH.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on May 19, 2010, 05:05:22 pm
Hi all. Is there a proper place to introduce myself or is this it?

Sure, why not? Welcome!

I hear the weather sucks in NH? Please explain with temps, precipitation amounts, and generalities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire#Climate
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: RichW on May 19, 2010, 06:17:15 pm
Welcome Mdj!

Your best bet for bicycle/foot/bus are the 3 main cities...Manchester, Concord and Nashua.

"Sucks" depends on your perspective.  To me, NH is a winter wonderland.  If you let us know where you are from, we can give you an idea of how NH weather differs.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on May 19, 2010, 06:58:41 pm
I am looking at Manchester mainly so far. But I have never been that far NE before. I am looking to come out hopefully by Halloween. Then I will check some things out and get a feel for the place.

Than you for the links B.D. Ross I read through it.

I am from Bremerton in Washington state, so I use the term 'sucks' loosely. We are stereotyped as always having rain despite that we get only 40 inches of rain each year. However what should be stated is that we have a lot of gray days. I believe 40 inches of rain is similar to NH. And it is mild here, not too cold and not too hot. However last summer we got a whole week that was above 100F and most of us nearly melted. Hope that answers you Rich.

More questions:

How many sunny days are there?

I was looking on Google Earth, and it seems like the urban jungle has spread as far north as Manchester. Is it still growing in the area? I like trees and somewhat rural areas I can get to. But I want to balance that with living around people also.

Maybe an apartment or rent a room to start. But eventually I would like a slower paced lifestyle. So if I planted myself in the city it wouldn't be permanent. As my eventual goal is to get into the country.

Is the traffic crazy like I hear Boston is? I don't have proof of the craziness as I have never been to Boston but everyone I have talked to about that agrees driving in Boston is hardcore.

Thank you,
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Floridian on May 19, 2010, 08:21:53 pm
I was looking on Google Earth, and it seems like the urban jungle has spread as far north as Manchester. Is it still growing in the area? I like trees and somewhat rural areas I can get to. But I want to balance that with living around people also.

By comparison, you could fit several New Hampshires into Washington state.  Rural areas are easily accessible from NH cities.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Dreepa on May 20, 2010, 07:01:52 am

Is the traffic crazy like I hear Boston is? I don't have proof of the craziness as I have never been to Boston but everyone I have talked to about that agrees driving in Boston is hardcore.

Thank you,
Mark

traffic is 'busy' during rush hours on 93 and Rte 3 (Probably 95 as well but I don't have experience myself there.)

On friday nights going north is is bad.
On Sunday nights going south it is bad.

I live 10 miles to the Capital and live in a town without traffic lights. 
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: cathleeninnh on May 20, 2010, 07:50:50 am
NH is perfect for that urban/rural balance if you lean toward rural and not urban. Manchester is a small city and rural is minutes away. Boston traffic and driving is atrocious. Avoid it. Easy to avoid it, too. There are many jobs stretching all the way up into NH.

You have the right idea to find temp housing until you are more familiar with the state. Many of us did the same thing. I think most movers move again after getting here. Don't think one place is better than another until you have been here awhile. Manchester is not better than other places, but it is convenient for checking out the area.

Since we have been here (6 years), I know we have had more than 40 inches precipitation a year. Pretty darn lush in the summers. Something tells me this summer will be hotter and longer than last. This past winter was not severe.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: freedomroad on May 20, 2010, 10:31:09 am
Of the major cities in NH, how is the mass transit, if any? Which city could I move to without a car and still get to necessary services by bicycle, foot or bus?

Depending on where you live in the cities, you should be fine in Manchester, Nashua, Concord, Portsmouth, Dover or Keene.

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I hear the weather sucks in NH? Please explain with temps, precipitation amounts, and generalities.

NH has at least 4 seasons.  Winter is cold.  The further north and the higher in elevation, generally the colder and more snow.  Summer is amazing as is Fall.  No need for air conditioning in most of NH.  Spring tends to be rainy.  In the rural areas, Spring can be pretty muddy and buggy in NH.

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Thanks.
Mark

Welcome!

Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2010, 11:17:04 am
Keene has won awards for its walkability.

http://move.freekeene.com
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Bazil on May 20, 2010, 01:59:18 pm

How many sunny days are there?

I was looking on Google Earth, and it seems like the urban jungle has spread as far north as Manchester. Is it still growing in the area? I like trees and somewhat rural areas I can get to. But I want to balance that with living around people also.

Is the traffic crazy like I hear Boston is? I don't have proof of the craziness as I have never been to Boston but everyone I have talked to about that agrees driving in Boston is hardcore.


Lots! some where around 200 sunny days a year.  Just cause their sunny doesn't mean they are all warm however.

South eastern NH is part of Greater Boston, but with the exception of Manchester it's all pretty rural none the less.  I live less than a mile from down town Nashua (a city of about 85,000) and I still see Deer in the woods behind my house.  The southern side of NH is growing fast because it attracts the more freedom and conservative minded people who have to move to the Boston area for job reasons and can't stand the political climate in MA.

Boston traffic is the pits, NH traffic is not.  It's taken me over two hours to get to downtown Boston in rush hour(s) before (3->95->93), but in no traffic it's about 45 mins.  Traffic in NH is seldom bad, although you do get traffic jams going in and out of Manchester and Portsmouth during rush hour.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on May 20, 2010, 02:08:02 pm
Thank you Floridian, Dreepa, cathleeninnh, Freedomroad, FreeKeene.com's Ian and everyone else.

I understand much more about Keene having spent the night watching Ridley-Report and Sam Dodson and all that. That is very interesting to say the least. Not my brand of activism in Keene. It seems like it is mostly young folks doing most of the demonstrating. I prefer a more moderate and mature form of protest. Seems like that is the place to go for 4:20.

Which brings up another question I have. I enjoy my cannabis, and I detect that writing about this is permissible here, I haven't seen any indication otherwise. I'd also guess that at least the FSP's that don't partake are not going to condemn or judge me anyways. But what is the quality and availability of cannabis? I am from Washington state and am generally impressed with the quality here. Availability is questionable, and in the local rag it seems like the cops bust someone every other week. And they do it with a smile. I bet they go to a bar afterwards and brag to their friends about how they messed up someones day. And that is another reason I want to move. Though cops around here generally leave you alone, when you run afoul or get put into the penal system, kiss your sovereignty goodbye.

Also another question I have is military presence. I live in a Navy town and have been in the area most of my life. I am tired of the general attitude of the Navy and it's associated federal workers. It's true they heavily support the economics of Bremerton (current home town) but I would be glad if they left town, not that it will happen. Folks that typically start fights around here in the bars are Squids from some landlocked state. While that is a huge stereotype it is true of at least a certain percentage of them. So to finally get to the point what is the military/federal presence around NH? Are the local economies based on that? Are any branches of military represented in the state?

Thanks for reading. I will likely have more questions soon.
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: freedomroad on May 20, 2010, 02:21:32 pm
So to finally get to the point what is the military/federal presence around NH? Are the local economies based on that? Are any branches of military represented in the state?

There aren't any major military bases in NH at all.  Are there even any in MA or VT, not that I know of.  I know there is at least one small one somewhere in MA.  There is also at least one small one in ME.  There are companies that do defense work in NH and MA.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Bazil on May 20, 2010, 04:29:46 pm
There aren't any major military bases in NH at all.  Are there even any in MA or VT, not that I know of.  I know there is at least one small one somewhere in MA.  There is also at least one small one in ME.  There are companies that do defense work in NH and MA.

There are plenty of small bases.  Portsmouth Naval Shipyard used to be a large Naval base, although it's been scaled back.  The navy was going to sell it till they found out that the state (ME not NH) wanted it to go to a condo developer.  Also BAE has a large presence in Nashua.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: greap on May 20, 2010, 04:43:19 pm
So to finally get to the point what is the military/federal presence around NH? Are the local economies based on that? Are any branches of military represented in the state?

Outside of the Coast Guard and National Guard the only decent sized facility is a satellite tracking station, there are less then 400 active service thugs in NH.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on May 20, 2010, 05:32:38 pm
Thanks for everyone's response so far. I still have a question or two unanswered from my last post that I would like addressed.

I am comforted concerning lack of military in the area. Things are looking up!

So I went back and looked at the Statement of Intent and another question popped up:

I understand expulsion may occur if someone advocates violence as a means of getting their way.
I also understand that NH has in their state constitution Article 10. Right of Revolution.
Revolutions tend to be violent.
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?
I mean the gun aspect is there for a reason, right?

I need to have all my bases covered if I am going to sign on the dotted line.
Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: freedomroad on May 20, 2010, 05:53:35 pm
There aren't any major military bases in NH at all.  Are there even any in MA or VT, not that I know of.  I know there is at least one small one somewhere in MA.  There is also at least one small one in ME.  There are companies that do defense work in NH and MA.

There are plenty of small bases.  Portsmouth Naval Shipyard used to be a large Naval base, although it's been scaled back.  The navy was going to sell it till they found out that the state (ME not NH) wanted it to go to a condo developer.  Also BAE has a large presence in Nashua.

The Portsmouth Navel Shipyard was the one small base in ME that I know of.  BAE is in Nashua and the Boston, MA area, which is good.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: freedomroad on May 20, 2010, 05:55:33 pm
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?

I doubt the FSP will still exist as an organization 20 years from now.  So if a popular revolution happens than that includes some violence, I don't think it will make much difference as far as the FSP goes.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on May 20, 2010, 06:36:27 pm
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain sovereignty?

It says that you will not "advocate coercion or violence". The FSP just tries to get people to move to New Hampshire. It doesn't need to be associated with people advocating violent criminal behavior.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on May 21, 2010, 12:47:38 pm
So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.



Another question I have is this: In Washington state the presence of the Indians is still relevant here. The casinos are owned by them (not that they pay land taxes on them), there are nearby reservations. Does NH have any memorials, reservations or Indian culture accessible?

Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Dreepa on May 21, 2010, 01:18:53 pm
So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.



Another question I have is this: In Washington state the presence of the Indians is still relevant here. The casinos are owned by them (not that they pay land taxes on them), there are nearby reservations. Does NH have any memorials, reservations or Indian culture accessible?

Thanks,
Mark

For the first question... the FSP has no real position on anything.... except  move to NH.

Not much Indian culture.  No casinos in NH.

Here is some history that might interest you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Indian_Stream
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on May 21, 2010, 01:31:23 pm
So my understanding about the whole FSP non violence and the possibility of revolution is that it is a moot point. At the rate things are going in this country I wouldn't be surprised if a revolution was necessary. I was actually expecting a yes or no answer which I did not receive.

More or less moot. I mean, the issue you're looking at isn't what that part of the SOI was intended to cover. For example, please refer to the New Hampshire Constitution, Part I, Article 10 ("Right of Revolution").
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 17, 2010, 04:39:15 pm
Thanks for all the answers. I think I still have questions. I have been doing as much research as possible into NH.

Has anyone met P.J. O'Rourke? I have read he lives in NH. And when I discovered his books and way of thinking it felt like a new chapter opened in my life.

Thunderstorms... are they significant in NH? I live on the left coast here in Bremerton and our thunderstorms are generally weak and few and far between. I didn't know what a good one was until i went to the midwest in the summer time.

Earthquakes are they significant in NH? Over here they are, or can be, and you can't see those things coming. Tornados? Icestorms? Any slightly dangerous weather? Besides flooding... I already know what that is. Which is why a place on the hill is where I will settle in NH when I get there.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: time4liberty on June 17, 2010, 04:56:25 pm
Thanks for all the answers. I think I still have questions. I have been doing as much research as possible into NH.

Has anyone met P.J. O'Rourke? I have read he lives in NH. And when I discovered his books and way of thinking it felt like a new chapter opened in my life.

Thunderstorms... are they significant in NH? I live on the left coast here in Bremerton and our thunderstorms are generally weak and few and far between. I didn't know what a good one was until i went to the midwest in the summer time.

Earthquakes are they significant in NH? Over here they are, or can be, and you can't see those things coming. Tornados? Icestorms? Any slightly dangerous weather? Besides flooding... I already know what that is. Which is why a place on the hill is where I will settle in NH when I get there.


There's an occasional thunderstorm in the summer. Fairly uncommon, but I used to really enjoy them as a kid.

Almost no earthquakes at all ... too much granite.

Tornadoes are extremely rare ... too many hills.

Yes, there are ice storms occasionally. Fewer than in slightly warmer climes -- most of the winter precipitation in NH is fluffy snow.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Jeff LaGrange on June 17, 2010, 06:35:39 pm
Thanks for everyone's response so far. I still have a question or two unanswered from my last post that I would like addressed.

I am comforted concerning lack of military in the area. Things are looking up!

So I went back and looked at the Statement of Intent and another question popped up:

I understand expulsion may occur if someone advocates violence as a means of getting their way.
I also understand that NH has in their state constitution Article 10. Right of Revolution.
Revolutions tend to be violent.
Does this mean signing the SOI waives violence and promotion of violence as A LAST RESORT to maintain soveriegnty?
I mean the gun aspect is there for a reason, right?

I need to have all my bases covered if I am going to sign on the dotted line.
Thanks,
Mark

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: 10stateswithnh on June 17, 2010, 07:34:22 pm

Almost no earthquakes at all ... too much granite.


I remember feeling an earthquake as a kid. The epicenter was somewhere in Quebec, or Ontario. We felt it in eastern Maine - it rattled the dishes in the dish drainer for a few seconds. I think it was a category 6 or 7, however they say that.

I'm not sure granite makes earthquakes less common - that would depend on the number of faults. But it does make an earthquake of a certain Richter scale number (I think that's the name) less severe than the same number somewhere with a different depth of bedrock ( I can't remember which way it goes on the depth).
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 17, 2010, 08:13:24 pm

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on June 17, 2010, 08:23:53 pm

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

Except those persons conscientious of bearing arms, every able-bodied person over age 18 who is a U.S. citizen and not a member of the national guard or the state guard (there isn't one currently), is a member of the "unorganized militia".

Today, it's effectively meaningless.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: sj on June 17, 2010, 08:26:15 pm

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

No joke: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VIII/110-B/110-B-1.htm

Quote
"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard."
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on June 17, 2010, 08:53:36 pm

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

No joke: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VIII/110-B/110-B-1.htm

Quote
"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard."

so close!
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: time4liberty on June 17, 2010, 11:19:29 pm

Almost no earthquakes at all ... too much granite.


I remember feeling an earthquake as a kid. The epicenter was somewhere in Quebec, or Ontario. We felt it in eastern Maine - it rattled the dishes in the dish drainer for a few seconds. I think it was a category 6 or 7, however they say that.

I'm not sure granite makes earthquakes less common - that would depend on the number of faults. But it does make an earthquake of a certain Richter scale number (I think that's the name) less severe than the same number somewhere with a different depth of bedrock ( I can't remember which way it goes on the depth).


Yep, there was one earthquake when I was a kid -- maybe the same one. It made the fruit basked swing a bit. That's it.

And I lived in NH for 18 years ...
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 17, 2010, 11:43:31 pm
Kick ass, another Washingtonian!

IMHO, Manchester, Nashua, Concord, and Portsmouth are the best for being pedestrian friendly, although most towns with more than 5,000 seem pretty well set up for foot traffic.  I believe that Manchester also has the most extensive mass transit I've seen, though in Portsmouth, you don't really need any.  In fact, some folks in Manch and the seacoast just get around by bike, which is fine.  I've done it in Seabrook (as do others) though there aren't really solid accommodations in Seabrook for bicyclists... other than the side of the road and very well built sidewalks.  It's more foot friendly that bike friendly--except for short trips to the beach, which are great.

Actually, Seabrook is a bit like a smaller version of Ballard, if you've been out that way.  It's kind of a small, ocean front town dealing with big box development.

But yes, New England towns really are set up much better for foot traffic--mainly because most of the streets and blocks were set up at a time when most folks didn't have cars.  Before conventional, euclidean zoning, developers had to create the beautiful, mixed-use town centers if they wanted to attract pedestrian shoppers.  Those town centers are everywhere, and many residents either don't have cars or rarely use them.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Dreepa on June 18, 2010, 06:47:27 am
Those town centers are everywhere, and many residents either don't have cars or rarely use them.

I think most residents own cars.

If you are not in one of the cities... you need a car.

The towns in NH are small. The town centers are small.  You get 5-6 stores in the centers if you wanted something else you will be sol.  you will also I guess need a job so you would be limited to those town centers.

Live in a town= need a car.
Live in a city =  depends but you can do it.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Jeff LaGrange on June 18, 2010, 08:49:56 pm

I take it that no one told him as a resident he is a member of the state militia? LOL

Is this for real or a joke?

No joke: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VIII/110-B/110-B-1.htm

Quote
"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard."

so close!
I like to sort them out before they move. Saves them money in the long run (and it is just fun to play with them).
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 19, 2010, 01:59:47 pm
Jeff LaGrange -- not positive how I should respond. I am unsure how this is a money saving option? But if you are just messing with me I can sort of appreciate that as I grew up with a lot of brothers. I believe you referred to me as a 'them' which suggests groups in opposition. That is more disturbing to me than any militia issue.

I have got no problem being in a militia as long as I am on defense defending something I like, as opposed to the National Guard being used by the President to further a political agenda in some far away land. This is not a big enough issue to prevent me from moving. However I would like to reserve the right to not serve in a militia if I disagree with the leadership.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 19, 2010, 02:16:11 pm
As far as earthquakes go I survived the Nisqually quake back in 2001. It was only a 6.8. However I can assure you that I thought I was done for. I got up from my chair and positioned myself in my bedroom doorway. I grabbed each side of the doorway and held on. It is an interesting thing to go through when I kept smashing both sides of the doorway involuntarily. It sounded like the big old 5 story building I was in was being picked up and dropped on the ground over and over again. It's like the Grand Canyon, you have to experience it to understand the enormity.

I read that NH gets on average 2 tornadoes every year. If I am fortunate I will experience one and not be hurt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Nisqually_earthquake
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 19, 2010, 02:27:48 pm
@Max -- are you from Washington? Are there a lot of rejects from the Evergreen state out that way?

It sounds more and more likely Manchester will be the start of my NH adventure. Besides the Taproom is right next to where the Monarchs play. Another reason I want to move is people just don't understand hockey out this way. On TV basketball and baseball always override hockey unless one tunes into CBC. How do the local channels handle sports in NH? I bet the Patriots are big. Do you get the sports out of NY?

What you say about the history and how the towns were setup is very appealing to me.

@Dreepa -- presently I am aiming for minimal overhead. Walking is the best, then bike, then the bus. But I do not entertain the fantasy of riding my bike in the winter.

Thanks
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Jeff LaGrange on June 19, 2010, 04:01:24 pm
Jeff LaGrange -- not positive how I should respond. I am unsure how this is a money saving option? But if you are just messing with me I can sort of appreciate that as I grew up with a lot of brothers. I believe you referred to me as a 'them' which suggests groups in opposition. That is more disturbing to me than any militia issue.

I have got no problem being in a militia as long as I am on defense defending something I like, as opposed to the National Guard being used by the President to further a political agenda in some far away land. This is not a big enough issue to prevent me from moving. However I would like to reserve the right to not serve in a militia if I disagree with the leadership.

Thanks.
I screw with everyone.  Welcome aboard !
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 24, 2010, 10:22:00 pm
rejects?  Are you referring to me as one?

Not a lot of folks from the pacific northwest in the Granite State, eh.  It was easy to convince northwesterners to get involved in the fsp back in 2002-03, but when New Hampshire got picked, most dropped out.  The general assumption by New Hampshire promoters was that, if they were willing to move to a western state, but not a northeastern one, then they must not care much about liberty.

I'm not saying that I agreed (wanted a two-state strategy), but opinions of participants have never driven FSP Board decision making.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 25, 2010, 12:34:53 am
Well I know for sure Washington state would be out of the question for a project state. Too much government. Entitlement mentality abounds and elections are pretty much decided by Seattle. Not sure what state would be good for freedom here on the left coast. Colorado or Alaska would be my bet.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 25, 2010, 11:37:08 pm
maxxoccupancy, are you from Canada, eh?

Jeff LaGrange, Thanks and no worries.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 26, 2010, 08:35:32 pm
What?  What are you talking about?

I'm am from America, where everybody has a gun.

Washington would definitely be doable, you know.  I wish that I could go back and network now, knowing what I know about state politics.  I'd probably open a printshop and get all of the proliberty candidates their first 50 yardsigns in June--when they're thinking about other things.  If you get enough people to run for local office, then the good locals can run for State Legislature, and you pretty much take the state back from the political good ol' boy network that has stolen our state government over the last thirty years.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 09, 2010, 03:09:09 pm
I heard NH has a 'head tax'. Is this the area's tax on services like hotels? Or is it a polling tax?

A friend of mine told me this and I was unsure what she meant. Could someone please explain?

Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Shamrock on July 09, 2010, 09:05:12 pm
Welcome! I'm from Kitsap county myself! Though im not in nh yet... But knowing where youre coming from, my impression is that nh generally is a litte cooler in the winter (id guess similar in the summer) but much less rainy that W Washington.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: KBCraig on July 09, 2010, 10:21:59 pm
I heard NH has a 'head tax'. Is this the area's tax on services like hotels? Or is it a polling tax?

There is no "per capita" tax. There is a rooms & meals tax, which is a sales tax for hotels and restaurants.

I have no idea what she may have meant by "head tax".
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: "Hagrid" on July 09, 2010, 10:29:45 pm
Not a lot of folks from the pacific northwest in the Granite State, eh. 

Huh?  Maxx, there are plenty of folks from Washington and Oregon here in NH.

You dunno what you are talking about....
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: GlenDickey on July 11, 2010, 08:55:56 pm
Hi Mark,
A good places to get and idea about NH rent is rent.com.  There is also the Union Leader newspaper.  For more info about the business climate try New Hampshire Business magazine http://millyardcommunications.com/index.php?src=. 
I made the move 18 months ago from sunny SoCal and find the climate issue to be way over stated.  My wife and I came out for a scouting trip in 2007 and when we asked a local (non-FSP) about winter he looked my wife dead in the eyes and said "Lady, we have been living with snow for 400 years.  We're prepared for it."  Yeah it is going to snow in the winter but its not nearly as bad as the Sierra's unless you are way up North. 
We have found NH to be odd in that the state has a population of 1.2 M but the largest city is only about 100K.  A lot of the population is spread out through the country side on multi acre parcels.  IMHO this gives the natives a bit of a different perspective than many other places.  I would definitely recommend spending the first first year or so as a renter semi close to one of the hubs.  You will gain a lot of perspective in that first year.
Thanks,
Glen
FaceBook: n.glen.dickey
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: 10stateswithnh on July 12, 2010, 07:44:09 am
We have found NH to be odd in that the state has a population of 1.2 M but the largest city is only about 100K.  A lot of the population is spread out through the country side on multi acre parcels.  IMHO this gives the natives a bit of a different perspective than many other places. 

How is this odd? I did a little bit of research. In 22 states the largest city is over 10% of the state population. So in 28 it is not, most of them weren't even close to 10%. I think a more relevant issue is the total urban to rural population, which I don't know a quick and easy way to compare state-by-state. Or you could compare the relative populations of the 5 or 10 largest cities. Again, I don't know where to get that number, without spending a lot of time adding up the numbers manually.

In looking over my atlas, the 22 states where the biggest city has more than 10 % of state population are Alaska, Arizona, California (LA is just barely 10%), Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Montana, Nevada, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

Perhaps you are from one of those states, or even have lived in several - that would explain why you find this odd about NH. There is a good mix of large and small population states here, eastern and western states, and I have having a hard time deducing a pattern from this list of states. There is a solid block of 5 adjoining western states, all admitted to the union close together - Colorado in 1876 and the rest from 1889-1890, though I doubt that means anything, unless it is a statement about the federal practices for admitting states in that historical period. :) 2 states from that time period are not included, Idaho and Washington, so even that pattern is not perfect. The western block states are all generally thought of as mostly rural states, except possibly Colorado. This perception is obviously incorrect if one is referring to population.

Though the large population states on the list tend to be the ones containing the largest cities in the country, this does not explain why Colorado is here but Texas is not.

You will notice Utah, where I live, is not in the list, with Salt Lake City as the largest city (probably the reason I thought to reply to the post). I think the biggest difference here is that the populations of the largest cities don't drop off as quickly as in NH, we have a much more dense and suburban region stretching north from SLC to Ogden and beyond, south to Provo and beyond. Outside this area, called the Wasatch Front, Utah is pretty rural too. We have a lot of people living on multi-acre parcels here too but of course there is a lot of government-"owned" land here.

I didn't mean this post as a nitpick - I just love geography and will jump on any excuse to do a comparison of the 50 states. I actually wanted to spend more time rambling and not making a point than what I just wrote, but I held back, hoping to have a few people actually read my reply. ;D
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on July 12, 2010, 10:46:20 pm
Not a lot of folks from the pacific northwest in the Granite State, eh. 

Huh?  Maxx, there are plenty of folks from Washington and Oregon here in NH.

You dunno what you are talking about....


I'm from Washington, and have been here since 2004.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: "Hagrid" on July 13, 2010, 08:26:38 pm
Not a lot of folks from the pacific northwest in the Granite State, eh. 

Huh?  Maxx, there are plenty of folks from Washington and Oregon here in NH.

You dunno what you are talking about....


I'm from Washington, and have been here since 2004.

And I can think of almost a dozen from Oregon... minimum.  Out of total movers, that's quite a lot.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 15, 2010, 03:46:34 am
Hey Shamrock! Are you in Kitsap now?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 15, 2010, 03:48:39 am
Thanks GlenDickey. I have checked the Union Leader and will do so more. I haven't checked the rent.com site, actually I did not even think about it until you mentioned it.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 15, 2010, 03:58:13 am
After more researching I am still aiming at Manchester or perhaps Concord initially. I am still planning on coming out in Autumn hopefully before the snow hits.

I have a question about the smaller towns. Can someone describe Goffstown, Claremont, Franklin and Berlin? Are these towns considered po-dunk or the back 40? Not sure what you all use to mean 'small crappy town way out of the way'.

I have some topo maps coming next week but among those towns which ones are above sea level and not likely to flood by a river?

Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: "Hagrid" on July 15, 2010, 07:08:29 am
I have a question about the smaller towns. Can someone describe Goffstown, Claremont, Franklin and Berlin? Are these towns considered po-dunk or the back 40? Not sure what you all use to mean 'small crappy town way out of the way'.

I have some topo maps coming next week but among those towns which ones are above sea level and not likely to flood by a river?

Thanks,
Mark

Goffstown - near Manch, rural but upscale, heavily republican (currently has one FSP state rep, soon to have 2)
Claremont - northwest and isolated... poor but slowly coming back...
Franklin - north of Concord, has a tax cap, missed having 93 run by it, so most devel is happening in Tilton.
Berlin - northern, suffering from mill closings and other economic downturns.

Podunk?  Back40? all of these might be in that, but hey, most of NH is... the least would be Goffstown and Franklin.

River flooding... All depends on where... Every one of these is near a river.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 16, 2010, 04:35:38 am
Thanks Seth.

Here is another question. How are the lattes's and the mocha's? Besides big places like Starbucks. Can you find a decent espresso in town?

I have worked serving coffee before and since I come from the coffee capital of the US and I think I can add a thing or two. Well that and I love the stuff.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: "Hagrid" on July 16, 2010, 07:55:21 am
Thanks Seth.
Here is another question. How are the lattes's and the mocha's? Besides big places like Starbucks. Can you find a decent espresso in town?
I have worked serving coffee before and since I come from the coffee capital of the US and I think I can add a thing or two. Well that and I love the stuff.

Can you find one?  Yes.  Do most places do it right? No.

The problem you face is the Dunkins factor.  Many of the people here _like_ Dunkin Donuts coffee...

That said, I've wondered many times if a little coffee hut like the Northwest sprouts all over would do well here... there really aren't any here, the niche is filled with Dunkins drivethrus every few miles (or blocks)
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on July 22, 2010, 06:57:21 am
Seth, it sounds like you have a basis to judge on what is a good latte and what is not. From what you say there is a market for espresso done well in the area. All over in Washington state coffee is like a religion. We have shack, coffee houses and of course Starbucks, Tully's and Seattle's Best. The Seattle's Best is now owned by Starbucks, and whatever corner there is no Starbucks (SB) is a Seattle's Best. No monopoly there! And don't get me wrong SB put out a good and consistent drink. But since they don't pour their own shots I believe they can never achieve 100%, just a 90-95% each time. And the good thing about being a legalized coffee dealer...the economy would have to be in the shits for people to stop buying.
Thanks
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 17, 2010, 02:25:48 pm
I am ready to sign the statement of intent. But I am unsure how to do it.

I went to : http://freestateproject.org/soi

It is not apparent where to sign. I have already become a member of that site. Is having a login there the same as being a member?

Thanks.





"Statement of Intent

I hereby state my solemn intent to move to the state of New Hampshire. Once there, I will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of civil government is the protection of life, liberty, and property."
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: "Hagrid" on August 17, 2010, 04:39:38 pm
I am ready to sign the statement of intent. But I am unsure how to do it.
It is not apparent where to sign. I have already become a member of that site. Is having a login there the same as being a member?

Yes, Dan and I just discussed this... and it's on the long list of changes the site still needs...

If you login first, you can then visit:
http://www.freestateproject.org/node/add/participant
and that should work.

We'll improve the workflow and add some info to that end..


 
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 17, 2010, 05:41:27 pm
Thank you Seth and everyone else. I am now official. I pledge to move before the end of 2011. However I am aiming at spring 2011. I also intend to visit sometime in the Fall maybe mid-October. I will be scouting locations, employment and housing. Not to mention the people.

You could add a section that allows to enter a month instead of defaulting to the end of the year.

I also intend to provide some type of internet advertising. I may build a page to help spread the word. Also I am technically-oriented so if you all need help on your site feel free to ask. Though it does not seem like you all need the help, things work well around here.

Thanks again.
Mark

ps what # does that make me? 10339? Haha.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: time4liberty on August 17, 2010, 05:52:39 pm
Thank you Seth and everyone else. I am now official. I pledge to move before the end of 2011. However I am aiming at spring 2011. I also intend to visit sometime in the Fall maybe mid-October. I will be scouting locations, employment and housing. Not to mention the people.

You could add a section that allows to enter a month instead of defaulting to the end of the year.

I also intend to provide some type of internet advertising. I may build a page to help spread the word. Also I am technically-oriented so if you all need help on your site feel free to ask. Though it does not seem like you all need the help, things work well around here.

Thanks again.
Mark

ps what # does that make me? 10339? Haha.

If you move by spring you'll probably be in the top 1000 movers (or close). That's a much more impressive number imo ;). Anyone can sign a pledge.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on August 17, 2010, 06:53:45 pm
More than a thousand have already moved.

Lots of folks don't bother to update their info when they move.

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: time4liberty on August 17, 2010, 07:01:01 pm
More than a thousand have already moved.

Lots of folks don't bother to update their info when they move.

Joe

Good point. The number's probably closer to 1500 in reality, or even more.

Frankly, I think that while reaching 20,000 signers will be great, at this point the FSP has in reality already begun, and it's more about moving and joining in, than numbers.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on August 17, 2010, 07:08:54 pm
More than a thousand have already moved.

Lots of folks don't bother to update their info when they move.
Good point. The number's probably closer to 1500 in reality, or even more.

Frankly, I think that while reaching 20,000 signers will be great, at this point the FSP has in reality already begun, and it's more about moving and joining in, than numbers.

There were already plenty of us here, as well.

And plenty of folks moving, who don't even know about the FSP.  The ratio is moving, but in the near past, I've spoken to at least twice as many folks who've moved here for liberty without hearing about the FSP, as those who've moved here because of the FSP.  Used to be higher, but the slow economy is keeping some folks stuck in place.  Those who are moving, right now, are usually doing extensive research, so they find the FSP before the move.

So, figuring the ratios over time, over the timeframe that the First 1000 has been going, there have likely been 5000 liberty-oriented movers.

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on August 17, 2010, 08:13:34 pm
More than a thousand have already moved.

Lots of folks don't bother to update their info when they move.

Joe

Good point. The number's probably closer to 1500 in reality, or even more.

That's probably a good estimate. Maybe short of that? Hard to know exactly. But it's definitely over 1,000.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 20, 2010, 10:42:51 am
Ok so I won't be in the first 1000 to move but oh well.

Another question:

What kind of creepy crawlies are in NH? I mean that in terms of poisonous creatures like snakes and spiders.

In Washington state we have Rattlesnakes, the Brown Recluse spider and sometimes the Black Widow. I have also heard that in these parts either the centipede or the millipede are poisonous.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: John Edward Mercier on August 20, 2010, 10:52:49 am
Timber rattlesnake... but only a small known population.
Lots of stinging/biting insects.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 20, 2010, 11:00:36 am
No spiders?

What type of insects, besides bees and ants of course?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: John Edward Mercier on August 20, 2010, 11:22:08 am
Spiders, but nothing that should hurt a human unless they are allergic.
Mostly wasps, hornets, yellowjackets, blackflies, deerflies, horseflies... along with ticks and mosquitoes that can carry disease.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: rossby on August 20, 2010, 11:45:40 am
Spiders, but nothing that should hurt a human unless they are allergic.

Northern black widow.

Don't forget snakes!  'Course, the most venomous snake here is a big wimp comparatively.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: John Edward Mercier on August 20, 2010, 12:17:09 pm
I don't know of any deaths due to the Northern Black Widow... but like I posted, could have an allergic reaction.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 20, 2010, 12:51:04 pm
Thanks for the replies. It seems like NH is a lot like WA in the creepy crawly regards... speaking of creepy crawlies

Is there notable corruption in NH? Anything systemic? At what level, local, state?

I figure that area would be the place to get started when I move to NH as it would have the most room for improvement.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on August 21, 2010, 04:53:40 pm
Is there notable corruption in NH? Anything systemic? At what level, local, state?

Sure.  What's "notable," to you?

Not being facetious.  Just making the point that what I, being a local to NH, consider "heinous" levels of corruption, might not even rise to the "bat an eyelash" level, for someone who moved here from NJ (I'm thinking of a real example, folks, not picking on NJ out of the blue).

There's certainly corruption and, if you want to work at shining light on it, I'll be pleased.  Just saying that it's probably less than there is, many other places.

Local corruption is more likely to occur, here, given the size of the legislature.  While some bureaucrats may have enough power to be worth bribing, there are so many legislators (and, as a result, each has so little power, personally) that there's little reason to try and bribe them (whether openly or with favors).  Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's going to tend more towards the local level when it does, because individual bureaucrats at the local level actually have more power, and more opportunity to play such games.

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Bazil on August 21, 2010, 06:34:27 pm
Thanks for the replies. It seems like NH is a lot like WA in the creepy crawly regards... speaking of creepy crawlies

Is there notable corruption in NH? Anything systemic? At what level, local, state?

I figure that area would be the place to get started when I move to NH as it would have the most room for improvement.

The only thing I worry about is ticks.  There is supposedly some kind of poison snake but I've never seen it.  Also the only spider you really have to worry about is the Brown Recluse, which can kill you, or even if caught early require amputation.  Although, again I've never seen one.  No stinging ants that I'm aware of just, bees, wasps and hornets.  Basically anything with a deadly sting or bite is almost non-existent here (unless you have an allergy of course).  The worst things I've ever encountered are ticks.

As for corruption I'm sure it's there, but I haven seen much of it except for this humorous story: http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100420/GJNEWS_01/704209936/-1/fosnews
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 22, 2010, 09:30:53 pm
What is notable? I see what you mean. I guess I meant some level of corruption that is longstanding and noticeable to locals. I understand some of the issues relating to NH and am trying to get as much info as possible. So it's more likely to be the local sheriff or mayor and not a legislator. That's what I am getting from you Joe.

And thanks Bazil, I will watch for ticks. We have those in our wooded areas out here however I have never seen one but I do know what to look out for. I have seen the brown recluse, aka the fiddleback and it's affects. That's some scary shit right there.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on August 22, 2010, 09:35:10 pm
You must be from eastern Washington.  The seacoast doesn't have anything really bad as far as poisonous critters are concerned.  We're also far enough north that you don't really see sharks come up this way--even though Seabrook DOES look a lot like Amity.

The Granite State is pretty good for those who are poisonous creature-averse.  We do have quite a few mosquitos and ticks, but we are far enough from Lyme-Disease-Central in Connecticut that it isn't too much of a worry.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 22, 2010, 10:09:36 pm
Hey Optimus  I mean maxxoccupancy -- I am from Bremerton, just west of Seattle. We have ticks, brown-recluses but the snakes are on the other side of the Cascades... is that what leads you to believe I am from the eastern part of the state?

ps. I am not really averse to creepy-crawlies, and part of me hopes to run into them... call it a dangerous fascination.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: John Edward Mercier on August 23, 2010, 12:43:11 am
Max, there are even sharks north of Seabrook.
And 50% of all deer ticks in NH are now estimated to be carrying Lyme.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: 10stateswithnh on August 23, 2010, 12:32:47 pm
I think the poisonous rat snake range includes NH. At least, when I lived in northern Maine I heard that the state had had no poisonous snakes for a long time but the rat snake had recently entered southern Maine. Never seen one, don't know what it looks like (but I've never seen a rattlesnake in other states that do have them, either).
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 25, 2010, 07:43:08 am
Say I got a place right near downtown and got around on bike or bus foot. How far away is the nearest grocery store? Could I walk there in 10 minutes? Would I need to hop on the bus?

I am not worried about short walks say up to 20-30 minutes. That is a good use of time for me, walking.

Plus what is the approx cost of name brand smokes?

What is the nightlife like in Manchester? Concord? Franklin?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on August 25, 2010, 08:43:55 am
Say I got a place right near downtown and got around on bike or bus foot. How far away is the nearest grocery store? Could I walk there in 10 minutes? Would I need to hop on the bus?

Portsmouth and Keene are probably the best for walking.

What is the nightlife like in Manchester? Concord? Franklin?

Manchvegas likely has the best nightlife.  Portsmouth and Keene have some, but it tends to be somewhat seasonal (Portsmouth being a tourist destination, and Keene being a college town).

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on August 25, 2010, 08:53:41 am
Hey Joe, why do you call it Manchvegas?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on August 25, 2010, 08:58:01 am
Hey Joe, why do you call it Manchvegas?

Remember that NH is mostly rural.  Even Concord doesn't qualify as a "city," most other places.

Manchester, compared to the majority of NH, is Vegas.  Lots of bright lights and nightlife and such.

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: etc on October 16, 2010, 03:22:02 am
Where I live in Nashua it's usually in the 20ies in the winter, and the 70ies in the summer. 

That's music to my ears, I love colder climate, both summer and winter.  Lived in the South for a long time and could never adjust to 90+ degree weather and incredible humidity, so much that you need AC at night even.
A 5-10 degree drop would be most welcome. You are moving to the agricultural zone 4.

I lived in Seattle BTW and liked that  climate too. All in all, I think NH would be better with humidity as things would grow better and the terrain is more interesting I think. But NH would win on the political front versus WA state.
 
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: etc on October 16, 2010, 03:24:55 am
Hi Mark,
A good places to get and idea about NH rent is rent.com.  There is also the Union Leader newspaper.  For more info about the business climate try New Hampshire Business magazine http://millyardcommunications.com/index.php?src=.  
. . .
We have found NH to be odd in that the state has a population of 1.2 M but the largest city is only about 100K.  A lot of the population is spread out through the country side on multi acre parcels.  IMHO this gives the natives a bit of a different perspective than many other places.  I would definitely recommend spending the first first year or so as a renter semi close to one of the hubs.  You will gain a lot of perspective in that first year.
Thanks,
Glen
FaceBook: n.glen.dickey


This is really good advice. I think I will rent also for a year or two. Especially considering that the real estate bubble is not even close to bursting and has a long way to go.

Snow I can deal with. If it stays all winter, it's pretty.  If in return I get cooler summers, I am happy. Here in DC things just about melted this summer. Walk 1/4 mile and feel exhausted.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: 10stateswithnh on October 18, 2010, 02:03:28 pm
If you're willing to get around by bus Manchester should be a good place. Check out the map of the bus routes (Disclaimer: bus service run by Manchester Transit Authority, a city-owned "business").

http://www.mtabus.org/route_map.cfm

The fare, 1.50, is more than I had to pay in a city 2x the size of Manchester, Rochester New York, but Rochester had a 15 cent transfer fee, which I haven't seen on the MTA website. Also it doesn't do much good for me to complain, transit is usually a state-subsidized service so I expect the fare would be higher if it was operating in the free market (unless it was run as a charity or got a heck of a lot of money for advertising on the buses).

I have only been in Manchester twice, during my trip to NH for Porcfest in June. I never rode the bus there, so someone else will have to say whether the service is any good.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on April 14, 2011, 06:42:57 pm
What is the best way to get from Boston to Manchester?

If I fly in to Boston, aside from renting a car, what is the preferred way? Bus? Train? Moonwalk?

Thank you.

It looks like there is a very strong chance that I am headed out for Porcfest this year.

I am still planning on moving out there this year and may just combine the two trips into one. Unsure.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Fishercat on April 14, 2011, 07:56:12 pm
What is the best way to get from Boston to Manchester?

If I fly in to Boston, aside from renting a car, what is the preferred way? Bus? Train? Moonwalk?


http://www.bostonexpressbus.com/
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on April 16, 2011, 10:25:07 pm
I'm back in Washington, myself, but will be returning tomorrow afternoon.  If you want to find an area that reminds you of home, the seacoast is it.  We also get mild weather out there.  I love the area around Hampton Harbor.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 23, 2011, 01:43:17 am
Just an update. I signed the statement of intent. Though I am about 9 or 12 months behind and am hoping to make the next Porcfest. Leaving my home state is more of a project than I realized.

I have a question though. In the attachment what is with the brown area? I suspect it's not military because federal military aren't a strong presence in NH, right? Notice it has right angles so it is likely edited after it comes from the satellite... because of all the various deals google has out their with the govt etc through their earth program certain parts are blurred so to speak. Why?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 23, 2011, 01:52:17 am
Fischer Cat, thanks got the link. That is most likely the route to go.

Max, Amity as in Jaws right? Now that I think about it is that town and Amityville totally different places? I have never been over there and know the two places by popular entertainment with the other movie being Amityville Horror.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: MaineShark on June 23, 2011, 09:12:11 am
I have a question though. In the attachment what is with the brown area? I suspect it's not military because federal military aren't a strong presence in NH, right? Notice it has right angles so it is likely edited after it comes from the satellite... because of all the various deals google has out their with the govt etc through their earth program certain parts are blurred so to speak. Why?

Looks like some of the satellite passes were in summer, and some in fall/winter.

Joe
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 24, 2011, 07:11:14 am
Ahhh. Maybe that is it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: maxxoccupancy on June 28, 2011, 07:57:28 pm
Yeah, if you've seen the first JAWS film, that's pretty much what Seabrook looks like.  On the other hand, uptown Seabrook is a mix of businesses, town homes, mobile home parks, and other developments.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: mdj1 on June 16, 2013, 11:59:14 pm
I had to create a new profile so I could post to this topic. I lost my password and I don't use the email account associated with it anymore.

My girlfriend and I are in central NH having driven from Washington state.

We are staying in tent site 109 (I will have to check on that later)

We will be at Porcfest tomorrow.

I look forward to meeting my new brothers and sisters.

I am behind schedule moving to NH however this is a concrete step in the direction of my goals.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Liberty603 on June 17, 2013, 07:33:12 am
Welcome! Be sure to stop by the FSP Ambassador tent (Agora Valley Site #1, Tues-Sat 10am-5pm) and introduce yourself.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 09, 2015, 01:32:23 am
Anyways we did make it all the way home to WA. Thank you 603 for the invite to the ambassador tent. I don't think we made it there. But we did meet many excellent people at Porcfest X. Sorry for not getting back to these boards sooner. See, I was attempting to get Michelle, my better half, to understand the importance of moving to NH. That took me 3 years! I had to up the level of commitment and convince her that supporting murder .inc is bad etc etc.

So now we are leaving ground0 (Bremerton)  and getting over to NH sometime in early July.

There is an offer on the house as of today. Getting antsy.

It looks like we might end up in the Conway area due to employment.

Does anyone have any keen insight on what it is like in the winter there?

We were thinking maybe Eaton, Madison or Tamworth. Conway is expensive and their zoning laws look a somewhat restrictive. We were looking to rent first.

Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 09, 2015, 01:48:39 am
I wanted to give a shout out to the people I met. I haven't forgotten you guys and gals.

Carla, Louie, Tim, Jeremy, Mr Boise Idaho,
our camping neighbors Dan from NY and the gentleman that has lived in 9 states or something.

also Jamin, and that guy from Enfield, Terrence, all the people that told me about having your own business.

feel free to pm me. all you people are awesome.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 11, 2015, 03:27:12 pm
I guess these forums are dead?
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 12, 2015, 08:01:36 am
Mostly.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: Mdj on June 15, 2015, 11:55:28 am
That sucks.

Anyways we are moving to NH in July.

See you soon.

And thanks Jason for inventing the FSP.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: JasonPSorens on June 16, 2015, 05:09:52 pm
Looking forward to seeing you here! There's a lot going on around the state, but I don't know about the Conway area. You'd be sort of between the Lakes Region Porcupines and North Country Porcupines meetups. If you want to stay on top of the online discussions, unfortunately there seems to be no alternative to joining Facebook these days.
Title: Re: Questions and Salutations from Washington State
Post by: elkingrey on June 28, 2015, 08:04:11 am
Glad to hear you're moving! Safe travels!

Conway is a really nice area of New Hampshire. I think you're going to be very happy. It's surprising to me how few Porcupines have moved there. Yes, there are some, but they are mostly in Tamworth and other surrounding areas. That being said, it's inevitable that Conway will get populated by us eventually.

I live in North Country, and don't make to down to Conway myself very much, but I always love it when I do.

Please keep updates here. Even though this forum doesn't get a lot of posts, there are definitely prospective participants reading.